So lying about history, lying about events, lying about data is his genius plan to have everyone around him capitulate to his whims and desires? Wow, I'm shocked, I always thought of him as a person who makes up policy from what pops into his head after watching his favorite networks instead of a scheming genius. Have you ever tried this style of negotiating in the real world? If you did how did it work out for you? You might find a Macron that jumps on the bullshit and fact checks you right on the spot but what do I know.
Tariffs on Canada delayed for 30 days. Edit: The tariff war has begun.
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Trump is using the threat of tariffs as some way to project power over Canada, Mexico and the EU. But, the reality is, if he actually imposes them, the US economy is going to see mad inflation. Will it possible force more domestic manufacturing? Sure. It could. But you can't build (or refurbish) a factory or train employees overnight. Those things would take a year at best, more likely two or more years. And, by that time, Trump would likely have backed down because the US economy took a massive hit.
Let's face a few facts: We know (well, the educated amongst us) that tariffs impact the shelf price of goods...unless the producer eats the cost. Now, with the low Canadian dollar, the 25% tariff might not be that bad for certain products, and it might not make a difference...or a negligible difference. But, then there are things like raw materials or metals. Like aluminum. The US cannot produce enough of that metal, and likely can't for several years (refineries/smelters take time to build), and the price for aluminum has already surged BEFORE the tariffs. So, we're looking at inflation....and, when combined with other factors, it could be MASSIVE inflation. What else are we talking about? Well, deporting immigrants is going to cut the labour pool for things like picking fruit, construction and in the hospitality industry. That could see wages surge, as most American's don't want to do those jobs for that low pay.
Next, you have the international issues. Canadians are cancelling trips to the US. If this keeps up, Florida's tourism industry is going to take a pretty big hit, with nearly $6B pumped into their economy from Canadians. But, it isn't just Florida. Other states have reported that bookings from Canadians have plummeted since Trump started flapping his gums about 51st state and tariffs. Places like New York, Arizona, Cali, New Jersey and others have seen trips cancelled. And, there is a chance that EU members (or even other commonwealth countries) could start avoiding the US for leisure trips.
Next, even without tariffs, Canadians have been boycotting US-made goods. On some level, this might not be sustainable, but I think you'll see major manufacturers of goods, like Kraft, reporting lower international sales. This could lead to a lot of US companies and farms losing billions in sales. And, again, the EU or other countries could start to boycott these products (though that is less likely).
All of these things are going to put people out of work. And, if you recall....Elon's DOGE has already fired thousands of public servants. So, I doubt we'll see positive job growth numbers for 2025, nor a thriving US economy...
I remember someone on X was bragging that the last time the GOP controlled the White House, Senate and House was 1928. But....does anyone know what happened in 1929....And how the president Hoover made a painful recession into the Great Depression by implementing....tariffs....
So, while Mayor McCheese down there might think he's some kind of stable genius, the reality is that he will tank the US economy if he tries this bullshit. Will Canada feel it? Of course. We're going to take a pounding. But, I think it will increase patriotism, and might help us ween our economy from the US. Maybe we can make more cash via Europe or Asia. They're going to need our critical minerals, potash, and other resources. The bottomline is, Trump will either keep pushing the deadline back, or claim some sort of victory over Canada/Mexico like he did three weeks ago.
Let's face a few facts: We know (well, the educated amongst us) that tariffs impact the shelf price of goods...unless the producer eats the cost. Now, with the low Canadian dollar, the 25% tariff might not be that bad for certain products, and it might not make a difference...or a negligible difference. But, then there are things like raw materials or metals. Like aluminum. The US cannot produce enough of that metal, and likely can't for several years (refineries/smelters take time to build), and the price for aluminum has already surged BEFORE the tariffs. So, we're looking at inflation....and, when combined with other factors, it could be MASSIVE inflation. What else are we talking about? Well, deporting immigrants is going to cut the labour pool for things like picking fruit, construction and in the hospitality industry. That could see wages surge, as most American's don't want to do those jobs for that low pay.
