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When to Leave/Ask for Donation?

PeteOsborne

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Once in awhile I get a client, usually a newbie, who hands me the cash as soon as he walks in my door before I can even say "hello" with a kiss and hug.

I feel awkward when this happens for some reason.

They are doing nothing wrong but my routine is to say "hello" give hugs and kisses, ask them to take their shoes off and get payment left on my dresser once in my bedroom after some small talk.
Then they can remove their coat and head to the washroom.

I do have trusted regulars who shower beforehand and we are in Kingston, so it is a 5 minute drive to me. I am fine with that for regulars TBH.

And sometimes with regulars, we get too hot and heavy too quickly.
When that occurs, payment is given afterwards.
These are people I trust that if payment was forgotten, they would make sure I received it somehow.
I try to give up front but with some regulars we have both forgot until afterwards, one time putting on my boots, she asked did we square up?
Another time i was out at my truck reached in my pocket to get my keys and pulled out the payment, so I went back and gave it to her.
The third time I was at home and emptied my pockets, realized I had forgot, texted I would come right back and she said just give it to me next visit, which I did.
 
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_Melissa

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I try to give up front but with some regulars we have both forgot until afterwards, one time putting on my boots, she asked did we square up?
Another time i was out at my truck reached in my pocket to get my keys and pulled out the payment, so I went back and gave it to her.
The third time I was at home and emptied my pockets, realized I had forgot, texted I would come right back and she said just give it to me next visit, which I did.
This has happened to me once before with a regular! We were having so much fun we both forgot the payment. I was already in the shower by the time he realized and called me. He waited 20 minutes in the parking lot for me to get back to him so he could come back and pay me. It’s guys like that are the real MVP! I gave him some complimentary extra time the next time he booked for being so honest!
 
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Forgetting happens with regulars. I had a client leave, I didn’t even look for the cash because I was busy with something else. Had to contact him the next day and say “oops”. LOL.

He sent an EMT right away and I knew he would. But sometimes you have a guy who thinks “well I got away with a free session” and they just don’t go back. Not only has the girl lost out on the actually call but she loses a regular too. I know a couple girls that happened too.
 

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Forgetting happens with regulars. I had a client leave, I didn’t even look for the cash because I was busy with something else. Had to contact him the next day and say “oops”. LOL.

He sent an EMT right away and I knew he would. But sometimes you have a guy who thinks “well I got away with a free session” and they just don’t go back. Not only has the girl lost out on the actually call but she loses a regular too. I know a couple girls that happened too.
They likely lose more than that; when they lose trust in guys to do the right thing, it may affect the way they see and/or interact with the guys who come after. Making someone lose trust in others is a pretty shitty thing to do.
 
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forgo10

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Forgetting happens with regulars. I had a client leave, I didn’t even look for the cash because I was busy with something else. Had to contact him the next day and say “oops”. LOL.

He sent an EMT right away and I knew he would. But sometimes you have a guy who thinks “well I got away with a free session” and they just don’t go back. Not only has the girl lost out on the actually call but she loses a regular too. I know a couple girls that happened too.
You are right in both cases especially about maybe losing a regular who thinks he got a freebee. Even if Kitty's gut feeling is usually right, it can be wrong and if so, it costs the SP and she may lose that customer going forward.

If I am seeing a lady for the first time, I will always discreetly place the donation on the end table or bureau or ? Mistakes can always happen however.

Once with a long term regular of mine, we met up, had a great time, had some great conversation after and after that, I got dressed and went on my way. I always only have the donation in cash with me (force of habit), and completely forgot to give it to her. I didn't realize until I was home. She never called or texted or anything. At our next meeting, I paid up front for 2 sessions and told her I forgot last time. She started laughing and told me she hadn't realized I forgot to pay last time. Needless to say, we had a very enjoyable time. LOL

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drstrangelove

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Or for a totally different approach . . After having been ripped off by a new to me SP, (she only offered a covered hand job after receiving the money), when booking I ask the SP if she'll accept half up front, the other half once promised services have been provided. If the SP is honest, this shouldn't be a problem.
 

