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Shaquille Oatmeal

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First off, the Toronto land acknowledgement statement on the beginning of their website might give you an idea of the political biases of the John Howard Society.
This is customary in Canada and sounds more like you are attacking their supposed political leanings because you are unable to argue against the information in the document.
This weakens your position.
My point of who determines what is over-policing still stands.
Civilian oversight bodies usually.
Am sure the US has them.
A community has to find what they consider the optimal amount of police. Like it or not, the amount of police is generally determined by voter sentiment. Criticizing over-policing is often a political slogan of the left. It's a not so distant cousin to defund the police. It doesn't offer much clarity.
Voter sentiment is one of many that determine policing levels even if it isn't entirely correct.
Over policing is an actual problem, and nothing to do with the left. It is documented - see my link above.
The polling bears out that urban residents want more police. Of course polling is only one indicator of voter sentiment. If urban Mayors and city councils commit to increasing the number of policemen they should be held to that commitment.
As you know pollsters lean one way or another and it depends who conducts such polling and what messaging they want to put out.
A better indicator would be to listen to actual civilian oversight bodies that can could help determine adequate but not excessive policing needs.
 
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This is customary in Canada and sounds more like you are attacking their supposed political leanings because you are unable to argue against the information in the document.
This weakens your position.

Civilian oversight bodies usually.
Am sure the US has them.

Voter sentiment is one of many that determine policing levels even if it isn't entirely correct.
Over policing is an actual problem, and nothing to do with the left. It is documented - see my link above.

As you know pollsters lean one way or another and it depends who conducts such polling and what messaging they want to put out.
A better indicator would be to listen to actual civilian oversight bodies that can could help determine adequate but not excessive policing needs.
I think you are too impressed with your own argument skills. You need to recognize the right amount of policing is almost entirely subjective. Arguing about it is futile and no amount of position papers is going to add objective clarity to the matter.

PS- I read more than just the land acknowledgement of the John Howard Society. I believe that JHS has a leftward political bias. Again, that's just an opinion. However, I generally don't hold out the positions of NGOs on TERB since I don't think they come without bias.
 
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A good responsible and informative take on things.

Apparently he was involved in an internet death cult.
Even that reporter says she has nothing to base that on other than online chatter and says it is at least something worth digging into.
That's far from "Apparently" at this point.

It's certainly possible, since it does sound like the shooter was the sort of target 764 might go after.
 

Valcazar

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bver_hunter

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You have a problem with guns but not the mental health...guns don't kill people...people kill people...
Give a dog a gun and it won't kill anybody...give a pig a gun and it won't kill anybody...
the only exception...
Guns don't kill people? Can you tell us then why is it that The USA has the highest per capita guns and the highest number of killings by guns be it schools or other mass killings among the advanced nations? Are you saying that it is because the USA has the highest "Mental Health" cases?
Your logic is a real cartoon movie when you throw dogs and pigs into the mix!! :p :D:LOL::ROFLMAO:
 

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You're proposing banning trans people from owning guns?..That's one of your better ideas come to think about it.
Three trans individuals that were involved in the mass shootings versus hundreds of cis gender individuals over the years, then it means that there should be a restriction of gun sales period.
Otherwise can you explain why the USA who have the highest per capita of guns as well as the highest mass school and other shootings among the developed nations?
Of course you will not respond and as usual side step this question!!
 

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I think you are too impressed with your own argument skills. You need to recognize the right amount of policing is almost entirely subjective. Arguing about it is futile and no amount of position papers is going to add objective clarity to the matter.

PS- I read more than just the land acknowledgement of the John Howard Society. I believe that JHS has a leftward political bias. Again, that's just an opinion. However, I generally don't hold out the positions of NGOs on TERB since I don't think they come without bias.
Is the right amount of policing spending a few more billion on ICE and detention centres?
You wouldn't want to do an Australia on guns and just reduce gun deaths that way, that's an attack on the freedom to own people killing guns.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Would Oracle have started this thread if it was the usual right wing wacko who shot up the school?
No, we have you guys on the Left doing that.
So please allow us to point out left-wing violence as well, just to balance things out.

This "woman" was LGBT and clearly anti Trump. This is what "she" wrote on her rifle

 
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On the slopes of Mount Parnassus, Greece
Three trans individuals that were involved in the mass shootings versus hundreds of cis gender individuals over the years, then it means that there should be a restriction of gun sales period.
Otherwise can you explain why the USA who have the highest per capita of guns as well as the highest mass school and other shootings among the developed nations?
Of course you will not respond and as usual side step this question!!
''Cis'' is just a made up word.

This whole trans thing is a just social contagion that the leftists have exploited to corrupt the psyche of individuals affected with body dysmorphic disorder and questioned sexual preference.

There's no accepted definition for the term ''mass shootings''

Good luck trying to challenge the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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''Cis'' is just a made up word.
All words are made up words. Language itself is made up by humans.
This whole trans thing is a just social contagion...
No it is not.
MAGA/maple MAGA on the other hand very much is.
...the leftists have exploited to corrupt the psyche of individuals affected with body dimorphic disorder and questioned sexual preference.
Body dimorphic disorder is when a person obsesses over flaws in their body.
Trans individuals experience gender dysphoria.
They are not the same.
I dont even know what "questioned sexual preference" is supposed to mean. It is just sexual preference.
You are consistently wrong and unscientific.
There's no accepted definition for the term ''mass shootings''
There is. It has already been explained to you in this thread.
Good luck trying to challenge the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.
Gun control does not challenge the 2A.
That is just a lie the NRA likes to push.
 

Frankfooter

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''Cis'' is just a made up word.

This whole trans thing is a just social contagion that the leftists have exploited to corrupt the psyche of individuals affected with body dimorphic disorder and questioned sexual preference.

There's no accepted definition for the term ''mass shootings''

Good luck trying to challenge the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.
I agree its social contagion, but its right wingers that are the freaks that think its a major issue when its just a tiny part of the population.

 
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