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Tariffs on Canada delayed for 30 days. Edit: Trump folds again. 90 day pause.

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onomatopoeia

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When a child is disobedient, it's not uncommon for their parent to make idle threats as a means to elicit compliance. In politics, this tactic is called Brinksmanship.

John F. Kennedy once said "When I tell Canada to do something, I expect Her to obey".

I'll believe the tariffs if and when they are actually imposed.
 

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I sense there is a fear here that Trump will influence Canadian politics. Not by intervening, but simply by example.

The worst thing to happen for the Liberals is for Canadians to assess 2015-2025 while peeking over the border.
What example did you have in mind?....

The heavy use of bronzer?

Or the continual litigation losses in Federal court?
 

onomatopoeia

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A good pimp knows that when one of his hoes gets uppity, the threat of sanctions is often enough to elicit the proper attitude adjustment. Trump is a good pimp, and Canada is one of his hoes.

Trump doesn't want to impose tariffs on Canada; it will hurt the economies of both Countries, particularly if Canada reciprocates. He does, however, want Canada to tighten border security, and he wants Her to pay Her fair share of mutual military expenditures. Threatening to impose tariffs is a pressure tactic designed to force Canada to act, because asking nicely doesn't work.

If you judge Trump by his results in this term, as opposed to fixating on his methods, I believe that he will achieve a lot of positives by the end of his current mandate. The people who won't be happy will mostly be those who complain the most and contribute the least. They currently aren't a large enough minority to collectively hold the balance of power, and Trump's attitude towards them is "Fuck 'em".

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Consider the high school gym teacher of old, the football coach, or the drill sergeant in army boot camp. They frequently use/ used humiliation as a motivational tool. They are generally despised when they are doing their job, and they expect that. When their job is complete, however, many of their subordinates acknowledge that success would not have been accomplished, if they had been politely asked to do what was demanded of them.
 

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Standing in for Daniel Day Lewis and Paul Dano in tonight's performance of There Will Be Blood will be Donald Trump and Justin Trudeau.
Donald Trump's credits include The Apprentice and Saturday Night Live. Justin Trudeau has performed in a Vancouver production of 1001 Arabian Nights. ;)

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A good pimp knows that when one of his hoes gets uppity, the threat of sanctions is often enough to elicit the proper attitude adjustment. Trump is a good pimp, and Canada is one of his hoes.

Trump doesn't want to impose tariffs on Canada; it will hurt the economies of both Countries, particularly if Canada reciprocates. He does, however, want Canada to tighten border security, and he wants Her to pay Her fair share of mutual military expenditures. Threatening to impose tariffs is a pressure tactic designed to force Canada to act, because asking nicely doesn't work.

If you judge Trump by his results in this term, as opposed to fixating on his methods, I believe that he will achieve a lot of positives by the end of his current mandate. The people who won't be happy will mostly be those who complain the most and contribute the least. They currently aren't a large enough minority to collectively hold the balance of power, and Trump's attitude towards them is "Fuck 'em".

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Consider the high school gym teacher of old, the football coach, or the drill sergeant in army boot camp. They frequently use/ used humiliation as a motivational tool. They are generally despised when they are doing their job, and they expect that. When their job is complete, however, many of their subordinates acknowledge that success would not have been accomplished, if they had been politely asked to do what was demanded of them.
So lying about history, lying about events, lying about data is his genius plan to have everyone around him capitulate to his whims and desires? Wow, I'm shocked, I always thought of him as a person who makes up policy from what pops into his head after watching his favorite networks instead of a scheming genius. Have you ever tried this style of negotiating in the real world? If you did how did it work out for you? You might find a Macron that jumps on the bullshit and fact checks you right on the spot but what do I know.
 

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Trump is using the threat of tariffs as some way to project power over Canada, Mexico and the EU. But, the reality is, if he actually imposes them, the US economy is going to see mad inflation. Will it possible force more domestic manufacturing? Sure. It could. But you can't build (or refurbish) a factory or train employees overnight. Those things would take a year at best, more likely two or more years. And, by that time, Trump would likely have backed down because the US economy took a massive hit.

Let's face a few facts: We know (well, the educated amongst us) that tariffs impact the shelf price of goods...unless the producer eats the cost. Now, with the low Canadian dollar, the 25% tariff might not be that bad for certain products, and it might not make a difference...or a negligible difference. But, then there are things like raw materials or metals. Like aluminum. The US cannot produce enough of that metal, and likely can't for several years (refineries/smelters take time to build), and the price for aluminum has already surged BEFORE the tariffs. So, we're looking at inflation....and, when combined with other factors, it could be MASSIVE inflation. What else are we talking about? Well, deporting immigrants is going to cut the labour pool for things like picking fruit, construction and in the hospitality industry. That could see wages surge, as most American's don't want to do those jobs for that low pay.

Next, you have the international issues. Canadians are cancelling trips to the US. If this keeps up, Florida's tourism industry is going to take a pretty big hit, with nearly $6B pumped into their economy from Canadians. But, it isn't just Florida. Other states have reported that bookings from Canadians have plummeted since Trump started flapping his gums about 51st state and tariffs. Places like New York, Arizona, Cali, New Jersey and others have seen trips cancelled. And, there is a chance that EU members (or even other commonwealth countries) could start avoiding the US for leisure trips.

Next, even without tariffs, Canadians have been boycotting US-made goods. On some level, this might not be sustainable, but I think you'll see major manufacturers of goods, like Kraft, reporting lower international sales. This could lead to a lot of US companies and farms losing billions in sales. And, again, the EU or other countries could start to boycott these products (though that is less likely).

