Immigration from incompatible cultures

Frankfooter

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Sure it's possible. Until they are the majority. Then the Sharia law comes in. Because the extremists want it and the moderates go along with it.

Thematic the general history of most of these nations. And the future has yet to be written on the rest

They are not a persecuted minority. They are a persecuting majority.
Sort of like when right wingers become the majority and turn the US or Hungary fascist?
Or more like in Russia?
 

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Sure, they don't want their culture and values changed and crapped on. Can't blame them for vocalizing their beliefs.

Imagine Christian Eastern European people going to India and behaving in ways that was not anything like the culture in India, now let's say there are over 800,000 people doing this.
How would Indians react? Probably not overly happy or thrilled, insulted that people are doing this in their country.

Do you see how this works?

Japanese don't want it, because they see what's going on in Canada and the U.S. so they're letting their voices be heard now.
 

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None of these statements are remotely true.
Oh but they are true. Defend who you want to defend, you're entitled to, but it doesn't mean you are correct.
As I said in my very first statement the only ones incompatible are the MAGA, maple MAGA and great replacement Nazi types who are poisoning the minds of the youth and have been instrumental in cultural regression of the west.
That's your belief and you can believe whatever you want, just like Muslims believe their prophet flew in on a white horse with wings. It's a belief.


You want to talk about poisoning the minds of the youth? How about teachers telling their young students it's okay to believe that they're the opposite sex, or to have some pronoun to feel "different", how about teaching them about sex at very young ages?
Listen to this Youtuber explain exactly what's going on in schools in North America and you said it best "cultural regression" having weirdo teachers teaching kids.
5:50 is a part of the video to hear the explanation.
Angry Father EXPLODES On Trans Activists...
I dont know what that proves for you, but okay.
It's not proving anything to me, but it should open your own eyes to the fact that fascism exists in all countries and for reasons that are close to their homes.
If 800,000+ Christians were to go to a Muslim country and practice their religion, do their rituals, let's even say for the sake or argument one of their rituals was to pray 8 times a day on a piece of carpet facing north, genuflecting for 20 minutes to the sky. Add to that the Christians have no respect for the culture or law in said country, people protesting against those Christians should be "fascist" then according to you and by your admitting that they do exist.

There is strong hypocrisy with you. Your posting of your opinions show it.

That said it's good to see that you admitted fascism exist in other countries, but is it really fascism or patriotism, nationalism? Keep the example of Christians going to a Muslim country in mind when you ask yourself this.
 

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Sure, they don't want their culture and values changed and crapped on. Can't blame them for vocalizing their beliefs.

Imagine Christian Eastern European people going to India and behaving in ways that was not anything like the culture in India, now let's say there are over 800,000 people doing this.
How would Indians react? Probably not overly happy or thrilled, insulted that people are doing this in their country.

Do you see how this works?

Japanese don't want it, because they see what's going on in Canada and the U.S. so they're letting their voices be heard now.
Sounds like you'd be happier here than in Canada.
 
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You want to talk about poisoning the minds of the youth? How about teachers telling their young students it's okay to believe that they're the opposite sex, or to have some pronoun to feel "different", how about teaching them about sex at very young ages?
Gay people have been around forever.
You think telling them its wrong will make them stop being gay?
 
