Immigration from incompatible cultures

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

One only needs to see the reaction of Muslims when depicting the Phophet in a negative light by cartoon. I'd say that is proof of a lack of free speech values. Another hallmark of Western Society.

Like the way Christians reacted, including here on TERB when Charlie Kirk was criticized?
And most negative Muslim reactions to negative portrayals of the prophet, isn’t always just about the content of the criticism but about the perceived motive, tone, and historical baggage in those respective countries.

 

[Butler1000]

Like the way Christians reacted, including here on TERB when Charlie Kirk was criticized?
And most negative Muslim reactions to negative portrayals of the prophet, isn’t always just about the content of the criticism but about the perceived motive, tone, and historical baggage in those respective countries.

So you are defending the Charlie Hebdo reaction because you believe, when in Fact muslims occupied parts of Europe, they are repressed?

Wow, you really are uninformed.

And I didn't see assassination attempts, or calls for mass violence or jihad, over Kirk. That us a false equivalence.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

So you are defending the Charlie Hebdo reaction because you believe, when in Fact muslims occupied parts of Europe, they are repressed?

What? Muslims occupied parts of Europe?
What are you even talking about?
I am saying that people like Charlie Hebdo display intolerance by stereotyping all Muslims and Muslims react negatively to that.
I am not defending the violent negative reactions, but the general disdain for the Hebdo types is not unjustified.

And I didn't see assassination attempts, or calls for mass violence or jihad, over Kirk. That us a false equivalence.

Of course you did see it.
We all saw calls for public executions, murder, suppression of free speech etc.,
Go read the Charlie Kirk thread again.

 

[Intrinsic]

One only needs to see the reaction of Muslims when depicting the Phophet in a negative light by cartoon. I'd say that is proof of a lack of free speech values. Another hallmark of Western Society.

OOOF!!! Good one. Can't wait to see his response to that.

 

[Frankfooter]

100% this

But Oatmeal and Frank want you to forget the Muslim stuff and focus on "white" and Christians only. Whereas a lot of non-white Canadians aren't too overly thrilled about Muslims and their nonsense coming to Canada.
Because in Canada our population is fairly diverse at this point and has been for awhile, yet these two want to narrow it down to white people only. But I'll be here to remind them there are non-white Canadians that aren't very thrilled about Muslims and their BS. Oops repeated myself.

Bullshit.

All religions are stupid and there are asshat extremists in all of them.
What is even more stupid is to go on some racist rant saying that its only one that is a problem.

 

[Frankfooter]

OOOF!!! Good one. Can't wait to see his response to that.

Why don't you try mocking the star of David and see how that works out for you.

 

[Intrinsic]

Why don't you try mocking the star of David and see how that works out for you.

I read somewhere it's not actually the Star of David but rather something else, forgot the name.


Regardless, all religions are full of shit and their devout followers are delusional.

 

[Butler1000]

What? Muslims occupied parts of Europe?
What are you even talking about?
I am saying that people like Charlie Hebdo display intolerance by stereotyping all Muslims and Muslims react negatively to that.
I am not defending the violent negative reactions, but the general disdain for the Hebdo types is not unjustified.

Of course you did see it.
We all saw calls for public executions, murder, suppression of free speech etc.,
Go read the Charlie Kirk thread again.

Islam and Europe Timeline (355-1291 A.D.) https://share.google/e7vujIc4w92rZqMf2

Here is an extended point style by year timeline of various incursion and occupation by Muslims of Europe including France and Spain, Portugal and other places. Also where they are driven back.

This is historical fact.

BRIA 20 1 b Muslim Conquests in Europe - Online Lessons - Bill of Rights in Action - Teach Democracy https://share.google/T9B9K0sZSZjoWQEw6

Here is a another synopsis.

I await your reply.

 

[mandrill]

Islam and Europe Timeline (355-1291 A.D.) https://share.google/e7vujIc4w92rZqMf2

Here is an extended point style by year timeline of various incursion and occupation by Muslims of Europe including France and Spain, Portugal and other places. Also where they are driven back.

This is historical fact.

