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Butler1000

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Then your earlier comment about not vilifying religions is meaningless.
Sure it does. Happy to say many Evangelicals are at the least smug and self righteous. And can also get a crusader mentality going as well.

A secular liberal society allows space for worship on the home and an actual place of worship. It has no place in law, or the streets as a means of control, intimidation, or otherwise.

That is why the 10 commandments don't belong in court houses, and Sharia Law doesn't belong on the books.

Muslims however don't believe that, nor do Evangelicals. So they are the same in that.
 
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Not a chance. Not until they at least have a Reformation and do a King James do over of the Koran. Until then they are a bunch of backward 8th century cult followers.
I've met a fuckuvalot more Muslims than you have and that statement is categorically fucking false and borders on hate speech.
 

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Sure it does. Happy to say many Evangelicals are at the least smug and self righteous. And can also get a crusader mentality going as well.

A secular liberal society allows space for worship on the home and an actual place of worship. It has no place in law, or the streets as a means of control, intimidation, or otherwise.

That is why the 10 commandments don't belong in court houses, and Sharia Law doesn't belong on the books.

Muslims however don't believe that, nor do Evangelicals. So they are the same in that.
100% this

But Oatmeal and Frank want you to forget the Muslim stuff and focus on "white" and Christians only. Whereas a lot of non-white Canadians aren't too overly thrilled about Muslims and their nonsense coming to Canada.
Because in Canada our population is fairly diverse at this point and has been for awhile, yet these two want to narrow it down to white people only. But I'll be here to remind them there are non-white Canadians that aren't very thrilled about Muslims and their BS. Oops repeated myself.
 
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Most support Sharia Law.
That is just pure conjecture and not the truth.
You have to to believe.
That is just a convenient narrative you have created for yourself.
One can be a Muslim and not believe in any hardline interpretation of Sharia, or Sharia itself, just like there are devout Christians who support LGBTQ rights or don't live by the 10 commandments.
To not do so is to say the Koran and the Word of God is flawed.
Sharia is interpreted differently everywhere, and it can very well coexist within a democracy.
It seems to me that you have a half baked and reductive understanding of both the religion and its followers in general. Put in one word, it sounds like it is ignorance.
 

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That is just pure conjecture and not the truth.

That is just a convenient narrative you have created for yourself.
One can be a Muslim and not believe in any hardline interpretation of Sharia, or Sharia itself, just like there are devout Christians who support LGBTQ rights or don't live by the 10 commandments.

Sharia is interpreted differently everywhere, and it can very well coexist within a democracy.
It seems to me that you have a half baked and reductive understanding of both the religion and its followers in general. Put in one word, it sounds like it is ignorance.
Lol. When most Muslim nations are Sharia law nations, seems quite clear to me. When the cradle of it is Saudi Arabia, one of the most repressive regimes on the planet, it becomes more clear.
 

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That is just pure conjecture and not the truth.

That is just a convenient narrative you have created for yourself.
One can be a Muslim and not believe in any hardline interpretation of Sharia, or Sharia itself, just like there are devout Christians who support LGBTQ rights or don't live by the 10 commandments.

Sharia is interpreted differently everywhere, and it can very well coexist within a democracy.
It seems to me that you have a half baked and reductive understanding of both the religion and its followers in general. Put in one word, it sounds like it is ignorance.
Sharia can't coexist within a Western democracy, do you want some videos of Imams talking about Western culture?


Seems like you have ignorance and hypocrisy in your corner bud. :)
 

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Lol. When most Muslim nations are Sharia law nations, seems quite clear to me. When the cradle of it is Saudi Arabia, one of the most repressive regimes on the planet, it becomes more clear.
Those Muslim nations are repressive not due to Sharia law, but due to their respective governments and many other reasons.
As I pointed out there are Muslim nations that are democratic as well.
As I also pointed out, the more relevant bit to the subject of the thread are the Muslims who live here in Canada that are well integrated and live in a secular, liberal democracy and continue to want to do so.
 

