4 More Years!

[tompeepin]

I think if you're planning to attack the US then yes, Bush is indeed dangerous.

OTB

Ok ok Bush won and the American people have spoken and clearly made their decision. But let's not get carried away. "Bush is dangerous"? Please ... to whom? Suicide terrorists? Or Arab civilians? I am sure that the fanatical terrorists are quaking in their boots.

No matter who became the President, terrorism continues to be an equal threat. But it sure does become a great "propaganda" tool.

... Tell the relatives of the people being dug up from mass graves that it would be better to have Saddam in power. Tell the Kurds that it would have been better to let Saddam out of the sanctions box to rearm himself and attack his neighbors and citizens.

OTB

Oh please ... the US made Saddam who he was all in the name of "business", does the name Rumsfeld mean anything? Reagan looked the other way when the Kurds were gassed. Only when he threatened US access to Kuwaiti oil and the Saudi Royal family started to worry did the US care ... so please spare us the BS.

 

[assoholic]

I've had this discussion so many times I'm tiered of it, tell the 35,000 kids that were dieing EVERY year from sanctions that it was better to leave Saddam in power. Tell the relatives of the people being dug up from mass graves that it would be better to have Saddam in power. Tell the Kurds that it would have been better to let Saddam out of the sanctions box to rearm himself and attack his neighbors and citizens.

OTB

..what kind of idiotic statement is that ?, who put the sanctions on in the first place, get some more sleep.

 

[Drunken Master]

How classy of OTB to open up his own thread to gloat.

Funny, Iraq never attacked the US, that I can remember. Let's keep our sophistries straight, shall we?

On second thought, nevermind. I hope - as I would for any candidate - that Bush will find the wisdom to govern well.

The end.

 

[CH812]

OTB:

i think you better check your numbers 35,000 kids dying every day in Iraq due to sanctions? your talking about 12 000 000 kids a year in a country of 60 000 000..... get your facts straight buddy

 

[Asterix]

OTB:

i think you better check your numbers 35,000 kids dying every day in Iraq due to sanctions? your talking about 12 000 000 kids a year in a country of 60 000 000..... get your facts straight buddy

C'mon. you can do better than that. OTB is not goofy enough to suggest that many died a day, and either didn't post it that way or has since corrected it.

To your original post, I think your suggestion of a conspiracy in the states with electronic voting a bit much. I thought from last week that dubya would win by around 2 points, and despite bbk's assertion (yah, I'm still rubbing your nose in it), I didn't see any final weekend shift to the challenger. If anything it seemed to be going back Bush's way.

Still, it did make me wonder about future elections. Does anyone here really feel comfortable with the notion of electronic voting? If there is a paper trail as a backup fine. Otherwise, I would worry such a system would be open to tampering, if not simple glitches, that could not be traced.

 

[galt]

Quite frankly I now have no sympathy for the US whatsoever. If you cant recognize a incompetant lying moron after 4 years , you deserve what you get. Unfortunately your going to drag Canada down with you.

hmmm, sort of like the incompetant lying moron that just left the Prime Minister's office...The one who Canadians elected for three straight majorities and sat as he spoke to imaginary homeless people and openly stole from us with contempt. Me thinks you should take a good hard look behind your pointed finger

 

[CH812]

True there is corruption & lies in every political system in the world but there is a big difference when your lies are responsible for the deaths of 100,000 innocent iraqi's and almost 1300 american troops

 

[clipper]

Just Desserts

Apparently the Republicans got the gay-hating Christians out in force, wile the Democrats were unable to deliver the "youth vote".

Participation of young voters was a miserable 17% . If there is a draft, they'll be justifiably wearing it.

I guess they couldn't get "excited" about two old guys dukng it out. Maybe when they are "down on the killing floor" they'll wake up.

In the 70s Canada benefitted from draft-dodgers coming north.
I hope we send these ones back! Truly pathetic. Doesn't bode at all well for US democracy. Even Timothy Leary was more tuned in than these clowns.

 

[Asterix]

Re: Just Desserts

Participation of young voters was a miserable 17% . If there is a draft, they'll be justifiably wearing it.

I guess they couldn't get "excited" about two old guys dukng it out. Maybe when they are "down on the killing floor" they'll wake up.

Well, I see it didn't take long for compassionate conservatism to show up.

 

[CH812]

Bush will most certainly have to legislate a draft especially if he plans to strike more pre-emptive attacks against other countries in his "axis of evil" (Iran and N. Korea)

 

[CH812]

Its really funny how stupid rural America is.....your country is in a war based on lies that has already uneccessary killed 1300 troops and your economy is in the dumps but you decided your vote on gay marriage and abortion???

 

[Asterix]

Its really funny how stupid rural America is.....your country is in a war based on lies that has already uneccessary killed 1300 troops and your economy is in the dumps but you decided your vote on gay marriage and abortion???

Are you capable of making a sensible post, or are you just looking for attention and seeing how many fires you can start? I don't think anybody suggests the election swung on gay marraige or abortion.

 

[CH812]

Read the exit poles Axterix: 80% of people who voted for Bush did so because they say moral issues were their main issue when casting their ballot.

 

[Peeping Tom]

I suggest it did - it brought out enraged single issue voters, who then voted for Bush. See my thread.

I don't think anybody suggests the election swung on gay marraige or abortion.

 

[Asterix]

I suggest it did - it brought out enraged single issue voters, who then voted for Bush. See my thread.

Fair enough. I stand corrected. Considering the number of problems facing this country, I guess I would have hoped most people based their decision for president on character, the economy, education for their kids, health care, the war in Iraq, or what I thought had swung it, who they believed would better protect the country.Silly me.

If the vote was determined by gay marriage and abortion, I feel sadder about this election than I did before.

 

[Drunken Master]

I think you managed to hit the nail on the head despite Astriks comments. CNN all day has been saying that the vote went heavily to social issues even though the polls before the election showed that it was 4th on the list of concerns. Rev. Falwell announced today that 15 million Evangelical voted for Bush. Ok I'm done - I'm quoting a twit like Fawell, I'm grasping for straws.


bbk


how in hell did the new registrations not be in Kerry's favour - lost and confused in High Park

BBK - you and I should form the High Park Depressed Democrats-In-Spirit Support Group. Or HPDDISSG for short.

 

[danmand]

Bush will most certainly have to legislate a draft especially if he plans to strike more pre-emptive attacks against other countries in his "axis of evil" (Iran and N. Korea)

During the last few months, the US has delivered long range fighter bombers and 500 bunker buster bombs to Israel. A little favour may be called.

 

[Asterix]

BBK - you and I should form the High Park Depressed Democrats-In-Spirit Support Group. Or HPDDISSG for short.

If you accept honorary members from other states let me know. Also interesting is how Kerry did not do nearly as well with black voters as Clinton and even Gore. If anyone has a link to see how other minorities voted I"d like to see it.

 

[Asterix]

Re: Re: 4 More Years!

I also liked the class shown by John Kerry in all of this. He handled the defeat well.

Yep, he was gracious in defeat, and hopefully this will help the two sides work together. Lord knows there are enough problems.

Btw, thanks for getting rid of the shaking Bush. I was starting to get dizzy.

 

[gala]

So, now that Bush has won, America can get back to cracking down on immoral things like drugs and prostitution, teaching creationism in school, and banning condoms.