Level Of Democrat Panic Over Musk Freezing USAID "Unlike Anything Ever Seen"

richaceg

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You think it's useless. Other people think it's useful.

It should be properly audited and evaluated and that's not by Trump's pet, neo nazi plutocrat major donor.
Yeah because the audit from before really worked....you question Elon who came in already richer than anybody else...but don't question those who entered politics with less and are now millionaires? You leftists will never learn a thing...
 

richaceg

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In that case, I'm going to object to speed cameras in my neighourhood and get them banned and my tax dollars returned. Because - as a taxpayer - I have to right to a line-by-line veto of anything I dislike and a refund.
You can cry about it...those speed cameras save lives...sesame street in Iraq doesn't....it's a 90 day freeze for fucks sakes. Liberals know nothing but whine when they lose.
 

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It was always used politically.
Doesn't mean that some of that money wasn't needed and does mean it won't easily be replaced or renewed again.
Perhaps, its likely the money will just be redirected to another NGO, but at least some of the largess and abuses get exposed.
 

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This one has been fact-checked and determined to be almost certainly false.

It really puts in question everything on the USAID list that Republicans are complaining about, or at least the items that seem more outrageous. Yet we see time and again Republicans pushing their lies and deceptions in the media, thinking Americans are stupid. And like clockwork, gullible people unquestioningly propagate the lies.
 

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This one has been fact-checked and determined to be almost certainly false.

It really puts in question everything on the USAID list that Republicans are complaining about, or at least the items that seem more outrageous. Yet we see time and again Republicans pushing their lies and deceptions in the media, thinking Americans are stupid. And like clockwork, gullible people unquestioningly propagate the lies.
It simply means those 50 million dollars ended up elsewhere. Most likely in someone's pocket. Even though it was assignment to Gaza condoms. This is how money laundering works. If you didn't understand b4. You're welcome.
 

Valcazar

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Considering the use of omnibus bills I would contend that Congress doesn't actually know what they are voting on on a line by line basis. They get a 1000 page bill a few days before the vote.
Oh, the flaws in the current system are well known.
Doesn't change the illegality of what Musk is doing.

You can say legally it is their job, but if they aren't doing it then someone has to step in.
Unsurprising you support the authoritarian moves of the oligarch.
 
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JohnLarue

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Some people are addicted to conspiracy theories, like meth. It would be better to do some actual research.
that's what Musk is doing, he is researching the money laundering techniques of the democrats.
and apparently the defensive for the wide spread tax dollar waste and government corruption appear to be based on conspiracy theories surrounding Musk's motivations for the audit

its like a child getting caught with his hands in the cookie jar just before dinner
"not fair , you should not be watching me, ...... your mean"
 

JohnLarue

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This one has been fact-checked and determined to be almost certainly false.
where is the money ?

It really puts in question everything on the USAID list that Republicans are complaining about, or at least the items that seem more outrageous. Yet we see time and again Republicans pushing their lies and deceptions in the media, thinking Americans are stupid. And like clockwork, gullible people unquestioningly propagate the lies.
where is the money ?

this is the question the taxpayer / electorate want answered

and it will be the question a judge or jury will want answered
partisan rhetoric and blithering rants will be ruled inadmissible nonsense
financial transaction records do not lie

where is the money ?
 

Valcazar

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This one has been fact-checked and determined to be almost certainly false.

It really puts in question everything on the USAID list that Republicans are complaining about, or at least the items that seem more outrageous. Yet we see time and again Republicans pushing their lies and deceptions in the media, thinking Americans are stupid. And like clockwork, gullible people unquestioningly propagate the lies.
Everything you've seen in the list comes from https://www.usaspending.gov/
None of it is from secret files uncovered by Elon.
They are just spinning the numbers like in the fake condom story.
They know that their base will just run with the fake story and even make up rationalizations to themselves because they want to believe.

Exhibit A, below.