All of these things are going to put people out of work. And, if you recall....Elon's DOGE has already fired thousands of public servants. So, I doubt we'll see positive job growth numbers for 2025, nor a thriving US economy...

I remember someone on X was bragging that the last time the GOP controlled the White House, Senate and House was 1928. But....does anyone know what happened in 1929....And how the president Hoover made a painful recession into the Great Depression by implementing....tariffs....

So, while Mayor McCheese down there might think he's some kind of stable genius, the reality is that he will tank the US economy if he tries this bullshit. Will Canada feel it? Of course. We're going to take a pounding. But, I think it will increase patriotism, and might help us ween our economy from the US. Maybe we can make more cash via Europe or Asia. They're going to need our critical minerals, potash, and other resources. The bottomline is, Trump will either keep pushing the deadline back, or claim some sort of victory over Canada/Mexico like he did three weeks ago.
 
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CheckMate Mr. Trumputin aka POS dementia-riddled orangutang.

Even EU Shocked by Germany’s Bold Move Against US! Trump Didn’t Expect This Much!

Justin is doing a great job on his way out.
One delay---understandable.

A second delay---it's beginning to sound more suspect.

It was supposed to happen Day1, Jan 20. It's now Day 38 and April 1 is day 72. Hopefully it's all a big bluff.
 

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Canada should immediately suspend all defence contracts with the USA and say they will be cancelled if there is no acceptable resolution to trade.
 

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One delay---understandable.

A second delay---it's beginning to sound more suspect.

It was supposed to happen Day1, Jan 20. It's now Day 38 and April 1 is day 72. Hopefully it's all a big bluff.
Now it's this Tuesday, if we get past March 4th then we face them again on April 2. It's a joke and at some point if he doesn't follow through, Canada, Mexico and EU as a team need to give him a big GO FUCK YOURSELF.
 
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Now it's this Tuesday, if we get past March 4th then we face them again on April 2. It's a joke and at some point if he doesn't follow through, Canada, Mexico and EU as a team need to give him a big GO FUCK YOURSELF.
Sadly even not following through he is doing immense damage to Canada. We need to join up with the EU and cancel the MCUSA.
 

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Now it's this Tuesday, if we get past March 4th then we face them again on April 2. It's a joke and at some point if he doesn't follow through, Canada, Mexico and EU as a team need to give him a big GO FUCK YOURSELF.
We should just ignore trump.
Don't feed the troll.
 

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Trump is using the threat of tariffs as some way to project power over Canada, Mexico and the EU. But, the reality is, if he actually imposes them, the US economy is going to see mad inflation. Will it possible force more domestic manufacturing? Sure. It could. But you can't build (or refurbish) a factory or train employees overnight. Those things would take a year at best, more likely two or more years. And, by that time, Trump would likely have backed down because the US economy took a massive hit.

Let's face a few facts: We know (well, the educated amongst us) that tariffs impact the shelf price of goods...unless the producer eats the cost. Now, with the low Canadian dollar, the 25% tariff might not be that bad for certain products, and it might not make a difference...or a negligible difference. But, then there are things like raw materials or metals. Like aluminum. The US cannot produce enough of that metal, and likely can't for several years (refineries/smelters take time to build), and the price for aluminum has already surged BEFORE the tariffs. So, we're looking at inflation....and, when combined with other factors, it could be MASSIVE inflation. What else are we talking about? Well, deporting immigrants is going to cut the labour pool for things like picking fruit, construction and in the hospitality industry. That could see wages surge, as most American's don't want to do those jobs for that low pay.

Next, you have the international issues. Canadians are cancelling trips to the US. If this keeps up, Florida's tourism industry is going to take a pretty big hit, with nearly $6B pumped into their economy from Canadians. But, it isn't just Florida. Other states have reported that bookings from Canadians have plummeted since Trump started flapping his gums about 51st state and tariffs. Places like New York, Arizona, Cali, New Jersey and others have seen trips cancelled. And, there is a chance that EU members (or even other commonwealth countries) could start avoiding the US for leisure trips.

Next, even without tariffs, Canadians have been boycotting US-made goods. On some level, this might not be sustainable, but I think you'll see major manufacturers of goods, like Kraft, reporting lower international sales. This could lead to a lot of US companies and farms losing billions in sales. And, again, the EU or other countries could start to boycott these products (though that is less likely).

All of these things are going to put people out of work. And, if you recall....Elon's DOGE has already fired thousands of public servants. So, I doubt we'll see positive job growth numbers for 2025, nor a thriving US economy...

I remember someone on X was bragging that the last time the GOP controlled the White House, Senate and House was 1928. But....does anyone know what happened in 1929....And how the president Hoover made a painful recession into the Great Depression by implementing....tariffs....

So, while Mayor McCheese down there might think he's some kind of stable genius, the reality is that he will tank the US economy if he tries this bullshit. Will Canada feel it? Of course. We're going to take a pounding. But, I think it will increase patriotism, and might help us ween our economy from the US. Maybe we can make more cash via Europe or Asia. They're going to need our critical minerals, potash, and other resources. The bottomline is, Trump will either keep pushing the deadline back, or claim some sort of victory over Canada/Mexico like he did three weeks ago.
The last time the GOP controlled the white house, senate, and the house after an election was 2016.

Buckle up and enjoy the ride. This will create a lot of buying opportunities.
 
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