American Women Giving up on Marriage

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Jen married men don't answer such polls unless their wife asks them to... Hence the favourable response 🤔
Fuck. Larry David missed the perfect Curb Your Enthusiasm episode and now it is too late.

They all get asked the happiness question with spouses present and Larry is the only one who says he is unhappy. Cheryl goes nuts over analyzing, and then Larry slips and says that Jeff only said he was happy because Susie was there. Susie is like Jeff What the Fuck.

The international happiness surveys long ago lost any meaning. The Scandinavians win every year even though they are notoriously unfriendly people even to each other. They joked during Covid that have been doing social distancing for decades. Now that they won once, they feel obligated to say they are happy out of patriotism
 
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A life long partner and if having kids is a lot of work. There's ups and downs. Most financially stable single folks with or without kids are generally happy until they meet the right partner if that happens. A lot of celebs go through divorce too due to infidelity or control issues. Women generally are more social than men and getting sex for women isn't hard and with the rise of a lot of adult toys they don't need a partner if they are doing well alone or even with a girl friend. People also get bored at times and want change as they grow. They realize the partner they married or are with long term is dull and stuff and move on. A lot of 20 year olds are happy single or don't want kids due to financial reasons too. A lot of folks who are married due to religious beliefs string it out and they have their fights too. Some people I find rather break up easily than take the long road. Overall it depends on what the person wants out of their one life. I know women who left hard working nice men and found someone new who meets what they want as in perhaps someone more manly and rugged than soft. People grow and change. When the pandemic happened people ended things based on their beliefs of getting the vaccine or not. A lot of times people get married without asking certain questions and even if ya do ask questions and both of your answers align someone can change their mind later on in life.

Years ago in my early 20s a friend of mine kept being in relationships that weren't healthy for how he was with the women. As in constantly being in communication with them and stuff. He hardly took breaks to do his hobbies, see friends, etc. and to this day that guy is still single and miserable. I told him in my early 20s he should get a pet (specifically a dog) so he's got companionship and pay for sex when in the mood lol. He struggles dealing with arguments and stuff.
 
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Perhaps they don't enjoy them? And if they are financially well based on their career why try to find a man who'll help provide where in return you do something you really don't enjoy or so. One lady said in the article after being together for almost 2 years and her making more money than him he dreamed of her staying home and raising kids. Not all women today want that. Some enjoy the careers they have. And some guys have ego issues where they don't want to tell their friends and family she makes more than him. And sexually not everyone has a high sex drive or so. Most women seem to prefer vanilla sex compared to others. I was on Fetlife a few years back and chatted with some ladies on there who just wanted to chat and one was letting me know she's just on there to mingle only but her hubby wouldn't even go down on her. Not everyone is into oral play especially with concerns of STIs, UTI, etc.

Personally if I'm with someone for a few months I'll ask certain questions that can help me determine if that's who I still wanna be with long term wise. That's not to say people change too. And some couples are open to things like cuckold. And based on this hobby not everyone has a high tolerance to pain or want to be on certain meds as they generally come with long term concerns.
 

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Seems they've already given up on giving blowjobs.
I for one am going to be an optimist.

And we are going to make a 2025 Christmas movie about this, since last year’s Dear Satan movie about the kid who couldn’t spell and summoned Satan instead of Santa never lived up to its potential.

It is going to be called Boyfriends by Christmas. The rich old woman in the article who said she wanted all of her adult daughters to have boyfriends who can ski and went to good schools is diagnosed with a terminal illness and ups the ante saying she will disinherit any of the three who don’t come through by Christmas.

Sounds from the article that one of the three has found a Suitable Candidate, but the other two might be struggling.

Let’s go with your thought. They sign up for a fellatio class online presumably using a banana thinking that will help. That should horrify prudish American audiences expecting Jesus and/or Santa in their Christmas movie.


They have trouble finding the required guys, since fewer young men who go to good schools, and some that did were so busy with school then work that they don’t know how to ski. One of the ladies develops a crush on the cute male plumber that practically saved her life (low-brow comedy needs toilet jokes) and she practices some of her new skills on him, but rich old mom will never approve of him.

The movie can be a study of the pros and cons of single life, the struggles of it around Holidays, whether all single men are as bad as these single women in the article say, and whether it is worthwhile for them to try to conform to the expectations of society, represented by rich, old mom.
 

