Maybe you should re-read the article:
"Three years ago, Ontario became the first province in the country to regulate the practice of homeopathy"
‘A pseudo-science’: Outrage after Ontario government funds college program in homeopa
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"Three years ago, Ontario became the first province in the country to regulate the practice of homeopathy"
Maybe you should re-read the article:
"Three years ago, Ontario became the first province in the country to regulate the practice of homeopathy"
Maybe you should do some research,... regulating,... does not mean acceptance,...
A government regulates the sale cigarettes,... but the does NOT mean they approve of its use.
The ONT. government does NOT accept homeopathy as a treatment for anything.
Your words: "Homeopathy and acupuncture is NOT recognised by the government of Ontario".Maybe you should do some research,... regulating,... does not mean acceptance,...
A government regulates the sale cigarettes,... but the does NOT mean they approve of its use.
The ONT. government does NOT accept homeopathy as a treatment for anything.
Your statement is factually incorrect, and not you are walking backwards.
Are you saying that Ontario regulates a practice that it does not recognize?
Homeopathy is no quackier than chiropractitioners.
2nd in school we had to take an exam regarding the observatuons of other cultures within Canada and how it is illegal to discriminate against anyone who doesnt believe in taking western medicine.
Alot of cultures dont take westernized drugs but more homeopathic medicines and it is their belief that it works so who are we to judge what works and what doesnt.
We are born and brought up to believe in the pharmaceutical industry as our life line if we get sick.
In other cultures, homeopathic medicine is theirs.
Homepathy is a legit practice that competes with western medicine.
The monopoly has to end and other branches of medicine need to be observed and practiced while living in a multicultural, multi religious society.
2nd in school we had to take an exam regarding the observatuons of other cultures within Canada and how it is illegal to discriminate against anyone who doesnt believe in taking western medicine.
Alot of cultures dont take westernized drugs but more homeopathic medicines and it is their belief that it works so who are we to judge what works and what doesnt.
We are born and brought up to believe in the pharmaceutical industry as our life line if we get sick.
In other cultures, homeopathic medicine is theirs.
Homepathy is a legit practice that competes with western medicine.
The monopoly has to end and other branches of medicine need to be observed and practiced while living in a multicultural, multi religious society.
Because it is dangerous when people seek it out as a primary cure and forego proven, main stream medical solutions, thereby allowing a condition to significantly worsen and potentially become life threatening. It is the same as going to see a faith healer to cure cancer as a first choice treatment for months, all while the tumour is growing. It is dangerous.Why shouldn't they teach homeopathy?
If traditional medical treatment has failed a person, then let them try the quack remedies.
No, but maybe somewhat ignorant on this particular topic.So is Health Canada a fake and a fraud?
You're making an irrelevant comparison.Because it is dangerous when people seek it out as a primary cure and forego proven, main stream medical solutions, thereby allowing a condition to significantly worsen and potentially become life threatening. It is the same as going to see a faith healer to cure cancer as a first choice treatment for months, all while the tumour is growing. It is dangerous.
If traditional medical treatment has failed a person, then let them try the quack remedies.
Homeopathy is recognized and regulated by Health Canada. Faith Healers aren't.
If/when a recognized college or university starts teaching a course on faith healing, then we can discuss that.
Ahhh... right... Once again, the anonymous experts on terb know better than a federal regulator body.No, but maybe somewhat ignorant on this particular topic.
Man... I have learned in such a short period of time that there are so many experts here. Seems like such a waste of talent.
That implies an intent to deceive.So is Health Canada a fake and a fraud?
It is a totally fallacious argument to say that because they are wrong on one topic then they are a fraudulent organization in toto. Just because they are wrong once it does not make them wrong in everything. One error in the Steele dossier does not invalidate the entire document.
So if someone has cancer, do you recommend that they go to a homeoquack as their first choice of treatment?Ahhh... right... Once again, the anonymous experts on terb know better than a federal regulator body.
Man... I have learned in such a short period of time that there are so many experts here. Seems like such a waste of talent.
Wrong in your opinion <> wrong.That implies an intent to deceive.
It is a totally fallacious argument to say that because they are wrong on one topic then they are a fraudulent organization in toto. Just because they are wrong once it does not make them wrong in everything. One error in the Steele dossier does not invalidate the entire document.
Not at all. I'm actually not recommending anything, so please don't try to distract by jumping around.So if someone has cancer, do you recommend that they go to a homeoquack as their first choice of treatment?
I am defending the college's right to offer a course on a subject that Health Canada recognizes. If you read the article in the OP, you will find that it is incredibly biased. 'How dare they teach that?' Maybe they failed to consult with the terb 'world-experts' before they approved the program?
Let the market sort it out. Students will enroll or they will not enroll.
You did not address my point which is because I say they are wrong on this topic I am not saying that they are always wrong or fraudulent.Wrong in your opinion <> wrong.
