GOP buffoon attempts gotcha moment vs. Jack Smith, fails miserably, throws hissy fit

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Do these guys do any research before these hearings, or do they just want to look stupid in front of everyone?

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Senator’s Accusation Against Jack Smith Falls Apart

Senator Eric Schmitt, a Republican eager to prove that Jack Smith, the special counsel who investigated Donald Trump, was dishonest, appeared to instead demo...
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Mistakes NBA for NCAA, men’s basketball for women’s basketball, Atlanta Hawks for Iowa Hawkeyes. Gets called out for it, then ragequits.
 
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Here’s Cancun Ted Cruz trying to sound tough but ends up sounding like a wannabe 1940’s mobster or radio host, all that was missing was him saying “see?” at the end of his questions.

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Ted Cruz CONFRONTS Jack Smith, PAYS DEARLY!🚨🚨🚨

Ted Cruz confronts Jack Smith on TV. BAD MOVE!🚨🚨🚨Cruz spent his time at today's Senate hearing raging that Smith's team got Republican senators' phone rec...
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versitile1 said:
Do these guys do any research before these hearings, or do they just want to look stupid in front of everyone?

Mistakes NBA for NCAA, men’s basketball for women’s basketball, Atlanta Hawks for Iowa Hawkeyes. Gets called out for it, then ragequits.
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Yes, stupid mistake.
When you're showboating you're prone to not do your due diligence.

But just as a clarification, no one really calls the Iowa Hawkeyes the Hawks. A Missourian would definitely know that to be the case.
The exception would be a young, uninformed D.C. staffer working for Jack Smith.

That's why you have to double check your facts and refrain from bloviating. It's very stupid to presume that a highly-experienced prosecutor is going to lie about his travel schedule in a Senate hearing.
 
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BootyMane said:
of course not they just use ai to come up with arguments for them
also that slow zoom in to katie britt as she realizes her fellow gop member is a complete and utter moron was a thing of beauty
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It's 50:50 whether Katie was horrified at Schmitt's self-destruction and idiocy or whether she's so absolutely fucking dumb herself that she was just confused as to what was going on around her.
 
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He'll probably blame one of his staff employees.
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Guy's a former DA and should have known better.

Put yourself in his shoes. Your bizarre "theory" is that Smith visited Atlanta to co-conspire with Fani Willis and plot against Trump. No actual evidence of Smith doing this BTW.

Except there are leaked emails of Smith going to a "Hawks" basketball game. And a basketball team nicknamed the Hawks plays in the same city as Willis lives. ("So what?!" you say, like any normal person would. But MAGA doesn't operate normally).

Surely to fuck it should have occurred to this scrotum that there are literally 100's of basketball teams nicknamed the Hawks across America - high school, college, rec league, whatever. Scrotum doesn't bother to check out any of the alternatives. Just wades in and insults Smith and gloats in Smith's face to make it 100 times worse when he's quickly caught out.

He doesn't need staff to tell him his "gotcha" needs to be investigated further before being publicly used. He's just an asshole without a brain.
 
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mandrill said:
Guy's a former DA and should have known better.

Put yourself in his shoes. Your bizarre "theory" is that Smith visited Atlanta to co-conspire with Fani Willis and plot against Trump. No actual evidence of Smith doing this BTW.

Except there are leaked emails of Smith going to a "Hawks" basketball game. And a basketball team nicknamed the Hawks plays in the same city as Willis lives. ("So what?!" you say, like any normal person would. But MAGA doesn't operate normally).

Surely to fuck it should have occurred to this scrotum that there are literally 100's of basketball teams nicknamed the Hawks across America - high school, college, rec league, whatever. Scrotum doesn't bother to check out any of the alternatives. Just wades in and insults Smith and gloats in Smith's face to make it 100 times worse when he's quickly caught out.

