Ford passed the legislation for ripping up the bike lanes TODAY!!
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Except biking is not seasonal. It's a year round activity. Albeit more popular in summer but still it's year round. It's not the cold. People go skiing after all.Well I guess we should close all the other season shit in Canada, like hockey rinks, close all the summer facilities because winter is coming. Ban farming after all its only half a year eh! Seasonality is a curse and a blessing. Its part iof Canada so we need to accept it and embrace it.
Lets agree it is for some. But I agree of they could keep bikelanes clean and dry, it would be quite popular.
Guaranteed that people stuck in traffic trying to get to work on time are more concerned about time (not speed).
I'm talking about moving the most people on all of the roads, as a whole. Not picking and choosing what type of road.
Storea would be much happier if customers could stop and park directly in front of the establishment. It's obviously better for business because it's more convenient for the customers.
Regardless, what has been the effect of installing hundreds of kms of bike lanes in Toronto on traffic. Has it improved or not? Why can't you produce a study that shows that the new bike lanes have improved commute times? Is it because that they have not helped at all? You've told us that roads with bike lanes move faster. The logical conclusion would be that a lot of people are switching to bikes instead of cars. Are there now less cars on the streets? LOL
My guess is that there are more cars than ever and commute times have not improved at all. They are probably worse.
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Guaranteed that people who live and work on Bloor are happier if its safer rather than faster.
There was a study that said travel along bloor only increased by a couple of minutes with bike lanes.
Then you should argue for more buses and more bikes, both of those use less space on roads to move more people.
Wrong again.
Businesses along bloor found that only 4% of their customers arrived by car, with 72% by biking or walking.
Yes, more people are biking, which means Bloor street is moving more people more safely and in a way that is better for business.
Holy Fuck, are you that dumb? Did you even read what I said? Do you know what the GTA is? It stands for the "Greater Toronto Area." Here's a link so you can educate yourself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Toronto_Area In short, it doesn't mean downtown Toronto.
I said, it's typically faster to drive in the GTA than cycling or taking public transit, unless you're traveling along a major transit (subway etc.) route. Use Google Maps if you don't believe me.
And yes, I do know. I cycle upwards of 1500 kms each summer. If I have to travel 30-40 kms in the GTA, the car is the fastest way, 95% of the time.
Balance on Bloor have the recorded and analyzed the 24/7-365 video regarding actual cycling usage on Bloor. If you don't believe their numbers, they'll send you the footage of any particular day so you can count them yourself. What they've recorded is an extremely accurate snapshot of actual cycling usage along Bloor St. West. As opposed to the city's cherry-picked numbers they use to say how busy the bike lanes are. Incidentally, they offered all the data to the city for review, but they weren't interested. Hmmmmm... I wonder why?
The part that wasn't mentioned in this article, was the attack waged by the cycling lobby on The Crooked Cue restaurant. You see, the cameras installed to accurately count cycling usage on Bloor were mounted to the front of the establishment. For that, the cycling lobby flooded the restaurant with bad reviews and negative comments on Yelp, Google etc. What were they afraid of, the truth? What a bunch of assholes!
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/horcsok-time-to-question-cycle-lobbys-misleading-data
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Wow, are you ever so smart.
Did you even read about where the current bike lanes that Ford is proposing to restore to road lanes are located?
Spoiler alert, they are located within the urban, inner city, core of Toronto with exception of the portion located west of the Humber River on Bloor St West in the former Etobicoke. He is not proposing to remove bike lanes in the inner suburbs, suburbs and in the GTA.
He is only proposing to remove bike lanes where they are used the most, where they rival and surpass motor vehicle travel times along these corridors, where shop owners state that cyclists and pedestrians far outweigh motor vehicle drivers as their sources of revenue, where because of pedestrians, cyclists and transit these urban, inner city, local neighborhoods thrive and are not cultural wastelands like the most parts of the GTA.
Saying that it is typically faster to drive in the GTA than cycling or taking transit does not translate to the urban, inner city, local, neighborhoods road and areas of Toronto that Ford's bike lane removal legislation targets, Einstein.
Get off you Bike Lane Monitor Boy tricycle and stay on topic.
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The bike lanes DoFo wants to cut are downtown, on Yonge and Bloor.
We are talking downtown.
If you want to talk about bike lanes in the burbs, go ahead.
You constantly post photos of highway gridlock. To which I replied, the reason for the traffic congestion, is because it's typically faster to drive than cycling or taking public transit. Do you think I'm wrong on that point? Y or N?
I would also argue that even in the urban, inner city areas, in many cases, it's still faster to drive than cycling or taking public transit. Check Google Maps and you'll see for yourself. Although, I expect you won't, because it'll prove that I'm right.
The amount of hate you have for people who choose to drive, in a free country I might add, is truly remarkable. Not everyone is able to walk or cycle to their destination.
Here's another random trip.
CN Tower to Cowell and Danforth TTC station.
Car: 17 mins.
Transit: 40 mins.
Cycling: 41 mins.
Now on a day like today or when it's -10 or pissing rain, given the options, which mode do you think most people would choose?
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If you cared to read what I posted earlier, I said: "News flash. Adding or removing a couple bike lanes in the downtown core, isn't going to change the fact that driving is a faster and more convenient way to get around many parts of the city and province." So yes, I was talking about downtown.
My comments regarding traffic in the GTA, were in reference to the highway congestion photos Anbarandy constantly posts. And when I comment on those highway traffic photos (in this bike lane thread), he tells me to "stay on topic." Fuck man, what weird dude...
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I drive and bike downtown, biking is almost always faster.
Even your CN tower to Coxwell comparison only works if you take the QEW/DVP between rush hours or late at night.
By bike that's 25 minutes.
If you take lakeshore your route becomes 45 minutes.
Not sure where you're biking to/from, but I drive and bike downtown, driving is almost always faster.
Biking from the CN Tower to Coxwell & Danforth in 25 minutes? Who are you, Lance Armstrong? Or do you ride an e-bike and blow every stop sign and red light?
Show me on Google Maps that it's a 25 minute ride.
Google show 20 min by car and 40 min by bike
I bet that Frank neither bikes nor drives
I just checked again, Friday at 6:00 PM. 22 mins by car, 39 mins by transit and 41 mins by bike. Not to mention cycling ain't much fun in these conditions.
You are cherry picking by using the DVP/QEW, Pick a route that doesn't use highways and that's more representative of city driving.
I bike fast, can do Bloor west to Greenwood in about 45 minutes. Likely CN tower to Coxwell/Danforth might take 30 minutes tops.
If you use google maps and get off the highway (which you'd do for about 50% of the day for traffic) you're looking at 30-35 minutes.
This is too much snow for me for biking though, normally its about 3-5 weeks where I don't bike.
