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PeterParker1000

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The fact that they have the 40th longest life expectancy yet spends the most per capita on health care, says otherwise.
Not at all. You’re talking about a completely different issue. What you said has nothing to do with ease of access and number of quality physicians.
We are a fat gluttonous nation.
Corporations push their unhealthy food on us and are allowed to due to lobbying. Canada and EU have much stricter nutrition guidelines. I blame poor life expectancy largely on this.
 

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Not at all. You’re talking about a completely different issue. What you said has nothing to do with ease of access and number of quality physicians.
We are a fat gluttonous nation.
Corporations push their unhealthy food on us and are allowed to due to lobbying. Canada and EU have much stricter nutrition guidelines. I blame poor life expectancy largely on this.
You are not wrong, but there is also another phenomenon that is inherent in a raw capitalistic system.
A private - for pay - health system will inevitably put little effort on prevention of illnesses. That is not generating profits, and therefore not in shareholders interest. Remember, CEOs have a fiduciary responsibility to maximize shareholders interest.

Similarly, the for profit jail system in USA encourages recidivism instead of rehabilitation.
 
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PeterParker1000

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You are not wrong, but there is also another phenomenon that is inherent in a raw capitalistic system.
A private - for pay - health system will inevitably put little effort on prevention of illnesses. That is not generating profits, and therefore not in shareholders interest. Remember, CEOs have a fiduciary responsibility to maximize shareholders interest.

Similarly, the for profit jail system in USA encourages recidivism instead of rehabilitation.
Yes, well put.
 

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We can't be bought. Let them come and take it from us. Would you approve of that?
It really depends...do I support Canadian turning into 51st US? no...we're too big to just be a state. Every province could be a State......what I support is a merger...make it United States of North America...if they have EURO...we'll have a currency that evens out the CAD and USD...
 
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Valcazar

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You have no evidence of whether these programs are necessary or not necessary.
Also, "I don't like this program and think it is silly and dumb" is not the same as "This is corrupt".

You are going by what Elon is telling you on twitter.
And based on screenshots posted there.
A program can be oversimplified and presented as sesame street in Iraq or whatever, but the details are never presented.
Elon has already admitted to lying (or at least to getting the facts wrong) about the programs, hasn't he?

He needs to present details on why these programs are wasteful and do this via established protocols and not on a whim.
The Iraq sesame street or training for SL journalists to use pronouns may very well turn out to be needed programs.
You don't know what you don't know until you dive into the details of it.
Also don't forget that this is all a cover.
He will show you some of these programs and make them appear stupid on social media, while he is really going after agencies such as the CFPB and FEMA, that protects consumers or provides disaster relief.
There is a reason he started with USAID - foreign aid is unpopular in general.
Much easier to see how much pushback on illegal and unconstitutional tactics you get in that scenario, where people aren't too mad about the program going away.
Then when you go after the popular stuff, you can point out that no one complained about the tactics earlier.
 
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richaceg

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Yeah successful in gutting programs that helped people for which the American people will pay.
By the way, all this money saved, how is it being returned back to the tax payer?
You want them to turn $$$ back to tax payers tomorrow? They're still unfolding some of these scandals now...we're just a month since Trump took office...you guys are whining like bitches too early.
Gutting programs...
I'm starting to question your "common sense" or lack of.
do you support these?
-like Trans opera in Colombia
-transgender comic in Peru
-sesame street in Iraq
-DEI musical in Ireland
-Fund tourism in Egypt (Egypt really need 6M $$$ for their tourism?)
 

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You want them to turn $$$ back to tax payers tomorrow? They're still unfolding some of these scandals now...we're just a month since Trump took office...you guys are whining like bitches too early.
Gutting programs...
I'm starting to question your "common sense" or lack of.
do you support these?
-like Trans opera in Colombia
-transgender comic in Peru
-sesame street in Iraq
-DEI musical in Ireland
-Fund tourism in Egypt (Egypt really need 6M $$$ for their tourism?)
Yes I support all of those.
Until you show me that the funds were actually used for those specific purposes, that they were wasteful (which means there was no impact). Or was it for a broader program that is misrepresented in an oversimplified manner to purposefully appear silly?
While you are at it make sure that Elon is gutting funding only to these verified wasteful programs and not ones like CFPB or FEMA. Because he very much is gutting funding for services provided to American citizens.
And you should not be questioning my common sense when your source of information is "Elon the Nazi said so on twitter".
 

richaceg

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Yes I support all of those.
Until you show me that the funds were actually used for those specific purposes, that they were wasteful (which means there was no impact). Or was it for a broader program that is misrepresented in an oversimplified manner to purposefully appear silly?
While you are at it make sure that Elon is gutting funding only to these verified wasteful programs and not ones like CFPB or FEMA. Because he very much is gutting funding for services provided to American citizens.
And you should not be questioning my common sense when your source of information is "Elon the Nazi said so on twitter".
YOu know what FEMA is for?
they didn't have the funds for Hurricane Helene victims...but 59M to house illegal immigrants to hotels...
that's what you support... yeah...I question your common sense...because my sources wasn't Elon...
 