He doesn't need staff to tell him his "gotcha" needs to be investigated further before being publicly used. He's just an asshole without a brain.
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At times like this you reach for a conspiracy theory.
How's this: After the first quarter at the Hawkeyes game the democratic party had him flown by their helicopter to the Atlanta Hawks game so he could have his meeting with Fani Willis. When the meeting was over the Democrats used their helicopter to transport Smith back to the Hawkeyes game in time for the fourth quarter so it would seem he was there the whole time. All expenses were paid by George Soros.
 
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mandrill said:
It's 50:50 whether Katie was horrified at Schmitt's self-destruction and idiocy or whether she's so absolutely fucking dumb herself that she was just confused as to what was going on around her.
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It would seem that you are saying she should absolutely know her sports teams.
That when I am not even sure that Jack Smith's staff knows the correct name for the Iowa Hawkeyes.

All in all, it was an inconsequential mistake. No more than I have seen from showboating Democratic Senators at hearings.
So now you are attacking a female Senator merely for being present at a relatively trivial event.
 
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It would seem that you are saying she should absolutely know her sports teams.
That when I am not even sure that Jack Smith's staff knows the correct name for the Iowa Hawkeyes.

All in all, it was an inconsequential mistake. No more than I have seen from showboating Democratic Senators at hearings.
So now you are attacking a female Senator merely for being present at a relatively trivial event.
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I'd love to see an example of a Dem showboating and failing as spectacularly as Schmitt did. I honestly cannot think of anything remotely close. But, that's kind of telling in its own way.

I've said it before, I truly don't think the GOP can govern. They talk a lot about doing shit, but mostly they fight culture wars. I'm honestly trying to think of the last piece of legislation the GOP passed that helped the average American. They all seem more interested in making a name for themselves for "owning the Libs/Dems" then actually doing things to make life better for their constituents.

Now, back to this actual shit show....Talk about jumping to conclusions. From what was shown in the hearing, those text messages didn't mention a basketball game, Atlanta or the Hawks. There might have been emails that were not shown, I suppose. But, staffers saw Hawks and immediately thought about Atlanta, Fani Willis and her relationship story....and in their mind 1+1=4. I honestly don't understand how they made this claim without doing any due diligence. Like, basic stuff. They were so hot and ready to spring a "perjury" trap on Smith. And, we know Schmitt was all set to make appearances on the right-wing media to take a victory lap. Hell, he even had Axios post about how he was a potential VP candidate for JD Vance's expected presidential run...Talk about getting egg on his face...
 
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silentkisser said:
I'd love to see an example of a Dem showboating and failing as spectacularly as Schmitt did. I honestly cannot think of anything remotely close. But, that's kind of telling in its own way.
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It was a stupid, but relatively trivial mistake. The Senator presumed something, asked a question and wouldn't accept the very straight answer. It happens all the time at Congressional hearings. What made the moment truly awkward was the Senator's pettifogging which again I assure you is common from both sides of the aisles.

People who have an interest in Congressional hearings generally have a deep-seated bias. They overlook any overzealous questioning by their party champions.

No offense but based on the articles you post and your political interests, I would not be surprised if you get an asymmetric view of the U.S. Congress.
 
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It was a stupid, but relatively trivial mistake. The Senator presumed something, asked a question and wouldn't accept the very straight answer. It happens all the time at Congressional hearings. What made the moment truly awkward was the Senator's pettifogging which again I assure you is common from both sides of the aisles.

People who have an interest in Congressional hearings generally have a deep-seated bias. They overlook any overzealous questioning by their party champions.

No offense but based on the articles you post and your political interests, I would not be surprised if you get an asymmetric view of the U.S. Congress.
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Having worked in the right-wing media, I can assure you that I do attempt to read both right and left. Well, it's more right and centrist. The reality is that the right, at least for the past decade or so, has basically worked to become social media darlings. That's why MTG and Lauren Bobert got famous. That's why so many of their ilk, like Schmitt, are trying to build their profiles by doing these "gotcha" moment. Schmitt was so ready to do his victory lap....And, as I mentioned, he already had planted an Axios story allegedly showing him as a front runner VP for Vance's potential presidential run....I wouldn't call that "pettifogging," he was convinced he caught the evil and twisted Jack Smith doing perjury! He had righteous indignation! He was going to brink Smith's head to Trump and get a pat on the back. Then it went all to shit. You gotta admit, that was a monumental disaster for him. It ruined his big day of Fox News appearances and what not, he only went on the Charlie Kirk show....and pretended he did something amazing.