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Oh but they are true.
No, they are objectively not true.
That's your belief...
No, that is not a belief.
It is a statement of fact.
Lying, grifting, pushing misinformation and disinformation, engaging in stochastic terrorism, to poison the minds of the youth, is a uniquely right wing tactic to influence impressionable youth.
How about teachers telling their young students it's okay to believe that they're the opposite sex, or to have some pronoun to feel "different"
They are correct in teaching kids that sex and gender identity are not the same things.
They are also correct in teaching kids about gender dysphoria.
, how about teaching them about sex at very young ages?
What do you mean teaching sex?
Do they play pornography in classes?
Do they teach them how to give blowjobs and handjobs in class, explicitly?
They do not.
Again, untrue statements.
Listen to this Youtuber explain exactly what's going on in schools in North America and you said it best "cultural regression" having weirdo teachers teaching kids.
5:50 is a part of the video to hear the explanation.
Angry Father EXPLODES On Trans Activists...
I scrolled to around the 6 minute mark and the guy says "Trans people commit more mass shootings than regular people do".
I am going to challenge you to provide evidence for the same, as you will find that the majority of mass shootings are committed by straight, white men.
That right there was a lie and this guy is just another MAGA reactionary.
You don't have to waste time listening to anymore of his diatribe.
It's not proving anything to me, but it should open your own eyes to the fact that fascism exists in all countries and for reasons that are close to their homes.
As I said, does not prove anything at all
Fascism in foreign nations, does not justify fascism here in Canada or in the west more generally.
If 800,000+ Christians were to go to a Muslim country and practice their religion, do their rituals, let's even say for the sake or argument one of their rituals was to pray 8 times a day on a piece of carpet facing north, genuflecting for 20 minutes to the sky. Add to that the Christians have no respect for the culture or law in said country, people protesting against those Christians should be "fascist" then according to you and by your admitting that they do exist.
Yes, they would be fascist if they did not allow religious freedoms for Christians or in other ways discriminated against them or subjected them to violence for their race, religion or what have you.
There are different types of fascisms and some hardline, religious, ultra conservative Islamic republics are also fascist.
That does not as I said before, justify fascism here, in Canada, which is a secular liberal democracy.
There is strong hypocrisy with you. Your posting of your opinions show it.
You have not provided any evidence of what is hypocritical.
You only asked if fascism exists elsewhere and I said, it does.
I am also saying that fascism existing elsewhere does not justify fascism HERE.
That would be the opposite of hypocritical.
but is it really fascism or patriotism, nationalism? Keep the example of Christians going to a Muslim country in mind when you ask yourself this.
As I answered before, it is fascism.
The Canada First, America First, MAGA, maple MAGA, Christian nationalist idiots are not nationalists or patriots.
They are fascists.
They are no different from hardline Islamic extremists, or hardline Hindu nationalists, or what have you.
Their values are treasonous, and incompatible with western or Canadian values.
 
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As I answered before, it is fascism.
The Canada First, America First, MAGA, maple MAGA, Christian nationalist idiots are not nationalists or patriots.
They are fascists.
They are no different from hardline Islamic extremists, or hardline Hindu nationalists, or what have you.
Their values are treasonous, and incompatible with western or Canadian values.
Its crazy how similar Maga is to religious extremists, they are against LGBTQ, equal rights, diversity, free speech and women's rights.
Now they seem to be even against democracy.
 

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No, they are objectively not true.

No, that is not a belief.
It is a statement of fact.
Lying, grifting, pushing misinformation and disinformation, engaging in stochastic terrorism, to poison the minds of the youth, is a uniquely right wing tactic to influence impressionable youth.

They are correct in teaching kids that sex and gender identity are not the same things.
They are also correct in teaching kids about gender dysphoria.

What do you mean teaching sex?
Do they play pornography in classes?
Do they teach them how to give blowjobs and handjobs in class, explicitly?
They do not.
Again, untrue statements.

I scrolled to around the 6 minute mark and the guy says "Trans people commit more mass shootings than regular people do".
I am going to challenge you to provide evidence for the same, as you will find that the majority of mass shootings are committed by straight, white men.
That right there was a lie and this guy is just another MAGA reactionary.
You don't have to waste time listening to anymore of his diatribe.

As I said, does not prove anything at all
Fascism in foreign nations, does not justify fascism here in Canada or in the west more generally.

Yes, they would be fascist if they did not allow religious freedoms for Christians or in other ways discriminated against them or subjected them to violence for their race, religion or what have you.
There are different types of fascisms and some hardline, religious, ultra conservative Islamic republics are also fascist.
That does not as I said before, justify fascism here, in Canada, which is a secular liberal democracy.

You have not provided any evidence of what is hypocritical.
You only asked if fascism exists elsewhere and I said, it does.
I am also saying that fascism existing elsewhere does not justify fascism HERE.
That would be the opposite of hypocritical.

As I answered before, it is fascism.
The Canada First, America First, MAGA, maple MAGA, Christian nationalist idiots are not nationalists or patriots.
They are fascists.
They are no different from hardline Islamic extremists, or hardline Hindu nationalists, or what have you.
Their values are treasonous, and incompatible with western or Canadian values.

