Trump: 25% tariffs on ALL steel & aluminium imports from Monday

bver_hunter

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In the past the righties have denounced tariffs as being a Socialist / Marxist / Communist Policy.
Now that Trump has imposed it starting right away as he currently signed it into policy, wonder whether he is now a "Marxist"??
He wants to impose more tariffs when there is retaliation!!

We know that when these tariffs were imposed in the past, the costs rose and then they had to get rid of them.
Yet he and his cronies made the fake claims that 110,000 jobs were "Created"!!
 
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Butler1000

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It's a really stupid move. If the tariff is on steel but not the finished product then imported cars just got cheaper.

And I'm pretty sure the various manufacturers are already screaming over the phone to Congress.
 

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Just to show you how fucked the USA is they actually cheered one of the most putrid maggots on the planet {TRUMP] at the Super Bowl. Trump is probably the most hated sicko on the planet and the USA is rapidly becoming the most hated country on the planet.
Please remember that America is divided. Half the country either likes him or is willing to give him a chance, and half the country can't stand him. In the latter group, we are embarrassed for his words and actions both nationally and internationally.
 

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It's a really stupid move. If the tariff is on steel but not the finished product then imported cars just got cheaper.

And I'm pretty sure the various manufacturers are already screaming over the phone to Congress.
Yup UAW is going YEE HAA. as are the Mexicans. We should put a 25% tariff on US steel rising to 50% in 2 months to allow Canadians business time to adjust,. Of course we should match the tarriff $ for $ on some other red state products.
 
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No.
Executive Orders can be to clarify how the executive will proceed within the scope of what Congress has legislated.
Doesn't have to be emergencies.
But the power to set tariffs and control trade delegated by congress to the president actually is purely an emergency power.

We discussed this before. Previously, he could try to make a lame argument that it was a way to resolve the "border crisis". A judge would have killed and eaten that argument within 20 minutes courtroom time.

But now, he doesn't even have that sad charade to claim an emergency.
 
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Trump euphoria fades quickly for CEOs and bankers as they issue stern warning to Americans


But it appears that, weeks into his presidency, much of that enthusiasm is fading.
Major U-turns on tariffs last week, alongside expectations of rising inflation, are rattling some business leaders, who are unsure about what could happen next.
The deals market just ended its quietest January in a decade, The Wall Street Journal reported.
And executives have begun to use words such as 'fragility', 'volatility' and 'wait and see' to describe their outlooks for businesses.
'Nobody knows what's up,' Nick Pinchuk, chief executive of toolmaker Snap-on, said on a conference call last week.
'It's like being on Space Mountain at Disney World.
'You get on Space Mountain, you get in a car, and you're in the dark and the cars go left and right, left and right and abrupt turns, you don't know where you're going, but you know, you're pretty confident that you're going to get to the right place at the bottom.'


Business leaders are rattled by Trump's U-turns on tariffs last week
Billionaire executives, such as hedge fund manager Bill Ackman, endorsed Trump in his presidential campaign.
And any business leaders and Wall Street investors celebrated Trump's victory in the presidential election, due to optimism around his promise of a pro-growth and pro-business administration.


The president-elect at the time received a hero's welcome at the New York Stock Exchange when he visited in December.
The S&P 500, which tracks the 500 biggest companies in the US, hit record highs last month, as the so-called 'Trump rally' gathered pace.
But Trump's U-turn on tariffs last week has dented some business leaders' confidence.
He announced that he was implementing 25 percent tariffs on imports from Mexico and Canada, only to delay both for a month a few days later.
A number of executives, as well as top investment bankers and other industry advisers, told The Wall Street Journal that their priorities have shifted in recent days to dealing with tariffs and policy issues.
They said they needed to work out their supply routes if the promised tariffs do come into effect, as well as figuring out if they need to raise their prices.
This, in turn, does not leave much space for thinking about deals.
Less than 900 deals were announced in the US in January, according to data from LSEG. That is compared to 1,200 deals last January, and over 1,500 in 2023.


The president-elect at the time received a hero's welcome at the New York Stock Exchange when he visited in December

Many business executives were thrilled at the prospect of a pro-growth administration when Donald Trump won the presidential election last year, but the enthusiasm is fading for some

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum successfully negotiated a deal for a one-month reprieve from tariffs last week
David Galullo, CEO of the San Francisco design firm Rapt Studio, said he tried to remain positive about the new President's early days, despite not having voted for him.
But he said he has been left concerned by Trump's first weeks in power.
He is planning to address his team, but he is at a loss for words because so much is happening so quickly.

