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Aardvark154

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The fact that Turks were racist where you grew up does not mean the Muslim behind the counter in Toronto is.
Perhaps not if the person behind the counter is acculturated into Western Society. Otherwise all I can say is like lambs to the slaughter - and all for the sake of not being “prejudiced.”
 

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My belief is that given the chance they will act in the same way. The only way to find that out is to be the part of a minority non-muslim group in a muslim country. How many people here have? and of those, how many can disagree with me?
You are absolutely right! I can't believe how all these goody goodies on this board say "Oh no its not the religion, Islam is a religion of peace."
Islam is a religion of hate. Hate those who are not muslim, hate those muslims who are not the same sect. It is a twisted, perverted religion. In the next few years Canada will experience some of the Muslim atrocities that the US, Great Britain and Spain have experienced. It is inevitable.
 

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The three abrahamic religions are all the same. Islam is not a religion of hate any more than Christianity is, however because the religions are so primitive they can justify horrible acts of violence.

The religion that has probably committed the most crimes against humanity is Christianity. Islam has also created many crimes, but Christianity with the inquisitions, crusades, centuries of sponsoring slavery.. outweighs Islam.

Canada will only experience the same attrocities the US, Britain and Spain endured if follow their lead on foreign policy. US was attacked on 9/11 because of their military bases in Saudi Arabia, not to mention their sponsorship of the Saudi dictator, Saddam Hussein, and so on. Britain and Spain were attacked for their involvement in the Iraq war. It's called blowback. The terrorist attacks were provoked.
 

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kl33n said:
The religion that has probably committed the most crimes against humanity is Christianity. Islam has also created many crimes, but Christianity with the inquisitions, crusades, centuries of sponsoring slavery.. outweighs Islam.
A lot of muslims try to make this argument. The inquisition, crusades, slavery were products of their uncivilized times, and hundreds of years ago,
Islam has always been involved in slavery, and still is today. It is one truly fucked up religion. An uncivilized religion in civilized times.
 

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I simply brought up slavery because it's something that neither of the 3 abrahamic religions condemn. A slave-owner can quite easily find passages in the bible that justify his actions. The same can obviously be said with Islam and the Quran. The abolishment of slavery in western culture happened in SPITE of religion, not because of it. If fact, someone of Christian faith would have a very difficult time trying to justify an anti-slavery position using the bible.

There are horrific things in the bible as there are in the quran. Both books are from a very primitive time. I would be surprised if you thought Islam was uncivilized but Christianity somehow wasn't. Did Christians come out with a new version of the bible that omits all of the heinous crimes committed in it? No. What happened was that the western societies secularized and moved away from religious fundamentalism. There are still some Christian fundamentalists in western society; Bush may be one and he's initiated a war that has brought deaths to hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians. Let us not forget Hitler and Mussolini using the catholic church as their tool for mass control.

So it's not Islam that's in itself evil... it is a very primitive religion, but so is Christianity and Judaism, and you can use it to justify good as much as evil. It's the religious zealots that are evil. Those that believe they must start a war because their God told them too, like Bush and Osama.

If you ask me, religion is a racket.
 

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Sargeant StiffCock said:
Brownie69, you don't want to know what I think about that ;)

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Show me a muslim country that would give a fraction of the rights to a christian immigrant in their country that canada gives them and i'll shut up. I am sick and tired of hearing politically correct answers and comments here. If you haven't lived it you don't know shit.

I HAVE lived it.
This is one example a muslim country (interestingly it's Turkey) allowing this;

...The restrictions on admission into Turkey were removed through the visa regime introduced on Jan. 10, 2002 and 100,000 illegal Armenian workers from Armenia have been allowed to come and stay in Turkey...

Would Canada ever let 100,000 of undocumented immigrants (not necessarily muslims) to come here and steal their citizens jobs.

Now, brokencock , will you shut up for good or you need more?
 

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kl33n said:
The religion that has probably committed the most crimes against humanity is Christianity. Islam has also created many crimes, but Christianity with the inquisitions, crusades, centuries of sponsoring slavery.. outweighs Islam.