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Those Muslim nations are repressive not due to Sharia law, but due to their respective governments and many other reasons.
As I pointed out there are Muslim nations that are democratic as well.
As I also pointed out, the more relevant bit to the subject of the thread are the Muslims who live here in Canada that are well integrated and live in a secular, liberal democracy and continue to want to do so.
One only needs to see the reaction of Muslims when depicting the Phophet in a negative light by cartoon. I'd say that is proof of a lack of free speech values. Another hallmark of Western Society.
 
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Sharia can't coexist within a Western democracy, do you want some videos of Imams talking about Western culture?
Seems like you have ignorance and hypocrisy in your corner bud. :)
Sharia is interpreted differently in different nations. It can very well coexist with democracy and there are many examples.
 
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One only needs to see the reaction of Muslims when depicting the Phophet in a negative light by cartoon. I'd say that is proof of a lack of free speech values. Another hallmark of Western Society.
Like the way Christians reacted, including here on TERB when Charlie Kirk was criticized?
And most negative Muslim reactions to negative portrayals of the prophet, isn’t always just about the content of the criticism but about the perceived motive, tone, and historical baggage in those respective countries.
 

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Like the way Christians reacted, including here on TERB when Charlie Kirk was criticized?
And most negative Muslim reactions to negative portrayals of the prophet, isn’t always just about the content of the criticism but about the perceived motive, tone, and historical baggage in those respective countries.
So you are defending the Charlie Hebdo reaction because you believe, when in Fact muslims occupied parts of Europe, they are repressed?

Wow, you really are uninformed.

And I didn't see assassination attempts, or calls for mass violence or jihad, over Kirk. That us a false equivalence.
 

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So you are defending the Charlie Hebdo reaction because you believe, when in Fact muslims occupied parts of Europe, they are repressed?
What? Muslims occupied parts of Europe?
What are you even talking about?
I am saying that people like Charlie Hebdo display intolerance by stereotyping all Muslims and Muslims react negatively to that.
I am not defending the violent negative reactions, but the general disdain for the Hebdo types is not unjustified.
And I didn't see assassination attempts, or calls for mass violence or jihad, over Kirk. That us a false equivalence.
Of course you did see it.
We all saw calls for public executions, murder, suppression of free speech etc.,
Go read the Charlie Kirk thread again.
 
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One only needs to see the reaction of Muslims when depicting the Phophet in a negative light by cartoon. I'd say that is proof of a lack of free speech values. Another hallmark of Western Society.
OOOF!!! Good one. Can't wait to see his response to that.
 

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100% this

But Oatmeal and Frank want you to forget the Muslim stuff and focus on "white" and Christians only. Whereas a lot of non-white Canadians aren't too overly thrilled about Muslims and their nonsense coming to Canada.
Because in Canada our population is fairly diverse at this point and has been for awhile, yet these two want to narrow it down to white people only. But I'll be here to remind them there are non-white Canadians that aren't very thrilled about Muslims and their BS. Oops repeated myself.
Bullshit.

All religions are stupid and there are asshat extremists in all of them.
What is even more stupid is to go on some racist rant saying that its only one that is a problem.
 
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Why don't you try mocking the star of David and see how that works out for you.
I read somewhere it's not actually the Star of David but rather something else, forgot the name.


Regardless, all religions are full of shit and their devout followers are delusional.
 
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Butler1000

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What? Muslims occupied parts of Europe?
What are you even talking about?
I am saying that people like Charlie Hebdo display intolerance by stereotyping all Muslims and Muslims react negatively to that.
I am not defending the violent negative reactions, but the general disdain for the Hebdo types is not unjustified.

Of course you did see it.
We all saw calls for public executions, murder, suppression of free speech etc.,
Go read the Charlie Kirk thread again.
Islam and Europe Timeline (355-1291 A.D.) https://share.google/e7vujIc4w92rZqMf2

Here is an extended point style by year timeline of various incursion and occupation by Muslims of Europe including France and Spain, Portugal and other places. Also where they are driven back.

This is historical fact.

BRIA 20 1 b Muslim Conquests in Europe - Online Lessons - Bill of Rights in Action - Teach Democracy https://share.google/T9B9K0sZSZjoWQEw6

Here is a another synopsis.

I await your reply.
 
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