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Alan Dershowitz claims abuse of power isn’t an impeachable offense

Butler1000

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This is a repeat of Butler's performance re HRC. He will tell us over and over again that he does not support Trump. He will then go ballistic on any but the most left wing Dem candidate, accuse them of all sorts of knavery and then tell us he has to support Trump because his favourite far left candidate has been eliminated by unfair practices.

Remember how obsessed he was with how corrupt and evil HRC was until just a few months ago.

He will then aggressively support Trump until the next election cycle. And then he will repeat.

With Butler, there is far less logic than just his own strange personality quirks. He's basically a hardcore Trump supporter who can't admit it.
So you prefer candidates who want to continue the overseas wars, prevent a single payer medical system, perpetuate a racist justice system, perpetuate an economic class system that politically favors wealthy people.

Versus me wanting to see poor people and sick people have a better life. Oh and less war.

But I have strange notions?

This is the Neo Con/Liberal agenda in a nutshell.
 

Butler1000

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Already a spat with Iran resulting in the killings of so many Canadian citizens. Then you say that Trump is not the immediate problem??

No Biden does not want to cut Social Security. Do not know where you get that from??

The Burisma job had nothing to do with nepotism as Biden did not intervene to get him that job.

Trump's own deceased brother was an alcoholic and a drunkard. At least Hunter Biden was a lawyer and he was on the Board of companies before Biden was the VP. Again when Trump nominates his useless son-in-law and daughter to be a part of the Whitehouse, then that is nepotism to the highest degree. Zero experience and credentials for those posts. Then Ivanka's own clothing business outlets goes bankrupt, but yet she gets 16 trademarks from China after she has dinner with the President. Again you refuse to call out Trump but all these corrupt practises, and he is the one who has been impeached...... not Biden!!

Clinton and Biden have not been charged for anything in spite of Trump's promises to even get an attorney just to investigate the Clinton's. Yet, a nothing burger there. However, Mueller did not exonerate Trump. All this corrupt President did was to get an AG to cover it up. But keep on believing the BS like you did about the "Billions" that Hunter Biden was involved in!!
Go to YouTube. You will find lots of great video if him on the Senate floor and in Interviews stating it's on the table for cuts. As recently as 2015. Same with Medicare/Medicaid.

Go ahead. Pick your source. Google it.
 

Frankfooter

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So you prefer candidates who want to continue the overseas wars, prevent a single payer medical system, perpetuate a racist justice system, perpetuate an economic class system that politically favors wealthy people.

Versus me wanting to see poor people and sick people have a better life. Oh and less war.
You just described Trump, the racist, entitled, rapey guy you've been backing here against Clinton for years.

You are such a hypocrite.
 

mandrill

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So you prefer candidates who want to continue the overseas wars, prevent a single payer medical system, perpetuate a racist justice system, perpetuate an economic class system that politically favors wealthy people.

Versus me wanting to see poor people and sick people have a better life. Oh and less war.

But I have strange notions?

This is the Neo Con/Liberal agenda in a nutshell.
And this is why you always end up defending Trump.....

You see, you're doing exactly what you always do. You've picked the furthest left Dem candidate and you're now villainizing all the moderates. Exactly what you did for years w HRC. You'll use this as an excuse to hate on Buttigieg and Biden. You'll cheerlead for Bernie. And when Bernie doesn't get the nomination, you'll cheerlead for Trump.

And to frame your position, you'll post platitudes about "a racist justice system" that everyone would probably agree on. But in your mind, the only heroes who can deal with this are either the furthest left Dem candidate you can find...... or Trump. And then you'll whip out your trendy buzzwords like "Neocon / Liberal agenda". Just to really punch your point home.

I'm right, aren't I?
 

mandrill

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Laurence Tribe
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From @AlanDersh
’s 2018 book: “Assume Putin decides to ‘retake’ Alaska, the way he ‘retook’ Crimea. Assume further that [President Trump] allows him to do it ... That would be terrible, but [not] impeachable.” That’s really Trump’s legal position??????!!!@lisamurkowski take note!


https://twitter.com/tribelaw/status/1218577907737669634

If Dersh actually wrote this horseshit, I can only hope that Trump and the GOP's are paying him up in the mid 7's for his "legal representation". This is pretty much career ending in serious legal circles.
 

Knuckle Ball

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Laurence Tribe
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From @AlanDersh
’s 2018 book: “Assume Putin decides to ‘retake’ Alaska, the way he ‘retook’ Crimea. Assume further that [President Trump] allows him to do it ... That would be terrible, but [not] impeachable.” That’s really Trump’s legal position??????!!!@lisamurkowski take note!


https://twitter.com/tribelaw/status/1218577907737669634

If Dersh actually wrote this horseshit, I can only hope that Trump and the GOP's are paying him up in the mid 7's for his "legal representation". This is pretty much career ending in serious legal circles.
Dersh is a weird dude- he has pics of OJ and Klaus von Bulow hanging in his bathroom.
 