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A lot of the time it boils down to who they interact with and meet. Sometimes at certain stages in their life their friends play a role then they move on from those friends too. As for the mom telling all 3 what she wants due to her illness is being selfish especially telling them about the inheritance money not going to them if she doesn't get her way. Not everyone wants to continue the bloodline and some women in general don't even want to be pregnant cause of the pain unless they can afford other means that are available today but once again raising a child is a lot of work especially with how social media is making people these days.
 

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A lot of the time it boils down to who they interact with and meet. Sometimes at certain stages in their life their friends play a role then they move on from those friends too. As for the mom telling all 3 what she wants due to her illness is being selfish especially telling them about the inheritance money not going to them if she doesn't get her way. Not everyone wants to continue the bloodline and some women in general don't even want to be pregnant cause of the pain unless they can afford other means that are available today but once again raising a child is a lot of work especially with how social media is making people these days.
Great idea for a touching ending and self-realization. Plus it will turn out that long-dead dad and rich old mom mortgaged the house to send the daughters to Good Schools and the inheritance is only $10,000 after debts. The movie is really about managing everyone else’s expectations versus your own happiness.
 

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Historically women do not date men that are equals or below them in wealth/status, while men have always dated down because they had to. Hypergamy. As women's incomes have soared and men's have stagnated, fewer men meet the threshold, resulting in even more competition for the men who do. But a portion of those men realize their enhanced value and become players, further reducing the pool of suitable men. We've already seen this play out in various sub groups already, like African Americans where so many men are in jail and so black women earn much more relative to black men compared to white women to white men and are willing to have kids alone. Remember in 2008 when black women were saying "Where's my Obama?"

So the dynamics have changed, women are less willing to satisfy male desires and the market for paid sex has exploded. I'd guess every condo tower downtown has at least 2 working girls in it on average. So we men pay for it one way or another. As the saying goes, "I'm not paying for sex, I'm paying for her to go home after."
 

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Historically women do not date men that are equals or below them in wealth/status, while men have always dated down because they had to. Hypergamy. As women's incomes have soared and men's have stagnated, fewer men meet the threshold, resulting in even more competition for the men who do. But a portion of those men realize their enhanced value and become players, further reducing the pool of suitable men. We've already seen this play out in various sub groups already, like African Americans where so many men are in jail and so black women earn much more relative to black men compared to white women to white men and are willing to have kids alone. Remember in 2008 when black women were saying "Where's my Obama?"

So the dynamics have changed, women are less willing to satisfy male desires and the market for paid sex has exploded. I'd guess every condo tower downtown has at least 2 working girls in it on average. So we men pay for it one way or another. As the saying goes, "I'm not paying for sex, I'm paying for her to go home after."
So the dynamics have changed, women are less willing to satisfy male desires and the market for paid sex has exploded.

So although that's what the brochure says, it isn't always the case. If you have run into professionals who are also less willing to satisfy male desires.
 

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And generally if the woman is financially struggling she will marry for money but not show it then leave with half no matter how good the sex seemed as it was all a show. Celebs deal with this type of stuff daily and people dislike losing half of their worth to someone who didn't put the same effort as them. People laugh about older individuals dating younger folks with the typical "fuck boy" mentality where they don't want much else afterwards and it's usually because of what they have witnessed. High profile folks get these young folks to sign NDAs that come with stipulations no different than rich folks having certain demands prior to marriage so the contract states they wanted 2 or 3 kids from the woman when they get married. They live in a black and white type of world and with the amount of money they have they don't care. Their mindset is business orientated lol.

Men need to learn how to cope with being single, alone and happy. Unfortunately, desires and whatnot play factors. And since us men tend not be as social as women I'd suggest guys find local clubs that meet their interests. There are good and bad people out there. It's a matter of getting up and trying and reaching out.
 
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We know extremely different types of people. LOL. Not my experience at all. At least with the women I know - men I would agree. 90% of the single men I know are miserable.
We also must know different types of people...90% of single men are miserable? Really? No kidding?
 

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So the dynamics have changed, women are less willing to satisfy male desires and the market for paid sex has exploded.

