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I have to agree with some of the previous posts it seems the majority of Americans who voted for Bush were more concerned with gay marriages, abortion, etc, - social issues.

What about the huge decifit ? Bush already conceded there will be at least 4 more years of that. What about Iraq ?? There is simply no plan on when the US will or more to the point can pull out of that country. Meanwhile the US dollar continue to drop like a rock, the old age security system is in trouble based on the baby boomers coming up for future retirement.

It should be interesting what kind of country GWB will leave in 4 years - oh well at least gays can't get married !!

p.s. why shouldn't gays get married - let them suffer like the rest of us !
 

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Drunken Master said:


Anyway, I'm sorry to interrup your thread-length gloat, OTB. I'm just one of Fukyama's bitter "Last Men" unable to accept the glorious American Jerusalem. Your side has sowed the wind, and the election now gives you all rights to reap the....well, you know the rest.
From the Al Gore school of accepting loss! LOL

Like I would not have been inundated by gloating Canadians if Kerry had won, I don't think I've done much dancing on the grave but I could if you like.........

As for rights to reap, Bush talked today about making the reforming of Social Security a priority now - that didn't take long.

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stainless said:
I have to agree with some of the previous posts it seems the majority of Americans who voted for Bush were more concerned with gay marriages, abortion, etc, - social issues.

What about the huge decifit ? Bush already conceded there will be at least 4 more years of that. What about Iraq ?? There is simply no plan on when the US will or more to the point can pull out of that country. Meanwhile the US dollar continue to drop like a rock, the old age security system is in trouble based on the baby boomers coming up for future retirement.

It should be interesting what kind of country GWB will leave in 4 years - oh well at least gays can't get married !!

p.s. why shouldn't gays get married - let them suffer like the rest of us !
The interesting thing is that Kerry and Bush had the same Iraq plans. The US public didn't think Kerry would do better with the deficit (Liberal New England and all). The only impact these had was Bush was held accountable for them, which was fair.

US Dollar will help US industry and balance of trade.

LOL - love the last sentence, my feeling exactly.

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Drunken Master said:
... Where was all this concern for the Iraqi civilian back when Saddam was Rumsfeld's best buddy? ... gets their dictator a free pass, especially since it turns out that WMDs weren't much a threat to begin with? ...

... I'm just one of Fukyama's bitter "Last Men" unable to accept the glorious American Jerusalem. Your side has sowed the wind, and the election now gives you all rights to reap the....well, you know the rest.
Fuckyoma's men? Oh you mean Fukauyomama ... err Fukuyama!

ROTFLMAO

"Drunken Master you typify the very problem with the liberal intelligentsia! :p But you fail to realise that we don't need no smart President. He can always hire a smart one or two to a'vise 'im."
 

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Seems to me that Bush accessed the "silent majority" vote Nixon referred to in the late 60's. That conservative quiet majority of folks out there who do not tend to speak or vote.
 

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bbking said:
I'll vote for that! :p


bbk
What you really want is Gay Divorce and Gay cheating. LOL

Maybe Gays will move to Canada when you guys approve Gay marriage - they can use your refugee status rules. That would be tragic, so many smart talented people. I just don't get gay bashing, all the gay people I know are just a bit smarter, nicer and better looking than the rest of us.....

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onthebottom said:
... I just don't get gay bashing, all the gay people I know are just a bit smarter, nicer and better looking than the rest of us.....

OTB
... and liberal ... :eek:
 

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tompeepin said:
... and liberal ... :eek:
Like you need more of those in Canada....

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onthebottom said:
Like you need more of those in Canada....

OTB

we don't !! We have far too many people who think the government should solve all our problems. When in fact they've created alot of them.

i hear the latest "boondoggle" will be a national day care program from the Liberal government. - how about giving a simple tax break to families with kids ? or would that be too simple
 

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stainless said:
we don't !! We have far too many people who think the government should solve all our problems. When in fact they've created alot of them.

i hear the latest "boondoggle" will be a national day care program from the Liberal government. - how about giving a simple tax break to families with kids ? or would that be too simple
Nah, people can't be trusted with their money.

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sadly I was once a liberal and a commiteeman for Erie county

I resigned after I realized that only one family ran the party and told us how to vote.

was more like board meetings for the mafia than a democratic process.
 

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bbking said:
My understanding is that they are discussing the best way to deliever a National Day Care - I believe the leading candidate is just that a targeted tax cut along with legislation setting quidelines on standards and pricing. People in Canada are making the mistake that Martin is from the left side of the party - he ain't.


bbk
I've always thought of Martin being from the right side of the left party.

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onthebottom said:
I've always thought of Martin being from the right side of the left party.

OTB
Here in Canada the liberal party is more centrist than left. The NDP is left. And interestingly our conservative party is left of your democrats, go figure. Thus in the US perspective I am sure that the liberal party would be considered far left.
 

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stainless said:
we don't !! We have far too many people who think the government should solve all our problems. When in fact they've created alot of them.

i hear the latest "boondoggle" will be a national day care program from the Liberal government. - how about giving a simple tax break to families with kids ? or would that be too simple
there already are a bunch of tax breaks for just that purpose- for instance- up to $7,500 for child care expenses each year
 

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Laughter to drive the "blues" away ...

papasmerf said:
Sorry bro
wont open the link
the name alone suggest Michael Moore
an since he his a jerkoff I just wont improve his numbers by visiting anything of his
That was amusing OTB. But when you have smerfie, he is all the laughter that you need. :D
 

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I like this quote by Bertrand de Juvenal

"A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves" - Gotta love that French mind. :p
 

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..pathetic absolutely pathetic, I could understand him getting in the first time but after his dismal performance as President the fact he has been re-elected tells me all I need to know about the States. Puff out your chests while you can as your army slowly bleeds to death in Iraq, because after this idiot is through there is no telling how worse off we will all be in 4 years. He is totally devoid of anything other then his family connections. Quite frankly I now have no sympathy for the US whatsoever. If you cant recognize a incompetant lying moron after 4 years , you deserve what you get. Unfortunately your going to drag Canada down with you.
On the contrary, please have a lot of sympathy for us. We will need it after Bush is through with us. And, 48% of us did vote against him.

I tried desperately to encourage people to vote against Bush in the last few days. I think I may have persuaded one person, but not much luck otherwise. What did I hear as far as reasons for voting for Bush? Here's a sample:

1. You know where he stands.
2. He's a religious man, but doesn't force it on you.
3. I don't get my news from the newspapers.
4. Well, Rush Limbaugh said.........etc. etc.
5. John Kerry wants to take away our right to hunt!
6. I'm glad he went after Saddam, the leader of Al Qaida.
7. At least Bush hasn't lied to us like Clinton did.
8. He's a good man who takes responsibilty for his actions.
9. We need to keep Bush in Washington to make sure the national debt doesn't get worse.
10. Kerry is trying to promote homosexuality.

AAAAGGGHHHH!!!!! Everyone of those points is bullshit, but that's what people have told me. Assoholic, I personally (and 48% of my fellow voters) recognized that Bush is, like you said, an incompetent lying moron. Unfortunately, the majority did not recognize that.

Canadians, help me out here.............. how can we in the US defeat the radical right? What do we need to do? I am at a loss.
When half the people still believe it was Saddam who attacked on 9/11, how can I have a rational discussion with them? Any ideas are appreciated.........Jeb Bush looms on the horizon in 2008.
 
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