American Women Giving up on Marriage

[Patron]

Jen married men don't answer such polls unless their wife asks them to... Hence the favourable response

Fuck. Larry David missed the perfect Curb Your Enthusiasm episode and now it is too late.

They all get asked the happiness question with spouses present and Larry is the only one who says he is unhappy. Cheryl goes nuts over analyzing, and then Larry slips and says that Jeff only said he was happy because Susie was there. Susie is like Jeff What the Fuck.

The international happiness surveys long ago lost any meaning. The Scandinavians win every year even though they are notoriously unfriendly people even to each other. They joked during Covid that have been doing social distancing for decades. Now that they won once, they feel obligated to say they are happy out of patriotism

 

[Robert Mugabe]

Seems they've already given up on giving blowjobs.

 

[Patron]

Seems they've already given up on giving blowjobs.

I for one am going to be an optimist.

And we are going to make a 2025 Christmas movie about this, since last year’s Dear Satan movie about the kid who couldn’t spell and summoned Satan instead of Santa never lived up to its potential.

It is going to be called Boyfriends by Christmas. The rich old woman in the article who said she wanted all of her adult daughters to have boyfriends who can ski and went to good schools is diagnosed with a terminal illness and ups the ante saying she will disinherit any of the three who don’t come through by Christmas.

Sounds from the article that one of the three has found a Suitable Candidate, but the other two might be struggling.

Let’s go with your thought. They sign up for a fellatio class online presumably using a banana thinking that will help. That should horrify prudish American audiences expecting Jesus and/or Santa in their Christmas movie.

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They have trouble finding the required guys, since fewer young men who go to good schools, and some that did were so busy with school then work that they don’t know how to ski. One of the ladies develops a crush on the cute male plumber that practically saved her life (low-brow comedy needs toilet jokes) and she practices some of her new skills on him, but rich old mom will never approve of him.

The movie can be a study of the pros and cons of single life, the struggles of it around Holidays, whether all single men are as bad as these single women in the article say, and whether it is worthwhile for them to try to conform to the expectations of society, represented by rich, old mom.

 

[Patron]

A lot of the time it boils down to who they interact with and meet. Sometimes at certain stages in their life their friends play a role then they move on from those friends too. As for the mom telling all 3 what she wants due to her illness is being selfish especially telling them about the inheritance money not going to them if she doesn't get her way. Not everyone wants to continue the bloodline and some women in general don't even want to be pregnant cause of the pain unless they can afford other means that are available today but once again raising a child is a lot of work especially with how social media is making people these days.

Great idea for a touching ending and self-realization. Plus it will turn out that long-dead dad and rich old mom mortgaged the house to send the daughters to Good Schools and the inheritance is only $10,000 after debts. The movie is really about managing everyone else’s expectations versus your own happiness.

 

[Soccersweeper]

Historically women do not date men that are equals or below them in wealth/status, while men have always dated down because they had to. Hypergamy. As women's incomes have soared and men's have stagnated, fewer men meet the threshold, resulting in even more competition for the men who do. But a portion of those men realize their enhanced value and become players, further reducing the pool of suitable men. We've already seen this play out in various sub groups already, like African Americans where so many men are in jail and so black women earn much more relative to black men compared to white women to white men and are willing to have kids alone. Remember in 2008 when black women were saying "Where's my Obama?"

So the dynamics have changed, women are less willing to satisfy male desires and the market for paid sex has exploded. I'd guess every condo tower downtown has at least 2 working girls in it on average. So we men pay for it one way or another. As the saying goes, "I'm not paying for sex, I'm paying for her to go home after."

 

[Robert Mugabe]

Historically women do not date men that are equals or below them in wealth/status, while men have always dated down because they had to. Hypergamy. As women's incomes have soared and men's have stagnated, fewer men meet the threshold, resulting in even more competition for the men who do. But a portion of those men realize their enhanced value and become players, further reducing the pool of suitable men. We've already seen this play out in various sub groups already, like African Americans where so many men are in jail and so black women earn much more relative to black men compared to white women to white men and are willing to have kids alone. Remember in 2008 when black women were saying "Where's my Obama?"

So the dynamics have changed, women are less willing to satisfy male desires and the market for paid sex has exploded. I'd guess every condo tower downtown has at least 2 working girls in it on average. So we men pay for it one way or another. As the saying goes, "I'm not paying for sex, I'm paying for her to go home after."

So the dynamics have changed, women are less willing to satisfy male desires and the market for paid sex has exploded.

So although that's what the brochure says, it isn't always the case. If you have run into professionals who are also less willing to satisfy male desires.

