Apartheid analogy common among Israel's left
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We have proven that the UN says Israel is apartheid.
Any further attempt by you to claim that it doesn't is a lie.
The UN says Israel is apartheid.
Link provided.
http://daccess-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UND...df?OpenElement
You can keep on mouthing the words but at this point you are a ridiculous clown.
Falks mandate does not entitle him to speak for the UN, he is independent. Neither the OHCHR nor the UNGA have ever endorsed his reports.
He is not the UN and there is no reason whatsoever to believe the UN agrees with him.
Israel is not an apartheid state, that is a ludicrous claim made only by ridiculously biased people and not based on fact.
You have been proved to be lying multiple times now on this thread, just go away.
Right, they just kept paying his expenses and publishing his work because they were forced at gun point.
If you want the UN voice for human rights issues on Israel, you read their site and there it is, the reports calling Israel apartheid.
We have proven that the UN says Israel is apartheid.
Any further attempt by you to claim that it doesn't is a lie.
The UN says Israel is apartheid.
Link provided.
http://daccess-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UND...df?OpenElement
South Africa is now starting to boycott Israel.
Sounds like it makes them sick.
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/south-africa-further-limits-ties-israel
You have already been provided with proof that they are required to for all special rapporteurs by their standard operating procedures, which have been explicitly quoted here. They also explicitly and repeatedly state in most official and authoritative terms possible that the special procedures are independent.
You are just doing your clown dance, you have nothing that you can dispute here. Nothing.
What you are proving here is that you will go on lying even when you are shown clear indisputable facts proving your lies are false.
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Independent so they can be impartial.
You seem to have a problem with them being impartial for some reason?
Regardless, Falks reports are still up there on the UN's site for human rights issues on Israel. And as the UN appointed rapporteur on the matter, that's the word.
The UN says Israel is apartheid.
Thanks for keeping this thread alive with your quibbling, lame arguments.
That is the claimed reason, but regardless of why it was done, they are independent: their view is explicitly not the view of the UN, it is an independent view that is different from the UN view.
OHCHR neither endorses nor repudiates the reports by posting them. It posts them in order to make them public in compliance with their operating procedures. Nowhere do they endorse them or say they represent OHCHR's view, on the contrary they say they they are independent.
This has all been proved.
You are just a lying, pathetic clown.
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They are impartial rapporteurs appointed to the UN to report for them and to avoid any claims of UN bias.
Regardless, Falks reports are still up there on the UN's site for human rights issues on Israel. And as the UN appointed rapporteur on the matter, that's the word.
The UN says Israel is apartheid.
Thanks for keeping this thread alive with your quibbling, lame arguments.
Thank you for agreeing that Falk is independent and does not speak on behalf of anyone but himself.
It has been proved to you with detailed references that OHCHR posting them is not an endorsement, and does not mean that the reports are the view of OHCHR.
Just quit your pathetic and stupid lying, he speaks only for himself.
He clearly speaks for the UN, as he was appointed to do.
You have raised only administrative complaints, you haven't found or raise a single fault with his reports.
Clearly even you realize they are accurate.
The UN calls Israel apartheid.
Now you are just repeating thoroughly debunked lies. It was proved to you with reference to his definitive mandate, quotes from his reports, and several definitive statements from OHCHR, that he was NOT appointed to speak for the UN. His mandate does not entitle him to. His reports are explicitly independent.
You are really a pathetic, lying clown.
This is now more about you than about the topic, about how you blatantly disregard proved facts in order to lie and spread hate. You have no credibility at ALL.
That's bullshit and you know it.
And I note that the only criticisms that you have been able to raise are administrative, you haven't found a single fault with his reports.
The claim stands.
All one has to do is go to the UN site that is the voice for human rights issues in Israel to read reports commissioned by the UN, by the UN appointed rapporteur to find out:
The UN says Israel is apartheid.
Keep wishing. I can quote it all in detail for you again. Nothing in his mandate entitles him to speak for the UN, on the contrary I have provided multiple references asserting that he is independent.
I refuted your ludicrous lie he speaks for all the nations in the world. Refuting his ludicrous report itself is easy, it is deeply flawed and entirely biased. But first you should apologize for lying and claiming that his reports are things "the UN" says.
It must really make you mad that your pathetic little game of calling him the UN is finally over.
Well, you are persistent.
But wrong.
I'll repeat, if you want to find the UN position on Israel:
Three easy steps.
Go to the UN site that is the voice of the UN on Israeli/Palestinian human rights issues.
http://www.ohchr.org/EN/countries/ME...s/PSIndex.aspx
Check to see what kind of 'material they have for reference'.
UN GA resolutions and reports from the rapporteur.
Click on the first report listed by the UN appointed person responsible for investigating Israel human rights issues.
Read it, and note that it calls Israel apartheid.
http://daccess-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UND...df?OpenElement
Those reports are still there.
You're still wrong.
That site explicitly states right on it that Falk's reports are independent, not the view of the UN. Are you calling OHCHR liars? As an official voice of the UN they are telling you explicitly that he is independent.
Repeating a thoroughly debunked, blatant lie just makes you a pathetic troll.
You are lying again.
The UN specifically says that rapporteurs are to be independent so as to be unbiased, not that their reports are to be considered independent.
They report according to the UN rules and guidelines on behalf of the UN on human rights issues.
That's why Falk's reports are there on the UN's voice for Israeli human rights issues.
If the reports were independent they wouldn't be written on UN letterhead and posted on the UN site.
The UN says Israel is apartheid.
Oh, another straw man argument, what a surprise.
Nobody said the reports have to 'toe UN policy', that sir, is a bald faced lie.
The UN says Israel is apartheid.
Another straw man argument, what a surprise.
2 for 2.
They are the reports on the state of human rights issues in Israel.
Policy is a different matter entirely.
And the UN has found that Israel is apartheid.