Next, you have the international issues. Canadians are cancelling trips to the US. If this keeps up, Florida's tourism industry is going to take a pretty big hit, with nearly $6B pumped into their economy from Canadians. But, it isn't just Florida. Other states have reported that bookings from Canadians have plummeted since Trump started flapping his gums about 51st state and tariffs. Places like New York, Arizona, Cali, New Jersey and others have seen trips cancelled. And, there is a chance that EU members (or even other commonwealth countries) could start avoiding the US for leisure trips.
Next, even without tariffs, Canadians have been boycotting US-made goods. On some level, this might not be sustainable, but I think you'll see major manufacturers of goods, like Kraft, reporting lower international sales. This could lead to a lot of US companies and farms losing billions in sales. And, again, the EU or other countries could start to boycott these products (though that is less likely).
All of these things are going to put people out of work. And, if you recall....Elon's DOGE has already fired thousands of public servants. So, I doubt we'll see positive job growth numbers for 2025, nor a thriving US economy...
I remember someone on X was bragging that the last time the GOP controlled the White House, Senate and House was 1928. But....does anyone know what happened in 1929....And how the president Hoover made a painful recession into the Great Depression by implementing....tariffs....
So, while Mayor McCheese down there might think he's some kind of stable genius, the reality is that he will tank the US economy if he tries this bullshit. Will Canada feel it? Of course. We're going to take a pounding. But, I think it will increase patriotism, and might help us ween our economy from the US. Maybe we can make more cash via Europe or Asia. They're going to need our critical minerals, potash, and other resources. The bottomline is, Trump will either keep pushing the deadline back, or claim some sort of victory over Canada/Mexico like he did three weeks ago.
One delay---understandable.CheckMate Mr. Trumputin aka POS dementia-riddled orangutang.
Even EU Shocked by Germany’s Bold Move Against US! Trump Didn’t Expect This Much!
Justin is doing a great job on his way out.
Prime Minister to travel to Paris and Brussels to strengthen transatlantic co-operation and advance global progress on AI
In Paris, the Prime Minister will participate in the AI Action Summit hosted by the President of France, Emmanuel Macron.www.pm.gc.ca
A second delay---it's beginning to sound more suspect.
It was supposed to happen Day1, Jan 20. It's now Day 38 and April 1 is day 72. Hopefully it's all a big bluff.
Now it's this Tuesday, if we get past March 4th then we face them again on April 2. It's a joke and at some point if he doesn't follow through, Canada, Mexico and EU as a team need to give him a big GO FUCK YOURSELF.
Sadly even not following through he is doing immense damage to Canada. We need to join up with the EU and cancel the MCUSA.
He is too old and dumb to understand how shit works and is fucking up massively like a senile old shitbrain.
When Trump lies he turns into an orange orangutan. Just like when Bruce Banner gets angry he turns Green.
The reason being is that Canada is very soft on the border and not fully enforcing the law. If our border agents were enforcing the law, then the reported numbers would be much higherThat Canadian border is out of control I tell you.
The last time the GOP controlled the white house, senate, and the house after an election was 2016.
Buckle up and enjoy the ride. This will create a lot of buying opportunities.
Dougy will take care of him now that he has his new mandate.
Biased partisan politics aside, who would win in a cage match, Trump vs Ford?
How the fuck is he a "businessman" if he doesn't even know that tariffs are paid for by the consumer?
No surprises that his businesses went bankrupt. lol.
The 3-ring Elon and Trumputin circus
Federal workers given 15 minutes to pack up, leave office
Federal workers given 15 minutes to pack up, leave office
That....might be true. I can see the share prices of a lot of companies taking massive hits. How will Trump spin a market correction when he used the S&P as a proxy for how good the US economy was....
