Anybody Like Classical Music?

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The early 20th Century was a shitty time, Bela Bartok lived through it. Dmitri Shostakovitch had it worse. The Hungarian composer was very inventive, especially when it came to spoofing Shostakovitch's Leningrad Symphony.

I was not well versed enough to get it.

That compelled me to take a dive into Bartok and Shostakovich.

Fascinating. (To me. For most this is TLDR.)

Rivalries like 2Pac vs. The Notorious B.I.G. and Nas vs. Jay Z were not the first to produce beefs and diss tracks. Dmitri Shostakovich vs. Béla Bartók preceded them by 54 years.

Shostakovich balanced artistic innovation with the severe demands of state-imposed Soviet realism.

Incorporated his own musical monogram, the DSCH motif (D - E-flat - C - B), into his scores as a personal signature and all of its implications.

Subversively incorporated Jewish musical idioms in his music as in Piano Trio No. 2

Symphony No. 9 subverted expectations by delivering a short, light, almost comedic piece that deeply angered the regime.

However: “He won five Stalin Prizes, the Order of Lenin, and was named a Hero of Socialist Labor. He hated the ceremonies but used his high-ranking status to secretly secure apartments, pensions, and medical care for struggling friends.”

Bartók invented the scientific field of ethnomusicology. Driven by a desire to find a "pure" Hungarian musical identity free from Western Germanic influences.

He traveled by foot, cart, and train into the most remote villages of the Carpathian Mountains, Slovakia, Romania, and North Africa with heavy, fragile wax-cylinder recording machines. He slowed down the recordings and transcribed the music, capturing every minute detail with mathematical precision.

He used ancient Greek modes, pentatonic scales, is and asymmetric rhythms (like 5/8 or 11/8). Bartók absorbed these raw structures into his own mind, fusing them with modern classical music to create a completely new sonic language.

He is thought to have used the Golden Ratio and Fibonacci numbers to compose his music. Although some argue that it was purely by subconscious intuition because of his deep immersion in the natural patterns of folk music.



Bartók decided to execute a musical assassination in the 4th movement of his Concerto for Orchestra, titled "Intermezzo interrotto" (Interrupted Interlude):

  1. The Serenade: The movement opens with a beautiful, deeply personal, and nostalgic Hungarian melody.
  2. The Intrusion: Suddenly, the music is hijacked. A solo clarinet pipes up, playing a limping, distorted version of Shostakovich’s march theme.
  3. The "Bronx Cheer": Instead of letting the theme build into a terrifying military march, Bartók treats it like a joke. The woodwinds begin to gigglingly mock it, and the bass trombones blast sliding, rude glissandos (the musical equivalent of throwing a raspberry or a "Bronx Cheer") right in the middle of the melody.
  4. The Expulsion: The orchestra crashes in with a chaotic, clattering din, completely shattering the tune. The clumsy march is thrown out, and Bartók's beautiful Hungarian melody returns to finish the movement peacefully.

    Shostakovich reportedly "returned the favor" decades later by grotesquely parodying Béla Bartók's Sonata for Two Pianos and Percussion. He placed this musical retaliation squarely into the second movement of his monumental Symphony No. 13 "Babi Yar" (1962).
    • The Narrative Intent: The poem explains that tsars, kings, and dictators can execute people and control empires, but they can never shackle or kill "Humor." Humor always returns to mock them.
    • The Musical Theft: To illustrate the gritty, untamed nature of comedy, Shostakovich borrows the exact brittle, percussive piano-writing style and angular, snapping themes from Bartók's Sonata for Two Pianos and Percussion.
    • The Subversion: Shostakovich blows Bartók's high-minded, academic chamber textures up into a massive, roaring, and chaotic orchestral caricature. He uses the bass choir, screaming woodwinds, and clattering xylophones to turn Bartók's rhythmic motifs into a wild, vulgar musical circus.

    • This Was the Perfect Response. "Humor" fighting back against those who try to stifle it, Shostakovich achieved a brilliant double-meaning:He acknowledged Bartók's original "joke" (the Concerto for Orchestra parody).He proved that a composer can weaponize humor to outlast critics, dictators, and even rival composers.
 
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Insidious Von

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The late 80's was a great time for super groups. Today's current musicians would genuflect in the presence of The Highwaymen.


Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings, Johnny Cash and Kris Kristofferson.
 

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Some numbnutz called me a fagott. I told him that I don't play the bassoon.

Mozart wrote 7 fagott concertos, what happened to the other six.:confused:

 
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