BRIA 20 1 b Muslim Conquests in Europe - Online Lessons - Bill of Rights in Action - Teach Democracy https://share.google/T9B9K0sZSZjoWQEw6

Here is a another synopsis.

I await your reply.

We did the same thing to them, Buddy, in the Crusades and other anti Muslim wars throughout the Middle Ages.

And then we conquered them in the Victorian colonial period.

If you're going to rely on a list of shit that happened in 1054 AD, you look a little silly.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Islam and Europe Timeline (355-1291 A.D.) https://share.google/e7vujIc4w92rZqMf2

Here is an extended point style by year timeline of various incursion and occupation by Muslims of Europe including France and Spain, Portugal and other places. Also where they are driven back.

This is historical fact.

BRIA 20 1 b Muslim Conquests in Europe - Online Lessons - Bill of Rights in Action - Teach Democracy https://share.google/T9B9K0sZSZjoWQEw6

Here is a another synopsis.

I await your reply.

You mean 1000 years ago? So colonialism didn't happen?
And what does that have to do with Muslim immigrants in Canada?
You are not making sense.

 

[Butler1000]

You mean 1000 years ago? So colonialism didn't happen?
And what does that have to do with Muslim immigrants in Canada?
You are not making sense.

They have never given up on it. We just beat them back. The point stands.

Your issue is you are so ready to give anyone the victim label you refuse to see other things.

 

[Frankfooter]

They have never given up on it. We just beat them back. The point stands.

Your issue is you are so ready to give anyone the victim label you refuse to see other things.

Don't forget to argue that the Romans are going to take over England soon and that the Mongols are going to take over all of Eastern Europe and Russia.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

They have never given up on it. We just beat them back. The point stands.
Your issue is you are so ready to give anyone the victim label you refuse to see other things.

I will ignore the historical revisionism and false narrative there and get to the point of the discussion.
I asked you what Muslim invasions from 1000 years ago, has to do with Muslim immigration to Canada?
You haven't been able to articulate anything.
At this point you aren't even bobbing and weaving around the question, you are jumping buildings like Spiderman. lmfao.

 

[Butler1000]

I will ignore the historical revisionism and false narrative there and get to the point of the discussion.
I asked you what Muslim invasions from 1000 years ago, has to do with Muslim immigration to Canada?
You haven't been able to articulate anything.
At this point you aren't even bobbing and weaving around the question, you are jumping buildings like Spiderman. lmfao.

In 1000 years Muslims haven't evolved. Same Islamo-fascism doctrine. That is the point. It's a cult, very MAGA. Allegiance to Dear Leader. Homophobic, Misogynist, Pro Perpetual War, no quarter given, all non believers are Infidels to be taxed and eventually wiped out. No room for other religions. Anti Capitatist. Anti Free Speech.

It's all there. They represent about 25% of the world population. They are not a minority. They have a very different idea of how to govern.

That is the point. The West is an evolving entity, always considering freedom of expression first, freedom of choice first, freedom of belief first. Just like we don't tolerate Nazis we shouldn't tolerate those who believe the above. Muslims do believe these things. Extremists push it, and the moderates let them and go along with it.

They are in essence, a very real threat to Liberal Secular Democracy. And if you really are a supporter, and just a victim mentality apologist, you would call out there Anti Liberal biases. State their belief system is flawed, just as you do to Evangelicals, and realize the threat.

No false narrative. That is history.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

In 1000 years Muslims haven't evolved. Same Islamo-fascism doctrine. That is the point. It's a cult, very MAGA. Allegiance to Dear Leader. Homophobic, Misogynist, Pro Perpetual War, no quarter given, all non believers are Infidels to be taxed and eventually wiped out. No room for other religions. Anti Capitatist. Anti Free Speech.

It's all there. They represent about 25% of the world population. They are not a minority. They have a very different idea of how to govern.

That is the point. The West is an evolving entity, always considering freedom of expression first, freedom of choice first, freedom of belief first. Just like we don't tolerate Nazis we shouldn't tolerate those who believe the above. Muslims do believe these things. Extremists push it, and the moderates let them and go along with it.

They are in essence, a very real threat to Liberal Secular Democracy. And if you really are a supporter, and just a victim mentality apologist, you would call out there Anti Liberal biases. State their belief system is flawed, just as you do to Evangelicals, and realize the threat.

