Anti-Vaxxers Finally Changing People's Attitudes

[Halloween Mike]

How many degrees in immunology do you have Dr.?

Or you can forget the convenient fact that there's a higher risk of myocarditis from covid than there is from the vaccine.

This is like shooting fish in a barrel.

Degrees in looking at what happen elsewhere. Same Covid, way different restrictions, and its not the end of the world.

As for second part, you may never get Covid, or you may get the less dangerous new variant, and another even less dangerous variant may even happen eventually.

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

i see it differently we have almost 90% fully vaccinated and cases have never been higher. So much for protection against getting Covid. I also see many people dieing recently and getting very sick even those with boosters things that make you go hummmm

Here is a great analogy I recently heard. The vast majority of car crashes -- including car crashes where there is a fatality -- are not due to alcohol being a factor. Percentage-wise, there are only a tiny number of car crashes that are attributed to impaired driving.

That said, if you drink 10 pints of beer and then get into a car to go for a drive, the odds that you will be involved in a car crash just increased drastically.

Most people in ICUs with COVID are vaccinated. This is not because vaccines don't work; it's because a whopping 88% of eligible Canadians are now fully vaccinated. But if you're not vaccinated, the odds are greater that if you contract COVID you will end up in an ICU.

 

[Male4Strapon]

Most people in ICUs with COVID are vaccinated. This is not because vaccines don't work; it's because a whopping 88% of eligible Canadians are now fully vaccinated. But if you're not vaccinated, the odds are greater that if you contract COVID you will end up in an ICU.

I am truly astonished that anyone can fail to grasp this. Or maybe they do understand it but are just so desparate to hang onto their argument that they intentionally don't see the forest for the trees.
An analogy I heard that I liked was to view unvaxxed as left handed people and vaccinated as right handed. If you ask antivaxxers would a hospital be more likely to have right handed patients, they would say of course...... after all roughly 87% of the world is right handed. Take any hospital anywhere in the world and right handers will outnumber left.
But if the left handers took up 50% or more of all hospitals rooms and ICU, antivaxxers would tell you there is clearly something wrong with being left handed because those numbers don't make any sense. That is not an anomoly, it is an obvious point of concern.

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

I am truly astonished that anyone can fail to grasp this. Or maybe they do understand it but are just so desparate to hang onto their argument that they intentionally don't see the forest for the trees.
An analogy I heard that I liked was to view unvaxxed as left handed people and vaccinated as right handed. If you ask antivaxxers would a hospital be more likely to have right handed patients, they would say of course...... after all roughly 87% of the world is right handed. Take any hospital anywhere in the world and right handers will outnumber left.
But if the left handers took up 50% or more of all hospitals rooms and ICU, antivaxxers would tell you there is clearly something wrong with being left handed because those numbers don't make any sense. That is not an anomoly, it is an obvious point of concern.

I think the biggest issue is that some people have now embraced the anti-vaccine narrative to the point that it has become an engrained part of their personal identity. The two anti-vaxxers I personally know will not shut up on social media about how 'evil' vaccines are and that mandates are anti-democratic, anti-freedom, etc., and they spend much of their days (presumably because they're not working) preaching the anti-vaccine gospel.

They have spouted this narrative for so long and so hard that they've reached the point of no return. Being an anti-vaxxer is practically central to their identity, and convincing someone to change their identity is not easy.

 

[Leimonis]

I am truly astonished that anyone can fail to grasp this. Or maybe they do understand it but are just so desparate to hang onto their argument that they intentionally don't see the forest for the trees.
An analogy I heard that I liked was to view unvaxxed as left handed people and vaccinated as right handed. If you ask antivaxxers would a hospital be more likely to have right handed patients, they would say of course...... after all roughly 87% of the world is right handed. Take any hospital anywhere in the world and right handers will outnumber left.
But if the left handers took up 50% or more of all hospitals rooms and ICU, antivaxxers would tell you there is clearly something wrong with being left handed because those numbers don't make any sense. That is not an anomoly, it is an obvious point of concern.

If these people knew math on the four grade level maybe they would not be disenfranchised losers in the first place.

 

[Leimonis]

usually those who are quick to judge others knowledge do not possess much of their own and are themselves "disenfranchised losers"

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

The attitude of people is reflected in the relaxing or scrapping of covid restrictions in nations across the globe.

 

[ottawa_cuck]

A lot more people would get the vaccine if you told them covid isn’t natural, it is manmade and oops it leaked, 2 years into it and we’re trying to figure it out, sorry our bad. Vaccines lower the death probability. That’s all it does at the moment. Natural immunity isn’t going to save you because this thing isn’t natural, and you can get it again and again and again. And it’s mutating like fuck in dirty third world countries so I dunno if we’re ever going to succeed but for now, vaccines lower death probability. Our bad.

 

[fictionfactor]

I am truly astonished that anyone can fail to grasp this. Or maybe they do understand it but are just so desparate to hang onto their argument that they intentionally don't see the forest for the trees.
An analogy I heard that I liked was to view unvaxxed as left handed people and vaccinated as right handed. If you ask antivaxxers would a hospital be more likely to have right handed patients, they would say of course...... after all roughly 87% of the world is right handed. Take any hospital anywhere in the world and right handers will outnumber left.
But if the left handers took up 50% or more of all hospitals rooms and ICU, antivaxxers would tell you there is clearly something wrong with being left handed because those numbers don't make any sense. That is not an anomoly, it is an obvious point of concern.

great analogy makes perfect sense to me now . So if that is the case why do we still have restrictions ? Or vaccine passports?

 

[Jenesis]

Most people in ICUs with COVID are vaccinated. This is not because vaccines don't work; it's because a whopping 88% of eligible Canadians are now fully vaccinated. But if you're not vaccinated, the odds are greater that if you contract COVID you will end up in an ICU.

And when unvaxxed take up more then 12% of the hospital resources, that shows the disproportion and why vaccines are so important. People don’t seem to get that.

 

[Male4Strapon]

great analogy makes perfect sense to me now . So if that is the case why do we still have restrictions ? Or vaccine passports?

Because unvaxxed make up an extremely disproportionate amount of hospitalizations and ICUs, so restrictions, passports and mandates are necessary to get the holdouts to be vaccinated.
Logic and reason hasn't been enough to sway them so they have to dangle a carrot in front of them.

 

[Captain Bly]

Do they acknowledge the risk to others or of extending the pandemic and the restrictive measures that come along with that?

Very good point and the answer is a clear no, the selfish are always amongst us.