Homeopathy is quackery. The gov't is too concerned about being politically correct and showing how "open" and "inclusive" they are.
So you agree that if someone with cancer goes to a homeoquck as their first choice, that would not be a good choice.Not at all.
apoptygma, you are resting your case solely on the fact that Health Canada has given approval in some way to homeopathy. You must not be a scientist or have a scientific mind. That is not meant as a put-down, it is meant as an excuse. The basis of science is to have a hypothesis and continually work to prove that hypothesis is correct or not. Just because some governmental authority says something is good that doesn't guarantee it's good.Ahhh... right... Once again, the anonymous experts on terb know better than a federal regulator body.
Man... I have learned in such a short period of time that there are so many experts here. Seems like such a waste of talent.
To prove my point, I'll just go back to 1 tragedy that was inflicted by a drug with potentially severe teratogenic effects that was approved by our federal government even though a Canadian doctor working at a parallel American institution refused to allow the drug to be used in the US.
https://thalidomide.ca/en/the-canadian-tragedy/
Thalidomide was allowed to be sold to pregnant Canadian women by our federal watchdogs at the time. Bad mistake.
With respect, apoptygma, do a little research yourself before you trust blindly in some agency (any agency) telling you that something is safe. And if you don't have the expertise to judge a treatment/product, then listen to the professionals who do have the expertise.
Homeopathy IS quackery. It won't hurt you, it just doesn't help (any more than any other placebo.) Where it hurts is in preventing or delaying appropriate treatments that have been peer reviewed and studied to be effective.
You did not address my point which is YOU said they are wrong. Well then... cancel the program. An anonymous expert on terb says something.You did not address my point which is because I say they are wrong on this topic I am not saying that they are always wrong or fraudulent.
Homeopathy is quackery. The gov't is too concerned about being politically correct and showing how "open" and "inclusive" they are.
Yes... let's be open and inclusive, at the expense of the health of all Canadians. You truly believe that is Health Canada's mission?
Why are you topic drifting?So you agree that if someone with cancer goes to a homeoquck as their first choice, that would not be a good choice.
Never did I ever say I support or do not support homeopathy. Never did I say I think it works or I think it doesn't work.
My claim is that the college has every right to teach a course on Homeopathy... especially since it is recognized by Health Canada.
Perfectly relevant as they are both bullshit. Health Canada is wrong.You're making an irrelevant comparison.
Homeopathy is recognized and regulated by Health Canada. Faith Healers aren't.
If/when a recognized college or university starts teaching a course on faith healing, then we can discuss that.
A recommendation by Health Canada is hardly a guarantee that they are unequivocally correct. They have changed their "recommendations" regarding daily nutrition, cardiac care, antibiotic usage and on and on and on.
I am not trying to say that Health Canada is unworthy. I actually have faith in them for the most part, but they are hardly infallible. In this case they are wrong.
Please tell me, then. Do you think somebody who goes to a homeoquack as a first treatment is making a mistake. I know you have lots of (mostly well-informed) opinions so please give me a "yes" or "no" answer. It is a simple and fair question and as well, your answer is germane to me drifting back on topic.Why are you topic drifting?
Never did I ever say I support or do not support homeopathy. Never did I say I think it works or I think it doesn't work.
My claim is that the college has every right to teach a course on Homeopathy... especially since it is recognized by Health Canada.
Thank you for your post.apoptygma, you are resting your case solely on the fact that Health Canada has given approval in some way to homeopathy. You must not be a scientist or have a scientific mind. That is not meant as a put-down, it is meant as an excuse. The basis of science is to have a hypothesis and continually work to prove that hypothesis is correct or not. Just because some governmental authority says something is good that doesn't guarantee it's good.
To prove my point, I'll just go back to 1 tragedy that was inflicted by a drug with potentially severe teratogenic effects that was approved by our federal government even though a Canadian doctor working at a parallel American institution refused to allow the drug to be used in the US.
https://thalidomide.ca/en/the-canadian-tragedy/
Thalidomide was allowed to be sold to pregnant Canadian women by our federal watchdogs at the time. Bad mistake.
With respect, apoptygma, do a little research yourself before you trust blindly in some agency (any agency) telling you that something is safe. And if you don't have the expertise to judge a treatment/product, then listen to the professionals who do have the expertise.
Homeopathy IS quackery. It won't hurt you, it just doesn't help (any more than any other placebo.) Where it hurts is in preventing or delaying appropriate treatments that have been peer reviewed and studied to be effective.
You are correct in that people shouldn't completely and blindly trust regulatory agencies. I actually completely agree with you, and the Thalidomide example is one I am familiar with. It was safe until it wasn't. Just like tobacco. It was safe until it wasn't.
I am not defending the practice of Homeopathy. I am defending the college's right to teach a course on Homeopathy. Big difference. People tend to like to invent facts on this site for some reason.
Are you telling me that you have the expertise to judge Homeopathy as ACTUAL quackery?