'I don't know what to say,' he told The Wall Street Journal.
However there are also some CEOs who are eager to do deals, even if their counterparts may not be.
There were six hostile or unsolicited deals announced in January, a level not seen in a month since May 2018, LSEG data revealed.
Some executives remain optimistic about the year as a whole, and predict there could be more deals than in recent years.
'The much anticipated M&A tsunami of 2025 has yet to make landfall, but the conditions are all still ripe for that to arrive later this year,' Jim Langston, an M&A partner at the law firm Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison, told The Wall Street Journal.
He added that while the past month has been unpredictable, historically M&A activity does not increase after a presidential inauguration until the start of the second quarter.


Trump euphoria fades quickly for CEOs and bankers as they issue stern warning to Americans
 

spacyfoil

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Canadians love socialism to much. It’s like Palestinians loving terror. Unsuitable for adoption.
There are 💯 things about US I don't care for. Mass shootings, intolerance towards different people etc. On our side, everyone seems almost brainwashed. For example, if I complain I don't see cops on 400 series highway, people tell me what is your problem. Sit down, or if you don't like it leave the country. Same with things like carjacking, break-ins, corporation playing Monopolies like cell phones are only few problems here. But no, don't ask questions. Whistle blower is the trouble maker. Lets just pay taxes through our ass and make corporations rich. I am tempted by the idea of becoming US.
 
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There are 💯 things about US I don't care for. Mass shootings, intolerance towards different people etc. On our side, everyone seems almost brainwashed. For example, if I complain I don't see cops on 400 series highway, people tell me what is your problem. Sit down, or if you don't like it leave the country. Same with things like carjacking, break-ins, corporation playing Monopolies like cell phones are only few problems here. But no, don't ask questions. Whistle blower is the trouble maker. Lets just pay taxes through our ass and make corporations rich. I am tempted by the idea of becoming US.
So crime including break-ins and carjacking are nonexistent along with corporations taking advantage of folks in the US?
 

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The Smoot-Hawley Tariffs made Hitler Chancellor of Germany. The Great Depression would not have been so severe without them. Hitler was 43 when he took power, Trump will be 79 in June. Like China, America is addicted to pork, half of America couldn't survive without the good ole pork barrel.

David Byrne predicted this.

 

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Being the opposite of Danielle Backstabber Smith, Legault is calling on the Feds to put export tariffs on ALuminum. His reasoning? Quebec produces 75% of the aluminum in N. America and has a massive advantage in low cost energy, .It would hammer US aluminium users and they would struggle with replacing supply from Quebec. In turn Quebec can seek foreign buyers if they lose business.
 

shack

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In the past the righties have denounced tariffs as being a Socialist / Marxist / Communist Policy.
Remember, the tDS is strong.

The righties prefer making themselves look like complete pathetic hypocrites rather than defy his highness. Their personal image and honour mean nothing next to his aura.

This is a pure, unmitigated Jonestown cult.
 
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shack

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The Smoot-Hawley Tariffs made Hitler Chancellor of Germany. The Great Depression would not have been so severe without them. Hitler was 43 when he took power, Trump will be 79 in June. Like China, America is addicted to pork, half of America couldn't survive without the good ole pork barrel.

David Byrne predicted this.

Along with Neil and Pete he is one of my 3 all-time rock heroes.

Was that song a political message? I'm bad at interpreting the meaning of many songs?
 

spacyfoil

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So crime including break-ins and carjacking are nonexistent along with corporations taking advantage of folks in the US?
No it isn't nonexistent 💯 What I am saying is, it way less. For example, I know people who own Toyota Highlander in States who don't think twice before parking outside overnight. Try parking one night in Toronto. I bet 💯 you know someone who either had their car stolen or carjacked here in the last two years. Try living in USA in nicer progressive places like NJ. You basically work half and make a lot more.

Life is easier in States. Yes we have a lot of natural resources in Canada. I have been in Canada for over a quarter century. No new highways, housing is shit. No new hospitals. New immigrants pile up, pay taxes, but share the same resources like healthcare, or same schools. Where does their tax go?

Yup tariffs gonna be on both sides. We will get even more poor. For what? What am I fighting for? To go broke?
 
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