Apartheid analogy common among Israel's left

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I quoted the official report by the Rapporteur for Israel, as released by the UN.
So, not the UN. Thanks for confessing. Apology accepted.

And no you do not care about the abuse inflicted on Palestinians otherwise you would be upset by the abuse they face in Lebanon.
 

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Yes the UN.
Falk is not the UN and the UN has never agreed with him you lying weasel.

You are lying because you want to pretend that the nations of the world hate Israel and spout this nonsense, but they don't. The United Nations of the world through their assemblies have never called Israel an apartheid nation. Falk does not speak for them and does not represent them.

You recently quoted Kerry and Burman as stating that Israel is not one and doesn't want to be one either.
 

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Falk is not the UN and the UN has never agreed with him you lying weasel. You are lying because you want to pretend that the nations of the world hate Israel and spout this nonsense, but they don't. The United Nations of the world through their assemblies have never called Israel an apartheid nation. Falk does not speak for them and does not represent them. You recently quoted Kerry and Burman as stating that Israel is not one and doesn't want to be one either.
Falk investigates on behalf of the UN, his reports are their findings.

As for Israel's standing in the world you know that they regularly are found to be as favourable as Iran and North Korea.

Kind of like you.
 

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Falk investigates on behalf of the UN, his reports are their findings.
His reports are NOT their findings. Not even close. You cannot just make up ludicrously false claims, this is why nobody here believes anything you post, you are a pathological liar.

As for Israel, Israel has deep and growing trade relations all around the world, it's economy is deeply interconnected and it has numerous allies. It just completed a major arms deal with the Chinese and so it is increasingly connected to both major superpowers.

The pariahs are Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, etc., these terrorist entities are widely sanctioned, their assets seized, shut out of the international banking system, and subject to export bans and other real teeth sanctions.
 

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And here's another fellow who can't bring himself to discuss the persecution of Palestinians in Lebanon, persecution that Israel has nothing whatsoever to do with.
Where would they be if it were not for Israel?:confused:
 

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Where would they be if it were not for Israel?:confused:
What kind of counter-factual is that? Where would they be if the world didn't exist? Where would they be if the sun exploded?

They opted to leave Israel because they refused to live under a Jewish state. That was their own decision, and they are surely owed compensation for property that they forefiet after they left, but Israel is not responsible for the way Lebanon treats them. Lebanon is responsible for the way Lebanon treats them.

What is it that prevents you from speaking honestly about the persecution of the Palestinians by the Arabs? Is that it doesn't allow you to hate Israel to have an honest conversation about it?
 

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His reports are NOT their findings. Not even close. You cannot just make up ludicrously false claims, this is why nobody here believes anything you post, you are a pathological liar. As for Israel, Israel has deep and growing trade relations all around the world, it's economy is deeply interconnected and it has numerous allies. It just completed a major arms deal with the Chinese and so it is increasingly connected to both major superpowers. The pariahs are Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, etc., these terrorist entities are widely sanctioned, their assets seized, shut out of the international banking system, and subject to export bans and other real teeth sanctions.
The UN says Israel is apartheid and you offer that they also sell weapons to the Chinese?

No wonder they poll as favourably as Iran and Hezbollah.

The us state department now recognizes settler attacks as terrorism as well as Israeli price tag attacks.

And all this so you can justify shooting children?

Nice.
 

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The UN says Israel is apartheid
This hate lie isn't going to become true just because you keep repeating it. All that happens is that you cement your well earned reputation as a pathological liar.

Richard Falk is not "the UN" and never will be.
 

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1) The Israeli poll you keep referring to doesn't say what you claim it does. You've been debunked on this repeatedly yet continue ignoring facts.
2) Your quote doesn't actually have Tutu calling Israel an Apartheid state.
3) Why do you refuse to ever criticize Arab states or groups?
 

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This hate lie isn't going to become true just because you keep repeating it. All that happens is that you cement your well earned reputation as a pathological liar.

Richard Falk is not "the UN" and never will be.
He investigates for the UN and writes on his findings.
Would you prefer it to be phrased UN investigations have found Israel to be Apartheid?

That work better for you?


And I note that you are still ignoring the fact that South Africans also think Israel is Apartheid and that Israeli's themselves think they are Apartheid.
 

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He investigates for the UN and writes on his findings.
Which is totally different than saying he is the UN.

The accurate way to describe it is to say "The UNHRC Special Rapporteur for Israel, Richard Falk, has said..."

But you don't want to write that because you KNOW that no one has any respect for UNHRC and even less for Richard Falk. You want to get and give his nonsense more credibility than it has by concealing who really said it and trying to name drop more respected bodies.

Just say Falk wrote it, or UNHRC, and you won't be taken to task fire being dishonest.
 

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Which is totally different than saying he is the UN.

The accurate way to describe it is to say "The UNHRC Special Rapporteur for Israel, Richard Falk, has said..."
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The accurate way is to say the UN investigated and found Israel to be apartheid.
Just as South Africans have and Israeli's have confirmed through polling.
 

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The accurate way is to say the UN investigated and found Israel to be apartheid.
Just as South Africans have and Israeli's have confirmed through polling.
No, because Falk is not the UN. That is like saying that your postman "is Canada" and that if he kicked a dog that "the Government of Canada kicks dogs".

Bullshit.
 

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No, because Falk is not the UN.
He is the Rapporteur on Israel, he represents the UN on the question of Israeli human rights violation.
The UN says Israel is apartheid.

If you have a problem with that statement you should start doing something about Israeli apartheid.
 

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He is the Rapporteur on Israel, he represents the UN on the question of Israeli human rights violation.
He DOES NOT represent the UN. He sends reports TO the UN, and so far the UN has totally ignored him.

You are just blatantly lying now, we have quoted from his mandate and his reports, you know you are wrong and you have decided to lie.
 

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He DOES NOT represent the UN. He sends reports TO the UN, and so far the UN has totally ignored him.

You are just blatantly lying now, we have quoted from his mandate and his reports, you know you are wrong and you have decided to lie.
Blah blah blah.

Take it up with the UN.
And let me know when you get them to change the job description.
Until then you are making stuff up again.

The UN says Israel is Apartheid.
South Africans say Israel is Apartheid.
Israeli's say Israel is Apartheid.

Fuji thinks Lebanon is.
Loser.
 

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Blah blah blah.

Take it up with the UN.
And let me know when you get them to change the job description.
His job description does not say that he represents the UN, idiot.

I have nothing to take up with UN, the UN has never called Israel an apartheid state nor has it ever authorized Richard Falk to speak for it.

My issue is with you and your pathetic, blatant lying.
 

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I have nothing to take up with UN.
Great, so now its confirmed that you are ok with the UN reporting that Israel is apartheid.
Like every single investigation and report on the matter by legit sources, they have also found Israel to be apartheid.

Now that the peace talks are done, you are left backing an apartheid state that has the same world popularity as North Korea and Iran.
Congrats on the weapons sales to China, that ought to really help their moral position.
 

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Great, so now its confirmed that you are ok with the UN reporting that Israel is apartheid.
Do you think if you just keep lying that anyone will respect you?

Falk is not the UN. His mandate does not give him the authority to speak for the UN.

You are a laughable and pathetic clown.
 
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