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Just wondering... when was the last time a Bomb went of on a train, or subway or world trade center, or a hi-jacked plane hit a building in the name of , or for the glory of... Jesus ..
or throwing someone in Jail and screaming for their death , because they named a teddy bear "jesus"

And if that did happen... no one would be saying oh... its not all the Christians ... can't we just be tolerant ?
 

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Neverenuff$ said:
And if that did happen... no one would be saying oh... its not all the Christians ... can't we just be tolerant ?
Bull....... Thats just your opinion....
 
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andymandy said:
This is one example a muslim country (interestingly it's Turkey) allowing this;

...The restrictions on admission into Turkey were removed through the visa regime introduced on Jan. 10, 2002 and 100,000 illegal Armenian workers from Armenia have been allowed to come and stay in Turkey...

Would Canada ever let 100,000 of undocumented immigrants (not necessarily muslims) to come here and steal their citizens jobs.

Now, brokencock , will you shut up for good or you need more?
You have to be really stupid not to be able to see right through this. They would only do this to look all goody goody to the EU that they have been desperately trying to become a member of. What the fuck are you talking about??? They are the ones denying the genocide which is totally obsurd. You think they are going to HAPPILY let 100,000 Armenians into the country? Don't be such an idiot and understand that this is nothing but politics.

Besides what are they giving up? The economy in Turkey is sucks, overpopulated, there is no work for their own people. What's another 100,000 people in the country if such a move is going to (hopefully) show EU that we are caring people. It's almost like a 3rd world country opening their doors, no one wants to go there.

Just curious, what is the source of that article anyways?
 

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skypilot said:
You are absolutely right! I can't believe how all these goody goodies on this board say "Oh no its not the religion, Islam is a religion of peace."
Islam is a religion of hate. Hate those who are not muslim, hate those muslims who are not the same sect. It is a twisted, perverted religion. In the next few years Canada will experience some of the Muslim atrocities that the US, Great Britain and Spain have experienced. It is inevitable.


And I guess you are going to point out that Christians are the most loving and tolerant people in the world? After all, this thread is a wonderful example of Christian love.
 

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kl33n said:
Canada will only experience the same attrocities the US, Britain and Spain endured if follow their lead on foreign policy. US was attacked on 9/11 because of their military bases in Saudi Arabia, not to mention their sponsorship of the Saudi dictator, Saddam Hussein, and so on. Britain and Spain were attacked for their involvement in the Iraq war. It's called blowback. The terrorist attacks were provoked.
Thank you, I'm surprised people forget that all the violence stems from anger in the Muslim world..... Its a number of things, the way the European countries dealt with the Middle East post WWII, the problems with Isreal and Palestine and the way the US has conducted their foreign policy. The resentment coupled with the lack of leadership in the Middle East has produced the breeding ground for terrorism to spread.

The Arab people have are bitter....
 

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Neverenuff$ said:
Just wondering... when was the last time a Bomb went of on a train, or subway or world trade center, or a hi-jacked plane hit a building in the name of , or for the glory of... Jesus ..
or throwing someone in Jail and screaming for their death , because they named a teddy bear "jesus"

And if that did happen... no one would be saying oh... its not all the Christians ... can't we just be tolerant ?

A bomb going off, like in Waco Texas or the Oklahoma bomber?
 

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And I guess you are going to point out that Christians are the most loving and tolerant people in the world? After all, this thread is a wonderful example of Christian love.
I don't give a damn about christians. If they were murdering people today like the Muslims then I'd be saying the same about them. I have a problem with those who defend Islam by saying "Oh look at all the bad stuff christians are doing." and then say Islam is the religion of peace.
Pretty much every religion is fucked up, but today I think that Islam is the most fucked up one of all of them. It seems to use sex as one of its control tools. There was a book out by a Saudi woman about living in a Muslim country. One of the things she talked about was how it was ok if a male baby were crying it was ok to comfort it by the mothor or an Aunt playing with or sucking the baby's penis. Then when the kid grows up he can't even see or think about women, but he can have sex with animals (OK'd in writing by the Ayatolla Khomeni) or have homosexual sex with one of the religious leaders. (I guess its not homosexual if you have it with a Mullah - almost like the catholic church.) Then the only hope of these poor kids for getting laid is blowing themselves up so they can get their 70 virgins.
 