It simply means those 50 million dollars ended up elsewhere. Most likely in someone's pocket. Even though it was assignment to Gaza condoms. This is how money laundering works. If you didn't understand b4. You're welcome.
 
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Mr.Gr33k

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Everything you've seen in the list comes from https://www.usaspending.gov/
None of it is from secret files uncovered by Elon.
They are just spinning the numbers like in the fake condom story.
They know that their base will just run with the fake story and even make up rationalizations to themselves because they want to believe.

Exhibit A, below.
Funny! Very very funny!

How much proof did you want or need from all the anonymous sources who shit on Trump, Republicans and anyone that you oppose politically or otherwise??

Allegation was more than plenty for years! Media ate it up and amplified it. People like you simply went like "Yeah! We knew it all along!"

And even now, instead of focusing on the information uncovered, the collective Left goes Ad Hominem on the messengers.
 
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Valcazar

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Funny! Very very funny!
It's not really.
It's sad and dangerous.

How much proof did you want or need from all the anonymous sources who shit on Trump, Republicans and anyone that you oppose politically or otherwise??
Quite a bit.

Allegation was more than plenty for years! Media ate it up and amplified it.
Even if you believed that, why are you admitting that you are just throwing out unfounded allegations?
Wouldn't you want to prove you are better than that?

I mean, look at how you embarrassed yourself with that condom story.

And even now, instead of focusing on the information uncovered, the collective Left goes Ad Hominem on the messengers.
I am focused on the information uncovered.
I've pointed out it wasn't "uncovered" at all, but has been in a public database set up by the Obama administration years ago.
I've pointed out that when asked to present evidence in court of the waste and fraud, Musk and company weren't able to do so.

We're still waiting for Musk to post any evidence at all.

The question remains, of course, what Musk and his DOGE team are really doing with the computers, since they don't appear to be doing any kind of audit.
 
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that's what Musk is doing, he is researching the money laundering techniques of the democrats.
and apparently the defensive for the wide spread tax dollar waste and government corruption appear to be based on conspiracy theories surrounding Musk's motivations for the audit
Where is the evidence of money laundering and widespread waste and corruption ? Some rumor you read on Twitter ?
 

Valcazar

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Where is the evidence of money laundering and widespread waste and corruption ? Some rumor you read on Twitter ?
See the other thread, where apparently "Musk posting on Twitter" is evidence.
(I can also re-post the court order where the judge pointed out that they didn't bother to support their claims with evidence when the judge asked them to.)
 

JohnLarue

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Where is the evidence of money laundering and widespread waste and corruption ? Some rumor you read on Twitter ?
musk is displaying it

the democrats are freaking out over the wrong issue
they are focused on process but can not answer the fundamental question

where did the money go ?
 
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JohnLarue

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See the other thread, where apparently "Musk posting on Twitter" is evidence.
(I can also re-post the court order where the judge pointed out that they didn't bother to support their claims with evidence when the judge asked them to.)
where is the money ?
 

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It's not really.
It's sad and dangerous.



Quite a bit.



Even if you believed that, why are you admitting that you are just throwing out unfounded allegations?
Wouldn't you want to prove you are better than that?

I mean, look at how you embarrassed yourself with that condom story.



I am focused on the information uncovered.
I've pointed out it wasn't "uncovered" at all, but has been in a public database set up by the Obama administration years ago.
I've pointed out that when asked to present evidence in court of the waste and fraud, Musk and company weren't able to do so.

We're still waiting for Musk to post any evidence at all.

The question remains, of course, what Musk and his DOGE team are really doing with the computers, since they don't appear to be doing any kind of audit.
You wouldn't accept evidence if it came from Trump, Musk or someone on the right even if it hit you dead in the face. There'll be one more reason why it's not enough or evidence isn't authentic or some made up shit to make yourself feel better.

As far as feeling embarrassed, Lefties don't have any shame, like ever. They shut the F up when they're dead wrong, marinate in silence until a problem goes away or they're screaming at the top of their lung like spoiled brats
 
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