Now, I won't pretend that he left doesn't showboat. I'm not a fan of when either side asks a question and then doesn't really allow the witness to respond. I get that they don't want to allow them to grandstand or give a non-answer....But, I cannot remember when a Dem did something like this, make a big accusation, accuse someone of perjury, then totally fail in their ability to back it up.
 
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versitile1 said:
Do these guys do any research before these hearings, or do they just want to look stupid in front of everyone?

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Senator’s Accusation Against Jack Smith Falls Apart

Senator Eric Schmitt, a Republican eager to prove that Jack Smith, the special counsel who investigated Donald Trump, was dishonest, appeared to instead demo...
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Mistakes NBA for NCAA, men’s basketball for women’s basketball, Atlanta Hawks for Iowa Hawkeyes. Gets called out for it, then ragequits.
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The only job for the MAGA GOP in Congress is to protect and enable their god-king.
It doesn't matter how much Trump lies or how corrupt he is, they must protect the mob-boss.
 
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silentkisser said:
Having worked in the right-wing media, I can assure you that I do attempt to read both right and left. Well, it's more right and centrist. The reality is that the right, at least for the past decade or so, has basically worked to become social media darlings. That's why MTG and Lauren Bobert got famous. That's why so many of their ilk, like Schmitt, are trying to build their profiles by doing these "gotcha" moment. Schmitt was so ready to do his victory lap....And, as I mentioned, he already had planted an Axios story allegedly showing him as a front runner VP for Vance's potential presidential run....I wouldn't call that "pettifogging," he was convinced he caught the evil and twisted Jack Smith doing perjury! He had righteous indignation! He was going to brink Smith's head to Trump and get a pat on the back. Then it went all to shit. You gotta admit, that was a monumental disaster for him. It ruined his big day of Fox News appearances and what not, he only went on the Charlie Kirk show....and pretended he did something amazing.
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If you think a first term U.S. Senator talking himself out of a potential V.P. slot big news, that's fine. I know his name, but he wasn't on my radar.
I'm guessing the liberal media will make him out to have been a future Presidential candidate.

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Now, I won't pretend that he left doesn't showboat. I'm not a fan of when either side asks a question and then doesn't really allow the witness to respond. I get that they don't want to allow them to grandstand or give a non-answer....But, I cannot remember when a Dem did something like this, make a big accusation, accuse someone of perjury, then totally fail in their ability to back it up.
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I can think of Adam Schiff leading the House Intelligence Committee making all sorts of claims to the media about Trump and Russia and never really backing them up. It was particularly reprehensible because he was using his intelligence access and position to imply some concrete evidence existed.

This was a far, far bigger accusation than Jack Smith's whereabouts on Feb. 3, 2024. Many people were really hoping that Schiff had something. The now Senator Schiff kind of goes to my point that if people like what they are selling they aren't going to care if it's not backed up.
 
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Essentially a long-time MAGA turd-seller.

He finally tried to sell one ripe turd too many.
 
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WyattEarp said:
It was a stupid, but relatively trivial mistake. The Senator presumed something, asked a question and wouldn't accept the very straight answer. It happens all the time at Congressional hearings. What made the moment truly awkward was the Senator's pettifogging which again I assure you is common from both sides of the aisles.

People who have an interest in Congressional hearings generally have a deep-seated bias. They overlook any overzealous questioning by their party champions.

No offense but based on the articles you post and your political interests, I would not be surprised if you get an asymmetric view of the U.S. Congress.
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There is really no regard for facts or truth it's shameless posturing and smear campaigns and relentless attacks against the opposition
 
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If you think a first term U.S. Senator talking himself out of a potential V.P. slot big news, that's fine. I know his name, but he wasn't on my radar.
I'm guessing the liberal media will make him out to have been a future Presidential candidate.