Cowboy_Tony

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Last night with a long time regular. I was putting on my shoes and she asked me if I had left the donation (knowing full well I forgot). I apologized profusely and gave it to her. But that's the thing with regulars, you can forget because it's natural to just be comfortable with each other.

It was a little awkward but she's beautiful and kind and said she nearly forgot too...no big deal.
 

ispank

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I travel a lot. I find the "rules" for donation differ by location. It is easier to be explicit about how you like it. The issue the client is worried about is bait and switch. Once you have the money, they are afraid you are going to go cold, or the phone will ring and you leave or ... Your approach of having them leave it somewhere in clear view will reduce those anxieties and if you only put it "away" after everyone is clearly not going anywhere will lower those worries..
 

_Melissa

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Or for a totally different approach . . After having been ripped off by a new to me SP, (she only offered a covered hand job after receiving the money), when booking I ask the SP if she'll accept half up front, the other half once promised services have been provided. If the SP is honest, this shouldn't be a problem.
This is why I stress to guys that it’s so important to do research on a girl first before making such an investment. If you make any investment in life (Car, home, escorts, etc) without doing the research first then you have to bite the bullet and understand that you took a huge risk in the first place. This is far less likely to happen to you with a girl that has a stellar reputation.

Also, there are actually 2 problems with paying this way:

1. There’s no guarantee on her end that you yourself are honest and will actually pay the second half. It sounds like a scam.

2. Most girls charge for time and not services.
 

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This is why I stress to guys that it’s so important to do research on a girl first before making such an investment. If you make any investment in life (Car, home, escorts, etc) without doing the research first then you have to bite the bullet and understand that you took a huge risk in the first place. This is far less likely to happen to you with a girl that has a stellar reputation.

Also, there are actually 2 problems with paying this way:

1. There’s no guarantee on her end that you yourself are honest and will actually pay the second half. It sounds like a scam.

2. Most girls charge for time and not services.
Yes. It's time we're paying for. (We can't help it if young beauties find plain looking older blokes with no discernable skills irresistible). Stay away from the dodgy ladies as Melissa says. Then pay upfront. There is a performance aspect to this sort of visit (she's engaging yourself as a gf and you're buying into it) so having to ask is really awkward. (In fact, one agency lady -no longer in the biz - upon entering the door says to me with a neutral face, "put the payment here and you have to take a shower." Then turns her back and goes to the bed. No hello, no nothing else. Just ruined the experience right at the get-go.

Thus, drop the envelope before the shower. It lets her know you're not a scumbag, and she can count it whilst you're showering. It's classier than counting it in front of the client. And this is essential: doing this also removes that question as to whether you're a scumbag from her mind during your visit, so she can relax more. And, the more comfortable she is with you, the better it is for you!
Not rocket science lads.
P.S. w trusted regs maybe no envelope used.
 

_Melissa

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Is that what you told the judge? I bet he didn't buy it either.
Buy it, don’t buy it. That doesn’t matter to me. It’s a simple well known fact and nothing more. You’ll see it on 90% of escort websites and I guarantee you’ll have a hard time finding a professional and established escort willing to accept payment in 2 separate transactions the way you described instead of everything up front and out of the way.

Think about it… when you see an escorts ad with a list of her rates does it show how much she charges for specific increments of time or does it show a list of all the services she offers with the price of each service beside each of them?

Wish you good luck. Let us all know how your method of payment works out for you. With receipts of course!
 
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superman12

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I usually leave the donation on a table right as i enter the room before taking a shower and after exchanging a few pleasantries if she initiates. I let the sp know im doing so. Something casual like "hey hun just leaving the donation here" so there is no miscommunication. As for tipping i always do that at the end of the session depending on how well i clicked with the sp and the level of service i thought i had. Usually just hand her the tip when exchanging our goodbye hugs and kisses.
 