Opinions vary, you have yours others have theirs.

Nothing about fascists in other countries is supposed to make anything exempt in other countries, the point that you're not getting is, IT EXISTS and if the people don't like it, maybe go back to where you came from?
Canada has had a fairly good track record with a mix of people for decades and decades, now suddenly something has change drastically. Maybe be a little more open minded and see at what exactly is going on and pissing off Canadians of all races and colour in regards to the 800,000+ immigrants from India.

It's not that complicated, you just have to be honest about it.


Did you catch this tweet by a non-white Canadian and his thoughts about what's going on?
 

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Its crazy how similar Maga is to religious extremists, they are against LGBTQ, equal rights, diversity, free speech and women's rights.
Now they seem to be even against democracy.
Speaking of religious extremists, do Muslims believe in killing those who do not believe in Allah?
 

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That is why they are fascists.
Christian nationalists are just the Christian Taliban.
You do realize that also exactly describes how Muslims feel about things right? And the fact you yourself refer to Christians with a "Taliban" adjective proves it. You didn't even realize you did it.

Islam is just another form of fascism.
 

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Opinions vary, you have yours others have theirs.
It is not an opinion.
What I said were statements of fact.
I also noticed how you conveniently ignored everything else in that post.
Nothing about fascists in other countries is supposed to make anything exempt in other countries, the point that you're not getting is, IT EXISTS and if the people don't like it, maybe go back to where you came from?
Fascism is never justifiable or acceptable.
No body whether they be citizens or immigrants should accept fascism which seeks to erode democratic values and suppress civil rights for targeted groups.
Canada has had a fairly good track record with a mix of people for decades and decades, now suddenly something has change drastically. Maybe be a little more open minded and see at what exactly is going on and pissing off Canadians of all races and colour in regards to the 800,000+ immigrants from India.
It is untrue that the majority of Canadians are all "pissed off" about immigrants.
The majority of Canadians acknowledge that there has been lots of immigration, particularly temporary foreign workers.
The majority are not pissed off about them though.
That is just the maple MAGA crowd.
If the majority were that pissed off, Pierre wouldn't have lost his own seat after holding a 20 point lead over the liberals.
Did you catch this tweet by a non-white Canadian and his thoughts about what's going on?
I will say the same thing I told another user.
Don't try to use a non-white person's social media post about immigrants justify bigotry.
Anybody can be a bigot.
And yes, I know this rage baiter from Alberta and have seen his tweet way before.
His big issue is that Toronto has lots of Indian immigrants, and that the airport is full of Indian employees.
Maybe he should take your advice and go back to where he came from to Alberta if he is that upset about it.
How about Muslims who say that "non believers" should be killed? A little extreme or nah?
Hardline Muslims are of course extreme.
Fortunately for us, the majority of our Muslim citizens and immigrants don't say that.
 

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And the fact you yourself refer to Christians with a "Taliban" adjective proves it. You didn't even realize you did it.
Islam is just another form of fascism.
Haha.
This is such a Freudian slip.
I said Christian nationalists - extremists - are akin to the Taliban - extremists. Not Christians.
But you immediately jumped to “Islam is fascism,” as if all Muslims are Taliban. That says more about your bias than my comment.
 
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Haha.
This is such a Freudian slip.
I said Christian nationalists - extremists - are akin to the Taliban - extremists. Not Christians.
But you immediately jumped to “Islam is fascism,” as if all Muslims are Taliban. That says more about your bias than my comment.
Islam is more than a religion. It's also a system of government. Authoritarian. It is misogynist, homophobic, violent, and anti democracy.

So yes, I have a bias against a belief system that espouses these things. Why don't you?
 

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Authoritarian. It is misogynist, homophobic, violent, and anti democracy.
All of that is true about Christianity, as well.
The difference is in how Muslims (or Christians) practice their religion.
The vast majority of Muslims and Christians in Canada, and in general around the world, are just regular people.
 
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All of that is true about Christianity, as well.
The difference is in how Muslims (or Christians) practice their religion.
The vast majority of Muslims and Christians in Canada, and in general around the world, are just regular people.
I agree, religion has no place in government. So stop defending one and vilifying the other.
 
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