No false narrative. That is history.

That statement is an oversimplification and ignores reality.
Muslims are diverse - culturally, politically, and religiously.
The idea that all Muslims hold identical ‘Islamo-fascist’ views ignores the fact that most Muslim-majority nations and communities function within pluralistic systems, and many Muslims actively support democracy, free speech, and coexistence.
You’re making sweeping generalizations without evidence.
If you want to make a credible case, you need to clearly define what makes a Muslim immigrant incompatible and provide real-world examples rather than relying on broad rhetoric.

 

[Butler1000]

That statement is an oversimplification and ignores reality.
Muslims are diverse - culturally, politically, and religiously.
The idea that all Muslims hold identical ‘Islamo-fascist’ views ignores the fact that most Muslim-majority nations and communities function within pluralistic systems, and many Muslims actively support democracy, free speech, and coexistence.
You’re making sweeping generalizations without evidence.
If you want to make a credible case, you need to clearly define what makes a Muslim immigrant incompatible and provide real-world examples rather than relying on broad rhetoric.

(PDF) A Religion like No Other: Islam and the Limits of Multiculturalism in Canada https://share.google/fMt3FSuk8c6XlgYI9

A discussion from Ryerson University about how multiculturalism is not compatible with tolerance of Islam as they are not tolerant themselves.

That is the basic premise. You are tolerating a belief system that doesn't return respect for ypu and your beliefs.

Here is a simple question. Would you want yourself and your daughters to live under Sharia Law in Saudi Arabia?

 

[Ramez_alam]

1. Who hurt Butler1000? Seriously... what makes him behave like this.
2. Does he know what 'Sharia law' is?
3. Has he read a book which contains the Sharia law? [Hint: it doesn't exist]
4. Why isn't he restricting himself to posting reviews on this beautiful board? (the real reason he is here)
5. Why doesn't he think that the Asian racist from Alberta in that twitter clip on Page 1 (himself of an immigrant origin) is wrong?

 

[Frankfooter]

In 1000 years Muslims haven't evolved.

Its so true, they still don't use electricity, telephones, cells, computers or even cars.
My gord, this conversation has some really stupid assertions.

 

[Butler1000]

1. Who hurt Butler1000? Seriously... what makes him behave like this.
2. Does he know what 'Sharia law' is?
3. Has he read a book which contains the Sharia law? [Hint: it doesn't exist]
4. Why isn't he restricting himself to posting reviews on this beautiful board? (the real reason he is here)
5. Why doesn't he think that the Asian racist from Alberta in that twitter clip on Page 1 (himself of an immigrant origin) is wrong?

Behave like what? Expressing an opinion about a belief system? It's called free speech. But followers of Islam choose to hurt people in the name of Allah. What's wrong with pointing that out?
Sharia Law is the doctrine of Islam. A system of laws and governance to tell Muslims how to live their lives, and treat others who don't believe in Islam.
The Book is the Koran.
Why do I have to restrict myself to reviews? I also post about cooking, shows, to people seeking advice about life and problems they are having, about sports, and travel. This site isn't just about pooning. It's like Playboy of old with lots of articles. I've learned things, argued things, shared in joys, triumphs, as well as laughed at failures and follies. The membership is eclectic, and due to the hobby cost, well educated in positions of information. And quite diverse in opinions.

That's healthy. Cripes it's the internet, lighten up!

Oh and judging from a lack of accent I'd say he is at least second generation, likely from the 1979 Boat People wave, that created the refugee system. As you can see he also FULLY ASSIMILATED as a Canadian, and sees out values and culture as better. That's the difference. Good immigrants come to be Canadian, bad ones ghetto themselves and seek to change Canada into what they left behind.

I love good cultural food, music, art. Bring it here so I can enjoy it. Leave behind politics, religious doctrine, old grievances, wars, and yes, poor cultural practices.

 

[Frankfooter]

But followers of Islam choose to hurt people in the name of Allah.

like this?

Bush: God told me to invade Iraq

President 'revealed reasons for war in private meeting'

www.independent.co.uk