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Valcazar

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Because saying "they sent 59M for migrants" is just the simple minded narrative Elon and Trump want you to consider.
The simpler and more outrageous it sounds the better it is.
But you'd need to go into details of what the 59M was for, who it was sent to, what it was used for. Same with your accusation of them lying.
No one is overseeing the details of any of these "audits".
WTF does Elon know about auditing a federal agency or emergency management?
Create a simplistic narrative, make things seem outrageous and then perform an "audit" and then say you found malpractice with no explanation or evidence.
And tweet those out and everyone in the MAGA cult drinks the kool aid. lol
I'm still not sure why you are asking him to think critically.
It seems cruel.
 
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Valcazar

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Yes I support all of those.
Until you show me that the funds were actually used for those specific purposes, that they were wasteful (which means there was no impact). Or was it for a broader program that is misrepresented in an oversimplified manner to purposefully appear silly?
While you are at it make sure that Elon is gutting funding only to these verified wasteful programs and not ones like CFPB or FEMA. Because he very much is gutting funding for services provided to American citizens.
And you should not be questioning my common sense when your source of information is "Elon the Nazi said so on twitter".
He isn't going to look into what is actually being cut, come on.

But also, once again notice that his list isn't "things that were corrupt", they are "things I don't like".
 

Valcazar

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YOu know what FEMA is for?
they didn't have the funds for Hurricane Helene victims...but 59M to house illegal immigrants to hotels...
Why are you lying about the Hurricane Helene funding?

that's what you support... yeah...I question your common sense...because my sources wasn't Elon...
Yes it was.
These are reports on what Elon said.

Anyway, this is probably the program he is referring to.

 
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Not at all. You’re talking about a completely different issue. What you said has nothing to do with ease of access and number of quality physicians.
We are a fat gluttonous nation.
Corporations push their unhealthy food on us and are allowed to due to lobbying. Canada and EU have much stricter nutrition guidelines. I blame poor life expectancy largely on this.
Sorry, not good enough.

Cherry pick all you want but all the individual factors work together to create your health care system and how much it helps people. And there is no one parameter that is more important or easier to measure that than length of life.

Whatever reasoning you want to choose for the difference between Canada and the US is irrelevant because the outcome is the outcome and that is the bottom line. And the outcome is that the US spends the most on healthcare and has one of the shittiest results in terms of longevity. If you can identify the problems but they don't get fixed, that is still the fault of your health care system. As far as bang for your buck, you guys are popguns while all the countries that have socialized medicine are Big Berthas.

And the biggest waste of resources is the tens, if not hundreds, of billions in profits that the insurance companies make annually. And in actuality, they are part of your health care system. They make your system suck more.
 

richaceg

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Why are you lying about the Hurricane Helene funding?



Yes it was.
These are reports on what Elon said.

Anyway, this is probably the program he is referring to.

they didn't need those funds if they closed the border...they created the problem, then the solution...at the tax payers expense....those days are over...
 
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richaceg

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You are not making any sense.
Your entire argument is "trust me bro, elon said so".
isn't that what you're doing too? trusting the previous admin and how they ran things? You trust Joe Biden and Kamala...lol...Elon earned his $$$ way convincingly than both...or any other democrat you trust...you can't make sense out of my post because you don't have common sense...why am i not surprise.
 

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isn't that what you're doing too? trusting the previous admin and how they ran things? You trust Joe Biden and Kamala...lol...Elon earned his $$$ way convincingly than both...or any other democrat you trust...you can't make sense out of my post because you don't have common sense...why am i not surprise.
No am not.
Am pretty sure there is some wasteful spending.
No government is 100% efficient or will ever be.
I asking for evidence that the ones he is gutting are actually wasteful.
I am asking for oversight and scrutiny and for proper protocols to be followed than Elon's whims.
I am asking to prioritize sensitive information and privacy instead of giving 20 something college kids named Big Ballz access to social security and bank account information.
 
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