Now, on that note.....I wonder....why is Trump allowing Musk and company to push the US into a recession? I mean, they're killing jobs throughout the public sector, and that will have a catastrophic effect on small towns across the US...and likely push us into a recession, even before tariffs are done. Is it just inept policy? Is it that they are so ideologically focused that they just don't see the ramifications of what they are doing.....Or....is it that Trump and his cabinet are ultra wealthy and they can weather out the chaos...
Part of me thinks this is a plan to crush workers. Think about it this way: Coming out of the pandemic, workers had the best bargaining position in a generation. There were more jobs than workers, and they negotiated great contracts (GM, UPS, etc.,). Wages increased. Now, there will be hundreds of thousands of unemployed people looking for work. Supply and demand will cause wages to plummet. The gap between rich and poor will only grow. Oligarchy will rule the roost...
I think the bottom line here is that the US middle class is going to cease to exist. We're going to see a lot of economic chaos here. How long will Trump have support? How much of a blue wave will hit in the mid-term elections? It will be very interesting to see...
And....to all the nay sayers to this....tell me what you think is going to happen...
Whatever happens, it's better then that loser Kamala becoming President......LMAO
Trump calls Freeland 'a whack' and Poilievre 'not a MAGA guy' as tariff threat looms
Story by Kelly Geraldine Malone
U.S. President Donald Trump speaks during a joint press conference with Britain's Prime Minister Keir Starmer in the East Room at the White House on Thursday, Feb. 27, 2025, in Washington. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Carl Court/Pool Photo via AP© The Canadian Press
WASHINGTON — U.S. President Donald Trump is weighing in on domestic Canadian politics as his deadline to impose steep tariffs on Canada inches closer.
In an interview with The Spectator, Trump called Liberal leadership candidate Chrystia Freeland terrible and "a whack" — and claimed credit for her resignation as finance minister.
Trump also remarked on Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre, saying that "his biggest problem is he's not a MAGA guy."
An edited transcript of the Thursday interview with Trump did not provide any new insights into what Canada might do to stop the devastating duties from going forward next week.
Trump's executive order to implement 25 per cent tariffs on all Canadian and Mexican imports, with a lower 10 per cent levy on energy, was delayed until March 4 after both countries agreed to introduce new security measures at the border.
Trump said Thursday he hadn't seen any progress from Canada and Mexico.
Trump calls Freeland 'a whack' and Poilievre 'not a MAGA guy' as tariff threat looms
These tariffs have to be completely illegal under the existing trade agreements and under US law. I am guessing that Congress has to ratify all tariffs and trade deals, with the exception of very, very urgent measures.
Story by Kelly Geraldine Malone
U.S. President Donald Trump speaks during a joint press conference with Britain's Prime Minister Keir Starmer in the East Room at the White House on Thursday, Feb. 27, 2025, in Washington. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Carl Court/Pool Photo via AP© The Canadian Press
WASHINGTON — U.S. President Donald Trump is weighing in on domestic Canadian politics as his deadline to impose steep tariffs on Canada inches closer.
In an interview with The Spectator, Trump called Liberal leadership candidate Chrystia Freeland terrible and "a whack" — and claimed credit for her resignation as finance minister.
Trump also remarked on Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre, saying that "his biggest problem is he's not a MAGA guy."
An edited transcript of the Thursday interview with Trump did not provide any new insights into what Canada might do to stop the devastating duties from going forward next week.
Trump's executive order to implement 25 per cent tariffs on all Canadian and Mexican imports, with a lower 10 per cent levy on energy, was delayed until March 4 after both countries agreed to introduce new security measures at the border.
Trump said Thursday he hadn't seen any progress from Canada and Mexico.
Trump calls Freeland 'a whack' and Poilievre 'not a MAGA guy' as tariff threat looms
These tariffs have to be completely illegal under the existing trade agreements and under US law. I am guessing that Congress has to ratify all tariffs and trade deals, with the exception of very, very urgent measures.
Looks like DoFo is heading back to home base.