 

[Fun For All]

We know extremely different types of people. LOL. Not my experience at all. At least with the women I know - men I would agree. 90% of the single men I know are miserable.

We also must know different types of people...90% of single men are miserable? Really? No kidding?

 

[Soccersweeper]

So the dynamics have changed, women are less willing to satisfy male desires and the market for paid sex has exploded.

So although that's what the brochure says, it isn't always the case. If you have run into professionals who are also less willing to satisfy male desires.

There will always be poor customer service providers in any industry, more so when times are booming. But there should also be many more providers. That's where review sites like this come in handy to help the more discriminating connousseur.

 

[Soccersweeper]

And generally if the woman is financially struggling she will marry for money but not show it then leave with half no matter how good the sex seemed as it was all a show. Celebs deal with this type of stuff daily and people dislike losing half of their worth to someone who didn't put the same effort as them. People laugh about older individuals dating younger folks with the typical "fuck boy" mentality where they don't want much else afterwards and it's usually because of what they have witnessed. High profile folks get these young folks to sign NDAs that come with stipulations no different than rich folks having certain demands prior to marriage so the contract states they wanted 2 or 3 kids from the woman when they get married. They live in a black and white type of world and with the amount of money they have they don't care. Their mindset is business orientated lol.

Men need to learn how to cope with being single, alone and happy. Unfortunately, desires and whatnot play factors. And since us men tend not be as social as women I'd suggest guys find local clubs that meet their interests. There are good and bad people out there. It's a matter of getting up and trying and reaching out.

Young men typically prioritize looks and focus on young hotties. As I've aged though the reasons I generally prefer younger women are not the looks (though it's a factor) but because they're more likely to put in the effort to take care of men sexually and try things, whether in traditional dating relationships or paid. I say that though having had a few affairs and preferred escorts and strippers who are older than average and sometimes even older than me. When you find a hungry cougar your best defence is to play with them.

 

[Patron]

We also must know different types of people...90% of single men are miserable? Really? No kidding?

I can’t believe it is that high either, but the principle that Jenesis espoused is supported by a University of Toronto study, authored primarily by a really hot lady. I can’t believe if she stopped and asked Toronto guys if they are happy, they wouldn’t have said, I am now.

New study finds single women are happier than single men

www.artsci.utoronto.ca

I also thing #tradwife marriage gives married, or formerly married, women more things to complain and be unhappy about. This woman is like fucking 90 and still complaining about the purchase of a $3,000 home instead of a $12,000 home by her husband like 70 years ago. You don’t think about the decisions you made seven decades ago if you are single and the one who made those decisions.

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[Jenesis]

We also must know different types of people...90% of single men are miserable? Really? No kidding?

I can’t believe it is that high either, but the principle that Jenesis espoused is supported by a University of Toronto study, authored primarily by a really hot lady. I can’t believe if she stopped and asked Toronto guys if they are happy, they wouldn’t have said, I am now.

New study finds single women are happier than single men

www.artsci.utoronto.ca

90% of the single men I know. I was very clear on that point. Go back and read if you have to.

Not 90% in general. Just the majority that I know personally. And this is not professionally either. I know many single male clients who are very happy.

 

[Patron]

90% of the single men I know. I was very clear on that point. Go back and read if you have to.

Not 90% in general. Just the majority that I know personally. And this is not professionally either. I know many single male clients who are very happy.

What are they so unhappy about. Personally, I think it is the best time in history to be single. But I am older than the 40 year-old demarcation point in the study where single men become happier.

 

[Jenesis]

What are they so unhappy about. Personally, I think it is the best time in history to be single. But I am older than the 40 year-old demarcation point in the study where single men become happier.

Beats the hell out of me.

My one brother for example, became single after my SIL and him split over 15 years ago. He is a miserable person. All he does is work, heat up per-packaged dinners, smoke weed and watch things like Rebel news. Then rinse and repeat. He hates everything now. He was happy back in the day. Active in sports, active with family. They split and his life basically ended. He resents her completely and that has just never gone away so his anger I guess has grown into hatred for everything.

 

[xmontrealer]

Let's not forget the current single female trait of trying to keep their female friends single, by bad-mouthing men in general, and in particular bad-mouthing those men who their single female friends seem to be interested in, or otherwise sabotaging those potential relationships.

