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an·ti-Sem·i·tism (ān'tē-sěm'ĭ-tĭz'əm, ān'tī-)
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1.

Hostility toward or prejudice against Jews or Judaism.
2.

Discrimination against Jews.
 

papasmerf

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there are many members here who personify it.

Check recent posts in the political section and sort it out.
 

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an·ti-Sem·i·tism (ān'tē-sěm'ĭ-tĭz'əm, ān'tī-)
n.

1.

Hostility toward or prejudice against Jews or Judaism.
2.

Discrimination against Jews.
Actually "Semites" include the non Jews of the Arab World.

For example, Syrians are also Semites. As are Lebanese. Even Saudis are Semites. Simply making it refer to Jews is an incorrect use of the word.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic
 

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Being against an Israeli policy isn't antisemitism, even if it's the first accusation that always comes out.

There aren't many on here who hate the Jewish people.
 

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Being against an Israeli policy isn't antisemitism, even if it's the first accusation that always comes out.

There aren't many on here who hate the Jewish people.

So being against Israel and wishing its destruction is not the same as wanting to destroy the Jewish people?
You would support abolishing all islamic states?
 

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Actually "Semites" include the non Jews of the Arab World.

For example, Syrians are also Semites. As are Lebanese. Even Saudis are Semites. Simply making it refer to Jews is an incorrect use of the word.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic
Maybe you should have read the whole article you cited:

"The term "anti-Semitic" (or "anti-Semite") overwhelmingly refers to Jews only. It was coined in 1879 by German journalist Wilhelm Marr in a pamphlet called, "The Victory of Germandom over Jewry". Using ideas of race and nationalism, Marr argued that Jews had become the first major power in the West. He accused them of being liberals, a people without roots who had Judaized Germans beyond salvation. In 1879 Marr founded the "League for Anti-Semitism"."

And since we're using wikipedia as a reputable source:

"Despite the use of the prefix "anti," the terms Semitic and anti-Semitic are not directly opposed to each other. Antisemitism refers specifically to prejudice against Jews alone and in general,[3][4][23] despite the fact that there are other speakers of Semitic languages (e.g. Arabs, Ethiopians, or Assyrians) and that not all Jews speak a Semitic language.

The term "anti-Semitic" has been used on occasion to include bigotry against other Semitic-language peoples such as Arabs, but such usage is not widely accepted."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism
 

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So being against Israel and wishing its destruction is not the same as wanting to destroy the Jewish people?
You would support abolishing all islamic states?
That's correct, being against an Israeli policy isn't the same as wishing its destruction or hating Jewish people.
 

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That's correct, being against an Israeli policy isn't the same as wishing its destruction or hating Jewish people.


But that is not what I said

are you for the destruction of Israel?
 

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But that is not what I said

are you for the destruction of Israel?
You didn't ask earlier if I was for the destruction of Israel. The existence of Israel isn't wrong, many of the current policies are. Many Jews believe the same thing.
 

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You didn't ask earlier if I was for the destruction of Israel. The existence of Israel isn't wrong, many of the current policies are. Many Jews believe the same thing.
Would you agree that those who wish to wipe Israel from this earth may hate Jews?
 

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Yes, but it's still not antisemitic to hate Israel's policies which is the link you want to make.
Not at all
You can support a country and not be 100% behind all policies.

I am sure you do not support all of Canada's policies yet you support the the Country.
 

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You will smear anyone being against any Israeli policies as antisemitic, so it doesn't really matter.
I agree with Jimmy Carter's views.
 

papasmerf

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You will smear anyone being against any Israeli policies as antisemitic, so it doesn't really matter.
Not at all

I do believe you have the right to speak your mind and that includes disagreeing with me or anyone else.

There are things in theocratic governments I am vocally against.

Myself being an American I would like to see free elections in every country in the world as well every mans right to hold property and citizenship.
All rights of citizenship be granted to all citizens.

I hope that clarifies my position.
 

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then do you agree with Israel destroying Palestinian houses to put up their own settlements?
I agree with peaceful coexistence. A challenge for both sides.
 

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I'll try to give my perspective. I'm Jewish and:

- I'm obviously not anti-semetic, if we agree that means that term refers to one who hates Jews

- I'm am STRONGLY in favour of the concept of an Israeli State, or a Jewish Homeland, if you will.

- I'm not necessarily in full agreement with some of Israel's actions/stances in regards to its presence in the Middle East, but this does not mean I want Israel or the Jews "destroyed" or "wiped-off the face of the Earth"
spoken as a man who understands freedom and tolerance.
 
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