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black booty lover

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Why isnt anyone talking about the east Indian truck driver and his credentials?

If he wasnt in our country, this wouldnt have happened.

They drive the same way here as they do in their country. Just look at what happened with the paki who hit the skyway bridge!


I see a ban coming in your future...lol.
 

GameBoy27

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Of course truck driver is at fault but so is the bus driver. With a bus load of people he has to be practising extreme defensive driving so he should of made sure the truck was slowing or better yet completely stopped

Same argument for getting t boned at a stop light. Look before proceding even though you have right of way. It is called defensive driving

If I get into a accident at work I have to be not at fault and accident non preventable (ie side swipe, rear ended)

I suspect truck was driving into the setting sun. Did bus driver consider that? I always do as a result of defensive driving training.
Like I said, you're blaming the bus driver? He would've had to have been psychic to know the truck was approaching that intersection.

 

oil&gas

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Ghawar
Did you ever commute by TTC on Finch East
or Steeles East? At the intersection with the railway
near Kennedy the bus driver always stop like there
is a stop sign while other cars are moving besides it. The
view at the intersection is clear and you can tell nothing is
approaching from a far far distance but the driver would
stop anyway. There is another railway junction near Georgetown
on a GO bus route I travelled regularly where the bus
always stopped. And I never ever once saw a train
approaching at that point on my trip.

Long ago I also travelled long distance where the Grey
coach would once in a while detour to regional roads
near the highway. There were intersection with
no stop signs to one or both direction. Enforcing
such seemingly meaningless routine could have
avoided this tragedy.
 

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Fuck off with your bull shit racism crap!

It is what it is. Why do we as a society have to keep quiet for the weak to get a hand up?

It was a fucking East Indian driving like a fucking mad man that caused the accident! He must have been going well over the speed limit to cause such carnage.

These fucking immigrants from third world countries cause more problems than we need when they come here!

We cant find open shelters for a poor that are sleeping on the streets but we somehow find hotels and appartments for refugees?????

Something fucking wrong here.

If it takes just 1 man to shine light on the truth, it shall be me.
 

Fathammer

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I see a ban coming in your future...lol.
A ban for what? Can you tell me who the truck driver was? Was it a white guy?

Do white guys cut a hole in the floor of the truck to shit out of so the truck never has to stop?

Just sick and tired of the weak minorities telling the world the strong majority is wrong.

Stand up and fight back.
 

GameBoy27

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Did you ever commute by TTC on Finch East
or Steeles East? At the intersection with the railway
near Kennedy the bus driver always stop like there
is a stop sign while other cars are moving besides it. The
view at the intersection is clear and you can tell nothing is
approaching from a far far distance but the driver would
stop anyway. There is another railway junction near Georgetown
on a GO bus route I travelled regularly where the bus
always stopped. And I never ever once saw a train
approaching at that point on my trip.

Long ago I also travelled long distance where the Grey
coach would once in a while detour to regional roads
near the highway. There were intersection with
no stop signs to one or both direction. Enforcing
such seemingly meaningless routine could have
avoided this tragedy.
TTC, GO and school buses are required by law to stop at all railway crossings, that's why. Are you suggesting all vehicles come to a stop at intersections regardless of stop signs?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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A ban for what? Can you tell me who the truck driver was? Was it a white guy?

Do white guys cut a hole in the floor of the truck to shit out of so the truck never has to stop?

Just sick and tired of the weak minorities telling the world the strong majority is wrong.

Stand up and fight back
I think you mistakingly thought you had signed into your Stormfront account today
 

huckfinn

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Watching the helicopter fly-by, the crash scene is huge. No doubt the rig was travelling extremely fast. You don't get that kind of carnage from a typical t-bone accident between two cars at an intersection.

The corners show some stop signs too, but hard to see if all of them have one of if some of them were knocked down, but you can see at least one stop sign still up in tact on one of the corners.

So either the trucker blew through a stop sign at highway speed, or perhaps his side has no stop signs (right of way), while the bus driver's road had stop signs but he didn't stop.

Either way, some careless driving from at least one side. The intersection is a quiet looking country road with good visibility. You should be able to see what vehicles are driving perpendicular to you by glancing left or right.
I actually thought the bus must have been travelling fast to push the truck that far off the intersection.....
 

black booty lover

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A ban for what? Can you tell me who the truck driver was? Was it a white guy?

Do white guys cut a hole in the floor of the truck to shit out of so the truck never has to stop?

Just sick and tired of the weak minorities telling the world the strong majority is wrong.

Stand up and fight back.
Nobody is saying you can't express your feelings and what you believe in, as long as it's done in a diplomatic way. When you say derogatory things like "Just look at what happened with the paki who hit the skyway bridge!", you might get away with it once or twice if the mods don't see it, but I promise if you continue to conduct yourself in this manner, you'll be looking for another board to sign up for.
 

Darts

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Rest in peace and wish the survivors a speedy recovery.

In a previous life I drove east west on the highways in central Saskatchewan. I don't remember any trees. I do remember the roads were long, straight, flat and not much traffic. The setting sun at 5PM in April would be sitting just above your car's hood if you are driving west.