 

[Callmerey]

I would say marriage works both ways. Everyday is different and people change everyday. Firstly would be to stop letting your friends and relatives interfere in your marriage and you not telling people about it. More people knows, more problems are created. I think men naturally have more responsibilities than women. Women goes through several hormonal changes in her life starting from giving birth to menopause. Men if want to be happy needs to pamper their wives like they did in the starting. Should not let the honeymoon phase go away. It 100% true- happy wives= happy lives. Don’t let male ego come in between. Remember, a woman cheats only when she is unhappy. Men must have sec outside if for some reason they can’t get from their wives but do your husband duties diligently.

 

[Fun For All]

90% of the single men I know. I was very clear on that point. Go back and read if you have to.

Not 90% in general. Just the majority that I know personally. And this is not professionally either. I know many single male clients who are very happy.

I don’t have to reread it. I understood it the first time you said it. It just doesn’t represent what reality is.

 

[superman2006]

divorced mid-30s guy here, I will say stay single is much better than getting into a bad marriage. You only live once, so I would rather be happy by myself than getting stuck in a miserable marriage with an unhappy wife and troubling kids

 

[Patron]

Conservative women are more likely to be married than liberal women, and they're happier than liberal women.

My personal experience/observation compliments this finding.

Why So Blue: Liberal Women are Less Happy, More Lonely. But Why?

Less marriage and religion help explain liberal women’s unhappiness.

ifstudies.org

Interesting and thought-provoking.

I admit that most of my reading on the subject has been from women who left the church.

I do think it makes sense that women indoctrinated in a culture like the Baptists where they actually sing about the superiority of the male gender might be more interested in marriage and perceive herself as happy.

Of course hell hath no fury like the woman who gets out of all that after being in it.

And there are two obvious problems for the typical male on this board. Presumably the husband has to attend church regularly with her and listen to stories of Jonah being swallowed by the whale and Moses parting the sea. Not that would do much for the future happiness of most guys here, even one who believes greater happiness might occur as a result of marriage.

And religious folks often isolate themselves in groups and marry within those groups after getting to know each other for years. Sure you can show up on the doorstep like Borat and get invited in, but the full acceptance in a short period of time can be a bitch.

Most non religious people spend a lot of time doing critical thinking. It is possible that creates relatively more unhappiness in the short run since there are few solutions to the problems they think about. But I am not sure you can successfully suspend that critical thinking and do the whole religious thing and convince yourself that God will fix all the problems.

That doesn’t mean that the religious folks aren’t happy. I am just not sure you can achieve greater happiness by being Born Again into it after doing much thinking. Those happy people started with it very young and never gave much thought to the ridiculousness of much of it.

 

[jalimon]

Conservative women are more likely to be married than liberal women, and they're happier than liberal women.

My personal experience/observation compliments this finding.

Why So Blue: Liberal Women are Less Happy, More Lonely. But Why?

Less marriage and religion help explain liberal women’s unhappiness.

ifstudies.org

Conservative women are not allowed to be unhappy about their husbands. That's why they turn into angry crazy Karen.

 

[rhuarc29]

Actually, statistics show that unmarried and childless women are happiest.

I literally read a study two days ago that said the opposite. Married with children were happiest, followed by married without children, followed by unmarried without children, with unmarried with children being last. The study was conducted by GSS (General Social Survey), so it's pretty reliable. It was conducted a couple years ago, and is based on women's responses in the 18-55 age bracket. Findings for men were the same ranking, though married without children and unmarried without children were almost on par, whereas it was an 8% gap for women.

Who Is Happiest? Married Mothers and Fathers, per the Latest General Social Survey

Social media and mainstream media are replete with stories suggesting marriage and parenthood are not fulfilling, especially for women. Not surprisingly, many Americans now believe the key to being happy is a good education, work, and freedom from the encumbrances of family life—not getting...

www.aei.org

Although GSS is a reputable survey group, the problem with modern surveys is that there can often be a lack of integrity or competence in conducting them. The language is often loaded, the questions can be a bit misleading, and the available responses to choose from may not encompass the full range that would be applicable. All these can skew the results a certain way...and usually in a way that more supports the ideology of those conducting or paying for the survey. And even once data is collected, the interpretation of said data is also prone to further skew, and then add on top of that how the data is presented.

Just as a for instance, the above link reported the data of only those who said they were "very happy". Whereas the data collected by the survey has things broken down by "very happy", "happy" and "not happy". By presenting only one data point, the article could skew you into believing a majority are unhappy in each instance. So how the data is reported can definitely play a role.

The reason I bring this up is because social media is full of claims that childless, unmarried women are super happy. Occasionally the people saying such will reference a survey or research, but as soon as you dig below the surface you realize something is askew with the data they're basing their opinion on. I can't tell you the number of times I've found this because sometimes the claims are so outlandish that I just have to dig deeper, only to find the claims are wrong.