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Canadians are not going to let the NDP get their hands on the federal public purse
Former NDP leader Tom Mulcair tells Canadians not to vote NDP
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Did most people jump ship when the Cons and Reform merged?
Those were different policy views as well.
But they had become convinced they could never win an election if they stayed split.
That is not the current NDP / Liberal situation.
I'm not talking "forced", I'm talking people deciding to merge for strategic reasons due to the nature of the First Past the Post system.
Were there former leaders as paid CBC analysts?
Meh.
This all looks like very typical plurality voting tactics to me.
You are being kind of pretentious now. Cons and Reform were always the same thing. They stem directly from the same Party. The NDP are a Socialist party, The Liberals are not. They don't stem from the same parties.
Being an Analyst makes it worse because he should be neutral on the subject.
Bingo! It's stop the nasty asparagus-smelling Pee Pee at all costs. Merge and flourish with a dose of strategic voting.
There will always be an NDP but they will be down to a few seats for now. The only way they are somewhat spared an embarrassing loss is if the Conservatives are close to a landslide and NDP voters decide it's not worth propping up the Libs to take out the devil.
I didn't realize Pee Pee was such a good diver.
Lets send him down with a good tune, all together now
Piss PissFlush Flush
OH, WHAT A RELIEF IT IS.
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It won't end well. As I've stated, they are very different Parties and a Party can't serve two masters.Bingo! It's stop the nasty asparagus-smelling Pee Pee at all costs. Merge and flourish with a dose of strategic voting.
There will always be an NDP but they will be down to a few seats for now. The only way they are somewhat spared an embarrassing loss is if the Conservatives are close to a landslide and NDP voters decide it's not worth propping up the Libs to take out the devil.
I didn't realize Pee Pee was such a good diver.
Lets send him down with a good tune, all together now
Flush Flush
OH, WHAT A RELIEF IT IS.
Just look what ended up happening to Trudeau. Liberals resent him now after championing him for ten years.
Not every election is going to have a wild card like Trump to save Liberals.
Its a tactic. Strategic voting. France did the same thing to stop the conservatives from winning plurality. Sadly a shift away from democracy and towards totalitarianism.
They dont have to exactly agree on policy in every aspect.
It is enough to want to keep the conservatives out atleast in the short term.
Keyword is distinct.
This is why I will vote Conservative. Like it or Not, Conservatives campaign on policies and plans, Liberals campaign on blocking Conservatives. Liberals have no vision.
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The Liberals have policies.
But this election is about ideology. Not policy.
This not what is going on. The calculus has changed from more worry over domestic politics to more worry over international politics. Especially when it comes to trade.Bingo! It's stop the nasty asparagus-smelling Pee Pee at all costs. Merge and flourish with a dose of strategic voting.
There will always be an NDP but they will be down to a few seats for now. The only way they are somewhat spared an embarrassing loss is if the Conservatives are close to a landslide and NDP voters decide it's not worth propping up the Libs to take out the devil.
I didn't realize Pee Pee was such a good diver.
Lets send him down with a good tune, all together now
Flush Flush
OH, WHAT A RELIEF IT IS.
Carney is seen, as better to deal with getting other trade deals. It really has little to do with "strategic voting". Voters are not that sophisticated. Or that organized.
The next few weeks are going to tell a lot. If things go down hill with Trump, then he may be seen as a liability.
Right now he is enjoying a honeymoon. But these things can turn pretty quickly. Don't count chickens yet.
Which is why I won't vote left anytime soon. Voting for hope is not a plan.
Voting to stop the CPC which is seen as the Canadian equivalent of MAGA, and stopping the far right turn the world is taking from coming to Canada is the most important right now.
All your traitors and quislings are voting CPC.
You'd be voting with them.
That's just a narrative. I won't vote based on fear tactics, especially when Carney himself is very sketchy on details, previous businesses and connections.
policies copied from the conservatives
Liberals have policies not because they believe that is the right direction for the country,
rather Liberals have policies because they believe that those policies will get them elected
therein lies the biggest issue
policy should determine ones ideological view
you foolishly have that reversed
and adopting an ideological view that is predetermined by others is the thinking of a lemming
Tom Mulcair has constantly made excuses for Pee Pee's avoidance of his Security Clearance. His arguments on Vassy Kapelos' Power Play show has shockingly been in favour of the Conservatives more often than any other party. For goodness knows what reasons, he has remortgaged his home 11 times though he lived for free as leader of the opposition, besides getting an annual salary close to $250,000. Anyway, we have to thank Mulcair as originally the Progressives were moving to the Conservatives, but his remarks seem to have pushed them towards The Liberals. Originally, I was okay with the Conservatives being voted in with a minority Government. However, this shift has been seismic towards Mark Carney and The Liberals!!
And?
Plurality voting has specific incentives.
One of those is to coalesce into a two-party system.
Right now, there is insufficient pressure to cause that.
I don't expect it to happen anytime soon.
(You're the one who suggested it in post #7.)
But that you see collapse like this when the threat seems high enough is telling.
If, for whatever reason, it seemed that the way the votes were split across NDP/Liberal meant the Cons could never lose then there would be STRONG pressure for a "Unite the Left" movement that might result in a single party.
It's a consequence of the election system.
I've never seen a CBC analyst be neutral on a subject.
They are brought in for their expertise and opinions.
So you just against these policies because liberals support them, but back them when PeePee does?
If there hadn't been a Liberal resurgence due to the timing of Trump poking the bear just as Carney was taking over, I think a lot of Libs might have gone NDP to stick it to Trudeau but not prop up PP.
The cards played out differently.
LOL.
I'm sorry, tactical voting is a shift towards totalitarianism?
Is that only when it is being used to block parties you like?
I haven't exactly seen you begging for reform of the electoral system.