Frankfooter

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Laurence Tribe
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From @AlanDersh
’s 2018 book: “Assume Putin decides to ‘retake’ Alaska, the way he ‘retook’ Crimea. Assume further that [President Trump] allows him to do it ... That would be terrible, but [not] impeachable.” That’s really Trump’s legal position??????!!!@lisamurkowski take note!


https://twitter.com/tribelaw/status/1218577907737669634

If Dersh actually wrote this horseshit, I can only hope that Trump and the GOP's are paying him up in the mid 7's for his "legal representation". This is pretty much career ending in serious legal circles.
Its to the point where most of Trump's lawyers should be witnesses as well.
What did Sekulow agree to with Parnas?
What did Giuliani do and with whom in Ukraine, and who is financing him from there?
Ask Dersh about these ideas of impeachment to get them on record.
Ask Starr if he holds the same views he did during the Clinton impeachment.

They might as well bring in Cohen for fun as well.
 

Butler1000

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You just described Trump, the racist, entitled, rapey guy you've been backing here against Clinton for years.

You are such a hypocrite.
I also described Biden, the guy you think would be a good replacement.
 

Butler1000

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And this is why you always end up defending Trump.....

You see, you're doing exactly what you always do. You've picked the furthest left Dem candidate and you're now villainizing all the moderates. Exactly what you did for years w HRC. You'll use this as an excuse to hate on Buttigieg and Biden. You'll cheerlead for Bernie. And when Bernie doesn't get the nomination, you'll cheerlead for Trump.

And to frame your position, you'll post platitudes about "a racist justice system" that everyone would probably agree on. But in your mind, the only heroes who can deal with this are either the furthest left Dem candidate you can find...... or Trump. And then you'll whip out your trendy buzzwords like "Neocon / Liberal agenda". Just to really punch your point home.

I'm right, aren't I?
They aren't "moderates". They are right wing, warmongers and Wall st toadies.

Considering Biden crested the Crime Bill that perpetuated the racist justice system and made it worse I can frame him as a bad candidate.

I actually think Bernie us far more centrist within the context of how the rest of the civilized world thinks.

What's wrong with a universal healthcare system? A decent minimum wage? Less wars?

Are you against these things?

HRC also represented the M I/C to a T. She led the destruction of Libya. And laughed about it. Now they have slave markets.

Why the hell would you call that normal?
 

bver_hunter

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Go to YouTube. You will find lots of great video if him on the Senate floor and in Interviews stating it's on the table for cuts. As recently as 2015. Same with Medicare/Medicaid.

Go ahead. Pick your source. Google it.
Go on his actual platform and take a look. Once again just stop following numerous online Youtube Conspiracy websites. Pick some credible sources for a change!!
 

derrick76

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So what you are saying is......

Biden is as nepotistic as Trump.

Don't you get it? The fact he has to continue to defend himself and his son is what's makes him a liability and bad candidate. Trump will use this.

The basis for Biden's campaign is he is going on character.

I will say it again. When the basis of your campaign is"my corruption isn't as bad as his" you have lost the conversation.
Dude, people getting jobs because of who they know (or knows them) as well as who they are related is NOT a new phenomenon. It's as common the air we breathe.
 

Knuckle Ball

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I also described Biden, the guy you think would be a good replacement.
So you’re comparing Biden’s behaviour to Trump’s and suggesting there is an equivalency. This is why no one takes you seriously.
 

Butler1000

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So you’re comparing Biden’s behaviour to Trump’s and suggesting there is an equivalency. This is why no one takes you seriously.
Would you say the Iraq war, the Crime Bill, The Bankruptcy Bill, the Approval of opiods for mass use are good things?

How about he voted for all the immigration laws now being used by Trump.

How about he still thinks Marijuana is a gateway drug that should remain illegal for now. And all the charges as well( btw one of his big donor bundlers is in the private prison business....hmmm).

Trump is an ass. Shouldn't be President.

Neither should Biden.

Behavior is only one measure. How about policy, history be used as well.
 

danmand

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Having seen Alan on TV a few times, It appears that he does not think any offence is impeachable, i.e. the President can do whatever he wants to do.
 

Frankfooter

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Having seen Alan on TV a few times, It appears that he does not think any offence is impeachable, i.e. the President can do whatever he wants to do.
That's pretty much their only defence at this point.
Its either
a) he's a king and above all laws
b) it wasn't really a crime because....
 

shack

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That's pretty much their only defence at this point.
Its either
a) he's a king and above all laws
b) it wasn't really a crime because....
or they can't charge him because the process was unfair

or...but what about Hillary?
 

jcpro

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or they can't charge him because the process was unfair

or...but what about Hillary?
Or he's making a Constitutional argument beyond the "orange man bad".
 

mandrill

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Or he's making a Constitutional argument beyond the "orange man bad".
Doesn't the wiki article make out how bogus Dersh's argument actually is though?
 
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