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Its quite simple. They come here to rape the country of the resources their own country can't give them. They can profit here and pretty much live by the same rules they do at home without consequences and here they actually have equal rights. If we did the same in their country we would be shot or hung in the streets.
 

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skypilot said:
I don't give a damn about christians. If they were murdering people today like the Muslims then I'd be saying the same about them. I have a problem with those who defend Islam by saying "Oh look at all the bad stuff christians are doing." and then say Islam is the religion of peace.
Pretty much every religion is fucked up, but today I think that Islam is the most fucked up one of all of them. It seems to use sex as one of its control tools. There was a book out by a Saudi woman about living in a Muslim country. One of the things she talked about was how it was ok if a male baby were crying it was ok to comfort it by the mothor or an Aunt playing with or sucking the baby's penis. Then when the kid grows up he can't even see or think about women, but he can have sex with animals (OK'd in writing by the Ayatolla Khomeni) or have homosexual sex with one of the religious leaders. (I guess its not homosexual if you have it with a Mullah - almost like the catholic church.) Then the only hope of these poor kids for getting laid is blowing themselves up so they can get their 70 virgins.
Two things here. First, most of the posters here have been saying that not all Muslims are bad and they are using the examples of Christians doing wrong deeds as a way of illustrating that there are people in other religions that have done bad things, but we don't consider all of the people affiliated with those religions to be bad or evil.

Secondly, show me in the religious texts of Islam where homosexuality in any form, sexual acts with animals or masterbation is permitted..... Just because Ayatolla Khomeni, for example, said or wrote something doesn't mean that it is in keeping with the religious doctrine of Islam. Being an Arab doesn't mean that everything an Arab does is in accordance to Islam.... Stop mixing cultural acts with religious ones.
 

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Count Of Montecristo said:
Its quite simple. They come here to rape the country of the resources their own country can't give them. They can profit here and pretty much live by the same rules they do at home without consequences and here they actually have equal rights. If we did the same in their country we would be shot or hung in the streets.
So everyone Arab that comes to this country is trying to rape our country then... None of them actually wants to get away from Middle Eastern countries.... What a narrow minded view.....
 

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Compromised said:
A bomb going off, like in Waco Texas or the Oklahoma bomber?
Timothy McVeigh etc al certainly didn't commit the Oklahoma City bombings in the name of Christianity. In an interview with Time Mcveigh said that after his teens he had "sort of lost touch with" Christianity and had "never really picked it [back] up." While The Guardian reported that McVeigh claimed he was an agnostic. As to David Koresh, certainly he was a religious zealot, (Branch Davidians certainly aren't mainstream Christians - although that is irrelevant to the larger point), however they never went out and attacked non-group members.
 

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A bomb going off, like in Waco Texas or the Oklahoma bomber?

In Wacko .. whats his name wanted a sign from god.. he got it,, those people killed themselves in the Name of God .. ...Not other unwilling participants

In Texas.. McVie was motovated by attacking the Government .. I don't think he was yelling long live Jesus when he was buggering off !!

No one asked for tolerence for McVie.. and where is he now ?


The christian communities around the world were not out celebrating the victory for Jesus after Oklahoma either ...


Don't think those really compare to the religious victory for Allah celebrated after 911



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Brownie69 said:
So everyone Arab that comes to this country is trying to rape our country then... None of them actually wants to get away from Middle Eastern countries.... What a narrow minded view.....
Of course they want to get away from their countries, who wouldn't? I think all Islamics and every arab should be prohibited form even coming to this country to visit let alone live. Those already here should be deported.
 
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