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drstrangelove

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Buy it, don’t buy it. That doesn’t matter to me. It’s a simple well known fact and nothing more. You’ll see it on 90% of escort websites and I guarantee you’ll have a hard time finding a professional and established escort willing to accept payment in 2 separate transactions the way you described instead of everything up front and out of the way.

Think about it… when you see an escorts ad with a list of her rates does it show how much she charges for specific increments of time or does it show a list of all the services she offers with the price of each service beside each of them?

Wish you good luck. Let us all know how your method of payment works out for you. With receipts of course!
So I guess we should just forget all the discussions about how much more clients had to pay to get a particular service? However, you may be quite right that this doesn't apply with "most girls", but I can't say for sure because I've only sampled a relatively small number.
 

_Melissa

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So I guess we should just forget all the discussions about how much more clients had to pay to get a particular service? However, you may be quite right that this doesn't apply with "most girls", but I can't say for sure because I've only sampled a relatively small number.
Yes you should because I’m generally speaking of the base payment for a companions time. In my experience men dont Say “Hi how much for a bj, sex and kissing.” They ask, “How much for half an hour or an hour, etc.”

If there are any “extras” often times it’s because the service being asked for is extremely risky and she wants a TIP for going above and beyond because she’s risking her health and safety to do it. i.e. CIM, CIMSW, COF etc.

Aside from that, at the very core of it all she is charging for her TIME first and foremost.
 
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Lv Wmn

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Normally I feel like I am some kind of superhero getting the envelope out of my pocket and placed as requested faster than the speed of light. I really do not want anyone I am meeting thinking I am going to try and skip out.

I have forgotten more than once to do that though. I remember sitting chatting about civi jobs and I remembered the envelope was still in my jacket. I jumped up like I had been zapped and quickly retrieved the envelope. We both had a laugh at my reaction it was not the first time we had met she was less concerned than I was.

I have someone I see pretty regularly and I just transfer the funds. Once she had to cancel fairly close to the time we had set, no problem we can easily reschedule. Couple hours later get a text, "you already paid?" I had, again no big deal just applied to the future meeting.

I assume they counting the donation while I am in the shower, I do not remember anyone counting it right then and there. I am not sure how I would feel about, but I would not make a big deal about it standing in the room.

At a spa, if I have seen someone regularly, I just leave the tip where it can be seen.

So slightly different perspective than some, I am pretty much repeating rather than trying different ladies each time
 

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From my experience, if an SP asks for the donation right up front it means she only cares about the money and cares less on the service. If it is an SP who never even mentions about the donation, this means she is more interested in the service and less about the money.
Do you know how many times a donation has been forgotten about because it is not paid upfront. Ensuring payment doesn't mean she cares more or less about anything.

The SP shouldn’t even have to ask. You should walk in and give it freely right away. What does it say about the client who needs to be ask for the money?
 

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From my experience, if an SP asks for the donation right up front it means she only cares about the money and cares less on the service. If it is an SP who never even mentions about the donation, this means she is more interested in the service and less about the money.
Reality check. The SP does not care at all about the service if there is no fee. Now I have seen many girls who provide great service, with both a physical and mental connection, who take a great deal of pride in providing a great experience. But that encounter would never have happened if there were no financial compensation. As I said 3 years ago when this thread started, providing payment up front lets her relax and let her guard down a bit. All women, sex professionals included, get much more into sex when stress and worry is minimized and trust is maximized.
 

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From my experience, if an SP asks for the donation right up front it means she only cares about the money and cares less on the service. If it is an SP who never even mentions about the donation, this means she is more interested in the service and less about the money.
Mate it's all about the money, your responsibility is to provide it right away so she doesnt have to ask. She provides a service - pay up front.
 
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