Ah, those Sens!!

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Emery has little to do with what's wrong in Ottawa... it's just a distractor to the real problem... Wade Redden.
:confused: Sorry, I don't understand, help me out with this...
 

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Living in the Ottawa area, you hear a lot of rumours about Wade Redden. That doesn't mean that they're all true.
 

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my source is a Pittsburgh scout... it's all true, IMO.
 

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Unfortunately the rumours about Redden are true. I was told about this around 3 years ago by someone who witnessed the indulgence if you will. Same with Emery. Seems he likes to party at Hess village in hamilton where he's not to discreet when he should be.

What really bothers me is that Redden and to a lesser extent Emery are really talented players. Their just throwing it all away. Anyways we will just have to wait and see how many teams will be interested in their services.
 

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my wonder is how did they fool the nhl drug testings performed earlier this year? cocaine stays in the system for quite some time and is fairly easy to pick up in tests... and i'd think especially so with the rate they were going through it...

my buddy showed me pics on facebook with Redden and what looked like Rob Ramage at a kitchen table with a salad bowl full of cocaine at some party!

that's not the worse of the pics i've seen though, i got Malkin and Jordan Staal both on 1 girl... now, if that one ever got out...
 

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Like I said before, it was a very bad move keeping Redden over Chara. I don't care about the rumours as long as he brings his game onto the ice.

Is is a shame about Redden if the rumours are true because he is a very good player.
 

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my wonder is how did they fool the nhl drug testings performed earlier this year? cocaine stays in the system for quite some time and is fairly easy to pick up in tests... and i'd think especially so with the rate they were going through it...

my buddy showed me pics on facebook with Redden and what looked like Rob Ramage at a kitchen table with a salad bowl full of cocaine at some party!

that's not the worse of the pics i've seen though, i got Malkin and Jordan Staal both on 1 girl... now, if that one ever got out...
Hey at least it was a girl...or was the girl CINDY...:eek: Sorry 21PRO I couldn't resist.
 

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Drugs aside... I blame the head coach for this one...and then Emory for not handling it well. Reminded me of ROBERT ESCHE in PHILLY.

You have a goalie who takes you to the Stanley Cup Finals getting hurt in preseason and you pick up another goalie... the team starts out 15-2 when your starting goalie comes back from injury and you tell him he has to WIN his job back. THIS is a recipe for disaster. It devides the "room".

I've never felt a starting player should lose his job because of an injury, especially this early in the season...it creates bad blood...so the coach takes the hit here...with that said, Emory certainly could have taken the high road (no pun intended) and worked hard for the good of the team.

Marty Biron did that in Philly... Robert ESCHE sulked and caused problems. Some players are TEAM guys and some only care about themselves.

Emory will be gone, so will Redden...

I do not think GERBER is a CUP caliber GOALIE and neither did CAROLINA as they pulled him and put WARD in when they one their cup.
 

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my buddy showed me pics on facebook with Redden and what looked like Rob Ramage at a kitchen table with a salad bowl full of cocaine at some party!

that's not the worse of the pics i've seen though, i got Malkin and Jordan Staal both on 1 girl... now, if that one ever got out...
maybe it was flour & they were going to bake a cake ?

Seems Penguin players carrying on tradition of orgies. Was Mario watching ? ;) Where's Dan Quinn to take the fall
 

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so it's better to get those 2 extra gates and humiliate yourself?
um...

no thanks.

i think i'd rather accept we didn't make it and use it as a catalyst for changes...
That's because your a loser amd have the Maple Leaf losing mentality,
 

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Given that the SENS were tied in two of the games at the end of two periods and down 1 in another... I don't think that they were all that lame... They were only dowm 2 in the first game.

If you consider the fact that Alfredsen, Fisher, and Kelly were out for the first two games, and Alfredsen played the last two at about 60% I'd say they were pretty competitive...especially given the discrepancy in penalties.

Certainly nothing to be ashamed off IMO.
 

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Certainly nothing to be ashamed off IMO.
A sweep is pretty embarrassing.
 

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A sweep is pretty embarrassing.

NOT as embarrassing as not making it all...Did all those LEAFS that refused to wave their NO TRADE CLAUSES help the leafs future?

Do you think the leafs FUTURE will be more embarrising because of THAT?

I certainly do!!! They ended up getting nothing for players that won't be in Toronto next season. NOW THAT is embarrising!!!
 

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Drugs or Injuries?

I'm not all that sure about the drug issue...but I know that it is tough to win in the playoffs when you are missing your top player (Alfredsen), your second (Fisher) and third line (Kelly) centers all of whom play an integral part on your PK and PP units.

For starters it leaves you with 1 line to defend against and having watched the FLYERS try to win with just one line during LINDROS prime I can attest that it doesn't work.

The reality is that OTTAWA while getting swept kept the games close into the third period. They were tied in two ofthe games, down 1 in one game, and down two in game 1. They gave the PENGUINS far too many power play opportunities and while GERBER made some great saves in games, he also let in some very soft goals in others. SOFT goals will suck the life out of a team.
 

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jackd1959 said:
The reality is that OTTAWA while getting swept kept the games close into the third period.
this is something that Tampa Bay and Los Angeles were accused of this year. you'll see the best teams, year after year, are the ones that have the best wins after trailing 2 periods.

this year it's Dallas, Pittsburgh, San Jose and then Detroit.
 

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this is something that Tampa Bay and Los Angeles were accused of this year. you'll see the best teams, year after year, are the ones that have the best wins after trailing 2 periods.
I'm not sure I agree much with that stat...as it is a long season with a lot of ebb and flow...and some very good teams just don't trail in the third period very often, which if why I don't really like that stat. I prefer the stat of teams not giving up the lead when entering the third period with it myself...

My only point with Ottawa was given the circumstances I thought they fought pretty hard...certainly not ALL of them, but I watched an injured FLYER team struggle to 10 straight loses becasue they were missing a large contigent of their team (not just one or two guys).

I've seen too many times that the teams entering the playoffs healthy have a distinct advantage over the teams entering banged up.

With that said...Knuble is now day-to-day and GAGNE has been skating symptom free on his own for a few weeks now. :)
 
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