So although that's what the brochure says, it isn't always the case. If you have run into professionals who are also less willing to satisfy male desires.
There will always be poor customer service providers in any industry, more so when times are booming. But there should also be many more providers. That's where review sites like this come in handy to help the more discriminating connousseur.
 
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And generally if the woman is financially struggling she will marry for money but not show it then leave with half no matter how good the sex seemed as it was all a show. Celebs deal with this type of stuff daily and people dislike losing half of their worth to someone who didn't put the same effort as them. People laugh about older individuals dating younger folks with the typical "fuck boy" mentality where they don't want much else afterwards and it's usually because of what they have witnessed. High profile folks get these young folks to sign NDAs that come with stipulations no different than rich folks having certain demands prior to marriage so the contract states they wanted 2 or 3 kids from the woman when they get married. They live in a black and white type of world and with the amount of money they have they don't care. Their mindset is business orientated lol.

Men need to learn how to cope with being single, alone and happy. Unfortunately, desires and whatnot play factors. And since us men tend not be as social as women I'd suggest guys find local clubs that meet their interests. There are good and bad people out there. It's a matter of getting up and trying and reaching out.
Young men typically prioritize looks and focus on young hotties. As I've aged though the reasons I generally prefer younger women are not the looks (though it's a factor) but because they're more likely to put in the effort to take care of men sexually and try things, whether in traditional dating relationships or paid. I say that though having had a few affairs and preferred escorts and strippers who are older than average and sometimes even older than me. When you find a hungry cougar your best defence is to play with them.
 

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We also must know different types of people...90% of single men are miserable? Really? No kidding?
I can’t believe it is that high either, but the principle that Jenesis espoused is supported by a University of Toronto study, authored primarily by a really hot lady. I can’t believe if she stopped and asked Toronto guys if they are happy, they wouldn’t have said, I am now.


I also thing #tradwife marriage gives married, or formerly married, women more things to complain and be unhappy about. This woman is like fucking 90 and still complaining about the purchase of a $3,000 home instead of a $12,000 home by her husband like 70 years ago. You don’t think about the decisions you made seven decades ago if you are single and the one who made those decisions.

 
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We also must know different types of people...90% of single men are miserable? Really? No kidding?
I can’t believe it is that high either, but the principle that Jenesis espoused is supported by a University of Toronto study, authored primarily by a really hot lady. I can’t believe if she stopped and asked Toronto guys if they are happy, they wouldn’t have said, I am now.

90% of the single men I know. I was very clear on that point. Go back and read if you have to.

Not 90% in general. Just the majority that I know personally. And this is not professionally either. I know many single male clients who are very happy.
 

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90% of the single men I know. I was very clear on that point. Go back and read if you have to.

Not 90% in general. Just the majority that I know personally. And this is not professionally either. I know many single male clients who are very happy.
What are they so unhappy about. Personally, I think it is the best time in history to be single. But I am older than the 40 year-old demarcation point in the study where single men become happier.
 

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What are they so unhappy about. Personally, I think it is the best time in history to be single. But I am older than the 40 year-old demarcation point in the study where single men become happier.
Beats the hell out of me.

My one brother for example, became single after my SIL and him split over 15 years ago. He is a miserable person. All he does is work, heat up per-packaged dinners, smoke weed and watch things like Rebel news. Then rinse and repeat. He hates everything now. He was happy back in the day. Active in sports, active with family. They split and his life basically ended. He resents her completely and that has just never gone away so his anger I guess has grown into hatred for everything.
 

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I've been finding Barrie and north has been typically meh unless it's someone touring. You gents know of anyone decent around Barrie/Orillia?

I've been single for almost 10 years now with kids who I see often. Loneliness rarely gets to me since I occupy my time with work/hobbies. Dated on/off but nobody worth long term wise. Prior to married things were "fun" and easy going and shortly after marriage I found things got meh. That's not to say all marriages are like that but I felt a lot happier when my marriage ended cause she was just bringing me down. The negativity and attitude got super annoying along with trying to use sex as a tool lol. Even my oldest son at times gets annoyed with her cause he sees it along with her work ethic. I gotta find me a single mom who's active and enjoys cooking similar to me. It's these lazy folks with child like behaviours at times that eventually get annoying and they try and blame it all on ya lol.
 
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