That poster is a radicalized Marxist. Make no mistake about.
He's infecting more than this forum.
Musk demands Federal workers email him what they have done, or get fired
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He's infecting more than this forum.
Yes.
He did it at Twitter as well as a pretext to fire people.
Remember that most of what Musk is doing publicly at DOGE is PR/propaganda unrelated to what they are really doing.
All those twitter posts "finding" things that have been public for years.
Lying about the numbers and what they mean.
Grand sweeping gestures like this.
It's all in service to the "everything is all bullshit and waste and only we can fix it" narrative they want in place so they can do shit they want to do.
Huh?
You miss the point.
I'm the senior manager. I get a shithouse piece of work from a bloke i hired. Includes stuff that misleads me.
I relieve them of their duty. There are no insults. Just clear feedback.
That's a hypothetical letter that the guy would get.
I imagine you held a job at some point in your life so you know that.
I hire a guy to do a job, and he produces an error filled report including shit that misleading, he's gone. What don't you get about that?
I think Larue is under the delusion that Musk is actually fighting waste and fraud and not posting bullshit.
no you missed the point
you maybe a senior manager, but your team has received a request from someone further up the food chain
you do not have that authority
Musk reports to the president
the guy who hired him has nothing but good things to say about his work
I imagine you held a job at some point in your life so you know this happens
A guy is hired to do a job, uncover waste and fraud ,
the ones who caused the waste and fraud are putting up resistance to his efforts
they wind up gone. What don't you get about that?
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i think you are under the delusion that fighting efforts to eliminate waste and fraud is somehow going to work
Musk should go back to selling Teslas, public office isn't good for him. He was on pace to be the first trillionaire but not anymore.
you are your own worst enemy
if the "findings" have been public for years why were they permitted to persist ?
that is grounds for dismissal
All federal employees who have fund disbursement responsibilities will have signed a paper indicating they have fiduciary responsibility to safeguard govt (taxpayer) funds
wilful blindness is not an acceptable excuse under money laundering legislation
To be fair, Elon is not their boss. Nor was this part of the job description.
You don't understand the analogy. I thought it was clear, maybe i wasnt so let me try again.
As a person in charge of a unit, who manages an entity - like the president does- if I hire someone to do a job and they fuck up and give me inaccurate info and mislead they're gone.
Trump hired Musk to do a job. Musk gave a shit report full of error and misunderstanding and firing people that had to be rehired because they didn't understand what the agencies do. If I was Trump, and I cared about doing this right and truly getting rid of fraud etc, I'd sack that bloke.
Trump doesn't understand what these groups and agencies so he takes Elon at face value despite the clear documentable errors. He's likely unaware of the errors.
So when musk gets all high and mighty about govt workers doing their job whilst he's pumping out a lot of nonsense in his job...
You don't understand the analogy. I thought it was clear, maybe i wasn't so let me try again.
you are not in charge
you are painting a biased view of the situation that Trump does not buy
this is where you are wrong
you are pretending there is no waste in govt
Trump spent 4 years wading through the swamp and now he wants it drained
Is English ..
So making up stories of fraud and waste is acceptable to you? Or would you rather get accurate info? I imagine you want real ones. Real fraud and abuse? Musk has pumped out a ton of misinformation about what he's doing or saving.
I'm not pretending there is no waste. That came from the recesses of your mind, not my words.
In fact, I've outlined other approaches done back in the 90s that phased out 400,000 us government workers in the 1990s. I'm in favor of going after it. But it's how you do it.
The USA has essentially the same number of government employees now as it had since the 80s. Yet the population is up 50% since then.
according to you
but
you are contradicting yourself
but it has almost 32 X as much debt
debt which now consumes 19.9% of govt revenue in interest payments
the US government debt accumulated over 240 years is projected to double in 9 years given the status quo
this is a debt bomb that has to be addressed now
you will ignore this until it blow up
this makes your opinion irrelevant/ useless
you also mistakenly assume the number of govt employees was optimal in 1980
it was not
#1. The unsustainable level of debt requires a much more urgent approach now
#2. If 400,000 had to go in the 1990s , then the 1980s obviously had too many employees just like now
Elon debugged a database? Probably his database of excuses on how not to pay alimony for his kids...
What does that mean? Millionaires based on what? Do they make a million dollars a year after taxes?
Because if it's based on assets where is the problem?
I'm not contradicting myself. I said it's HOW you do it. You've created a false dichotomy that one either believes there is waste or believes there isn't waste. No one believes its either or. But if i tell you the us government is spending billions on training dragons, but that is patently not true, that does not mean you think there is no waste.
Musk put out examples that turn out to be false. Routinely. What about accurate info - I take it you're in favor of accurate information?
I did not mention the debt. I addressed the myth that the number of govt employees has exploded.
There is more than one way to address the deficit/debt. Includes more raising income and making cuts.economic growth will also change the ratio of debt to gdp.
So we don't disagree. We may differ on how to get there.
