Musk demands Federal workers email him what they have done, or get fired

[Addict2sex]

What does that mean? Millionaires based on what? Do they make a million dollars a year after taxes?

Because if it's based on assets where is the problem?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1893763585689452941

 

[jalimon]

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all senators from both side are inside traders in the US.

 

[JohnLarue]

I'm not contradicting myself.

sure you are

I said it's HOW you do it. You've created a false dichotomy that one either believes there is waste or believes there isn't waste.

there is no doubt there is waste

No one believes its either or.

there is no doubt there is waste

So making up stories of fraud and waste is acceptable to you? Or would you rather get accurate info? I imagine you want real ones. Real fraud and abuse? Musk has pumped out a ton of misinformation about what he's doing or saving.

according to you and you do not have any credibility
Musk has lots of credibility

But if i tell you the us government is spending billions on training dragons, but that is patently not true, that does not mean you think there is no waste.
Musk put out examples that turn out to be false. Routinely. What about accurate info - I take it you're in favor of accurate information?

i really do not care what you tell us, you are a known bullshit artist

I did not mention the debt. I addressed the myth that the number of govt employees has exploded.

like i said
you will ignore this until it blows up
this makes your opinion irrelevant/ useless

There is more than one way to address the deficit/debt. Includes more raising income

both Obama / Biden tried this & it did not work
Govt does not have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem

and making cuts.

cut out the waste first

economic growth will also change the ratio of debt to gdp.

what is the matter with you ?
debt to gdp ratio is irrelevant as it will go vertical once it is too late

debt to GDP ratio has been a misleading tool to justify excusive borrowing

the important metric is interest coverage
debt which now consumes 19.9% of govt revenue in interest payments
and the compounding effect
the US government debt accumulated over 240 years is projected to double in 9 years given the status quo

So we don't disagree. We may differ on how to get there

no
we do not agree

So making up stories of fraud and waste is acceptable to you? Or would you rather get accurate info? I imagine you want real ones. Real fraud and abuse? Musk has pumped out a ton of misinformation about what he's doing or saving.

you want to ignore the problem
and you want to keep the details of the problem from seeing the light of day

 

[Bucktee]

He's going to crash and burn big time. I will be smiling and enjoying the moment when he does.

I'd take greater pleasure in seeing useless federal employees get canned.

 

[Frankfooter]

I'd take greater pleasure in seeing useless federal employees get canned.

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[squeezer]

I'd take greater pleasure in seeing useless federal employees get canned.

Jealousy is an ugly thing. You must have applied for a government job at one point in your life and been turned away.

 

[Valcazar]

you are your own worst enemy
if the "findings" have been public for years why were they permitted to persist ?
that is grounds for dismissal

Because "I disagree with this policy goal" is not actually waste, fraud, and abuse.
Neither are "things which I've lied about and misrepresented".

All federal employees who have fund disbursement responsibilities will have signed a paper indicating they have fiduciary responsibility to safeguard govt (taxpayer) funds

wilful blindness is not an acceptable excuse under money laundering legislation

If Musk ever produces any evidence of money laundering, then that would be relevant.

 

[Valcazar]

To be fair, Elon is not their boss. Nor was this part of the job description.

But Elon is more important than their boss.
He is the Hand of the King.

 

[Valcazar]

Trump doesn't understand what these groups and agencies so he takes Elon at face value despite the clear documentable errors. He's likely unaware of the errors.

That is assuming Trump cares about waste and fraud.
There's not really much reason to believe that.

 

[JohnLarue]

Because "I disagree with this policy goal" is not actually waste, fraud, and abuse.
Neither are "things which I've lied about and misrepresented".

pretending there is not actually waste, fraud, and abuse is lying and misrepresentation

If Musk ever produces any evidence of money laundering, then that would be relevant.

All federal employees who have fund disbursement responsibilities will have signed a paper indicating they have fiduciary responsibility to safeguard govt (taxpayer) funds

the fact wilful blindness is not an acceptable excuse under money laundering legislation will become apparent soon enough

 

[Valcazar]

Is English ..
So making up stories of fraud and waste is acceptable to you?

Of course it is.

Or would you rather get accurate info?

Why would he want that?

I imagine you want real ones. Real fraud and abuse?

Those would be helpful, but he clearly doesn't consider them necessary.

Musk has pumped out a ton of misinformation about what he's doing or saving.

But it is misinformation in service of the true, holy goal of debt reduction.
Therefore it is permissible to lie, cheat, and steal in service of the greater good.