I can think of Adam Schiff leading the House Intelligence Committee making all sorts of claims to the media about Trump and Russia and never really backing them up. It was particularly reprehensible because he was using his intelligence access and position to imply some concrete evidence existed.

This was a far, far bigger accusation than Jack Smith's whereabouts on Feb. 3, 2024. Many people were really hoping that Schiff had something. The now Senator Schiff kind of goes to my point that if people like what they are selling they aren't going to care if it's not backed up.
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I think it is fair to argue that point. But, as Schiff pointed out, there was a likely attempt to coordinate with Russia. And the fact that the Mueller report basically said the President could've/should be charged with obstruction kind of tells its own tale (he didn't make a reconmondation because the DOJ had policies about these things). I mean, if Trump didn't interfere with the investigation or promise pardons to people who refused to speak, who is to say that there wouldn't have been more evidence to a link with Russia? I'd also argue that if Trump and his allies had nothing to hide, why did Trump obstruct the investigation? Those are not the actions of someone with a clean conscience.

As for Schmitt, the funny point is that he was expecting to make his MAGA bonafides that day. He literally thought he was going to scalp Smith and was planning his victory lap on the right-wing media. The whole point of these hearings is for the GOP to wash Trump's reputation. I would have loved to see Trump face these allegations in open court. And, maybe in 2029, he might. I'd also love to hear Smith talk about what evidence he uncovered in the documents case, but we know the MAGA judge Cannon won't let him talk about that...
 
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I think it is fair to argue that point. But, as Schiff pointed out, there was a likely attempt to coordinate with Russia. And the fact that the Mueller report basically said the President could've/should be charged with obstruction kind of tells its own tale (he didn't make a reconmondation because the DOJ had policies about these things). I mean, if Trump didn't interfere with the investigation or promise pardons to people who refused to speak, who is to say that there wouldn't have been more evidence to a link with Russia? I'd also argue that if Trump and his allies had nothing to hide, why did Trump obstruct the investigation? Those are not the actions of someone with a clean conscience.
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You're merely repeating your perspective of the Russian collusion affair. This doesn't change that fact Schiff used his position to feed red meat to the crowd. He said he saw plenty of evidence of collusion and conspiracy. Whether obstruction occurred or not, does not change that fact. If Schiff actually saw plenty of evidence, then obstruction would have been a moot point. Either the evidence existed at the time of his public statements or it didn't.

silentkisser said:
As for Schmitt, the funny point is that he was expecting to make his MAGA bonafides that day. He literally thought he was going to scalp Smith and was planning his victory lap on the right-wing media. The whole point of these hearings is for the GOP to wash Trump's reputation. I would have loved to see Trump face these allegations in open court. And, maybe in 2029, he might. I'd also love to hear Smith talk about what evidence he uncovered in the documents case, but we know the MAGA judge Cannon won't let him talk about that...
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I already said Schmitt's questioning and accusation was stupid. There was a whole lot more discussed at the hearings that were relevant. Jack Smith is being sued by at least one Senator for obtaining her phone logs. That's her right.
 
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You're merely repeating your perspective of the Russian collusion affair. This doesn't change that fact Schiff used his position to feed red meat to the crowd. He said he saw plenty of evidence of collusion and conspiracy. Whether obstruction occurred or not, does not change that fact. If Schiff actually saw plenty of evidence, then obstruction would have been a moot point. Either the evidence existed at the time of his public statements or it didn't.



I already said Schmitt's questioning and accusation was stupid. There was a whole lot more discussed at the hearings that were relevant. Jack Smith is being sued by at least one Senator for obtaining her phone logs. That's her right.
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Schiff frequently stated that there was "ample" or "plenty" of evidence of collusion in plain sight, pointing to public actions and communications involving Trump campaign figures like Donald Trump Jr., George Papadopoulos, Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, and Jared Kushner (such as the Trump Tower meeting).
 
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