All I will say about the ethnicity of the truck driver is there is a reason why auto insurance rates are so high in Brampton.
https://www.lowestrates.ca/blog/auto/why-auto-insurance-brampton-so-expensive
https://peelurbanscapes.wordpress.com/2017/04/16/why-do-we-call-brampton-browntown/
 

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A ban for what? Can you tell me who the truck driver was? Was it a white guy?

Do white guys cut a hole in the floor of the truck to shit out of so the truck never has to stop?

Just sick and tired of the weak minorities telling the world the strong majority is wrong.

Stand up and fight back.
Go back to the blue board fathammer. Your racist undertones are unwelcome here. I’ve seen the filth you post over there and you are no better that that Quebec blogger who is saying the only reason the donations to the go fund me campaign are because of the ‘youthfulness’, ‘maleness’ and ‘whiteness’ of the victims.
 

oil&gas

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Ghawar
TTC, GO and school buses are required by law to stop at all railway crossings, that's why. Are you suggesting all vehicles come to a stop at intersections regardless of stop signs?
I don't think there different laws governing driving
through intersection on regional roads. It is up to the bus
driver to exercise good judgement to see to it the intersection
is clear.

I took driving lesson in a small town. In one lesson I was
about to push ahead at an intersection in a remote area
when the instructor stopped me and asked 'how do
you know for sure the other car cutting through the
intersection will stop and yield to you?"
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Go back to the blue board fathammer. Your racist undertones are unwelcome here. I’ve seen the filth you post over there and you are no better that that Quebec blogger who is saying the only reason the donations to the go fund me campaign are because of the ‘youthfulness’, ‘maleness’ and ‘whiteness’ of the victims
I reported him.

His handle should be dead in an hour or two
 

GameBoy27

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I actually thought the bus must have been travelling fast to push the truck that far off the intersection.....
If the the bus was traveling at the posted 100 km/h, it's actually not hard to imagine the force of the impact.

 

Phil C. McNasty

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^^^^ okay, so can't they put STOP signs at these places???!!
 

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^^^^ okay, so can't they put STOP signs at these places???!!
They want to keep HWY 35 as a non-stop road. Basically treat it like a highway in rural country. Gameboy's pic even shows it has a 100km/hr limit. Same as a 400-series highway.

Problem is unlike a normal highway like the 401, these country roads have intersecting streets. So someone on HWY 35 going at a good clip is praying nobody (like the trucker) will go through a red light.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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They want to keep HWY 35 as a non-stop road. Basically treat it like a highway in rural country. Gameboy's pic even shows it has a 100km/hr limit. Same as a 400-series highway.

Problem is unlike a normal highway like the 401, these country roads have intersecting streets. So someone on HWY 35 going at a good clip is praying nobody (like the trucker) will go through a red light
Thank you, as for somewhat explicable reason, I still say more needs to be done at these intersections.
Maybe more traffic lights, stop signs or other warning lights???

I hate the fact society has resigned us to the fact we should now do nothing???!!!
 

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Thank you, as for somewhat explicable reason, I still say more needs to be done at these intersections.
Maybe more traffic lights, stop signs or other warning lights???

I hate the fact society has resigned us to the fact we should now do nothing???!!!
According to the pic, the stop sign even has a red flashing light. And the trucker still blew through it. Given that, doesn't seem likely a full set of stop light would help. But maybe it would have.

Amazingly, some reason we've had no insightful info. All the cops keep saying is "we don't know". I'm sure they've grilled the truck driver, so let's hear what he has to say.
 

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Did you ever commute by TTC on Finch East
or Steeles East? At the intersection with the railway
near Kennedy the bus driver always stop like there
is a stop sign while other cars are moving besides it. The
view at the intersection is clear and you can tell nothing is
approaching from a far far distance but the driver would
stop anyway. There is another railway junction near Georgetown
on a GO bus route I travelled regularly where the bus
always stopped. And I never ever once saw a train
approaching at that point on my trip.

Long ago I also travelled long distance where the Grey
coach would once in a while detour to regional roads
near the highway. There were intersection with
no stop signs to one or both direction. Enforcing
such seemingly meaningless routine could have
avoided this tragedy.
Any bus I have been on always stops at railway intersections. However they do not stop at cross roads when they have the right of way. This accident is a combination of a few things, but the root cause is the truck blew past the stop sign and hit the bus.

If we look at what could have prevented that accident, then you need to examine sight lines - Which there were none. Had those trees not been in the way, chances are the bus driver would have seen a truck driving at a speed that was not safe enough to stop and he would have had the opportunity to make a defensive maneuver. It is amazing that as drivers, we can make a call like that quite fast, however it is unknown if the vehicle can react to our commands that fast. I do know that I have experienced a few situations where my mind quickly says to me "that asshole is not going to make it", so I react to avoid an accident.

No doubt there will be a few recommendations that will come out of this investigation. Suggestions like road markings in the event the sun is obscuring a sign/light, grooved payment indicating an approaching stop, removing trees or other things obscuring traffic from different directions, etc.

People from all races have made grave mistakes and in this instance it is magnified.
 
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