I'm not pretending there is no waste. That came from the recesses of your mind, not my words.
In fact, I've outlined other approaches done back in the 90s that phased out 400,000 us government workers in the 1990s. I'm in favor of going after it. But it's how you do it.
The USA has essentially the same number of government employees now as it had since the 80s. Yet the population is up 50% since then.

As Wyatt pointed out in the other thread, doing it properly, legally, and with accountability is too slow.
It also prevents you from wrecking the Constitutional order and executing a greater power grab.
So that's obviously unacceptable as a method.

 

[Bucktee]

Jealousy is an ugly thing. You must have applied for a government job at one point in your life and been turned away.

The opposite. I've worked for the government and I've seen just how inefficient, corrupt, and wasteful it is.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1893790887538262066

If the standard is that low, then there is no benefit to asking for those 5 points in the first place.
No employee anywhere has "five" things they accomplish every week.
Work ebbs and flows.
Certainly not in a process oriented organization such as a federal agency, where there may not be things to accomplish every week.
Or rather the things accomplished every week may be the same activities.
So he is asking a question that is inappropriate for the kind of work that a federal agency does and he is using that as a pretext to fire federal employees.

 

[Valcazar]

I'm not contradicting myself. I said it's HOW you do it. You've created a false dichotomy that one either believes there is waste or believes there isn't waste. No one believes its either or. But if i tell you the us government is spending billions on training dragons, but that is patently not true, that does not mean you think there is no waste.

Nope.
Anything preventing attacking the debt is a sin, so pointing out lies or deception that mean the holy project might be derailed means you don't believe there is any waste at all.

What about accurate info - I take it you're in favor of accurate information?

Assumes facts not in evidence.

There is more than one way to address the deficit/debt. Includes more raising income and making cuts.economic growth will also change the ratio of debt to gdp.
So we don't disagree. We may differ on how to get there.

Anything other than absolute adherence to the orthodoxy of Larue is proof you are a heretic, an apostate, and must be cleansed from the body politic.

 

[squeezer]

The opposite. I've worked for the government and I've seen just how inefficient, corrupt, and wasteful it is.

So you were fired and have an ax to grind.

Hmmm, not to many get fired but in your case, I get it. LOL

 

[Valcazar]

pretending there is not actually waste, fraud, and abuse is lying and misrepresentation

But pointing out that Musk has done nothing to find any and is lying about what he is finding is not.
It's just inconvenient for you.

All federal employees who have fund disbursement responsibilities will have signed a paper indicating they have fiduciary responsibility to safeguard govt (taxpayer) funds

the fact wilful blindness is not an acceptable excuse under money laundering legislation will become apparent soon enough

This is some kid of fetish for you, isn't it?

 

[Valcazar]

So he is asking a question that is inappropriate for the kind of work that a federal agency does and he is using that as a pretext to fire federal employees.

Of course it is pretextual.

 

[JohnLarue]

But pointing out that Musk has done nothing to find any and is lying about what he is finding is not.
It's just inconvenient for you.

DEi and trans surgery payments to other counties is not nothing
you claiming he is lying is just pure speculation on your part
pretending there is not actually waste, fraud, and abuse is lying and misrepresentation

This is some kid of fetish for you, isn't it?

not at all

any taxpayer should expect nothing less

these are just facts of the matter

All federal employees who have fund disbursement responsibilities will have signed a paper indicating they have fiduciary responsibility to safeguard govt (taxpayer) funds
the fact wilful blindness is not an acceptable excuse under money laundering legislation will become apparent soon enough

we are going to have to streamline govt in Canada very soon

the better question is why is it a fetish of yours to defend wasteful / irresponsible government spending
it has to be some sort of illogical / unjustifiable abnormality on your part as the wasteful / irresponsible government spending only ensures the social safety ne gets destroyed that much sooner

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

If someone had written a novel about this 45 years ago, no publisher would have accepted it -- the reality of the situation is just too far out there.

 

[Valcazar]

DEi and trans surgery payments to other counties is not nothing

That's just programs you dislike.
That's not "waste, fraud, and abuse".
I know you are very emotional, but you have to stop mistaking policy disagreements with waste.

you claiming he is lying is just pure speculation on your part

He's admitted to saying things that are untrue about this and, of course, people have pointed out the many lies, misinterpretations, and fake numbers he's put out.
Not speculation at all, on my part. Just facts.

pretending there is not actually waste, fraud, and abuse is lying and misrepresentation

No one is doing that.
That's just your weird religious absolutism and emotional investment in your fetish making it hard for you to think.