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bver_hunter

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The Oracle said:
www.ctvnews.ca

Trump says Israel would hand over Gaza after fighting, no U.S. troops needed

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Thursday that Israel would hand over Gaza to the United States after fighting was over and the enclave’s population was already resettled elsewhere, which he said meant no U.S. troops would be needed on the ground.
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“The Gaza Strip would be turned over to the United States by Israel at the conclusion of fighting,” he said. Palestinians “would have already been resettled in far safer and more beautiful communities, with new and modern homes, in the region.” He added: “No soldiers by the U.S. would be needed!”

Now answer this...Was Oct 7th really worth it?
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Hahahahah, this was him desperately trying to walk back what he actually stated in the first place:

U.S. President Donald Trump said Tuesday he wants his country to take ownership of the Gaza Strip and redevelop it after Palestinians are displaced elsewhere.

"We will own it and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons on the site," Trump said at the start of a joint news conference with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

"I do see a long-term ownership position," Trump said when asked about the U.S. controlling the territory for an extended period, adding that he is not ruling out sending U.S. troops in to secure Gaza.
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Answer this question that I asked you in the first place. Was the above an appropriate statement? All the Nations in that region except Israel condemned his statement. They stated that there is no way that the Palestinians should be displaced against their will!!

You desperately try to distract about Oct. 7th. We have spoken about it on numerous occasions where I denounced what Hamas did then.
But you will not answer this question. Was it alright for Israel to react by killing over 47,000 mainly women and children as well as razing not only the homes and businesses in Gaza to the ground, but also hospitals, all in the name of "Tunnels" where Hamas was supposed to be "hiding"?
 
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bver_hunter said:
But you will not answer this question. Was it alright for Israel to react by killing over 47,000 mainly women and children as well as razing not only the homes and businesses in Gaza to the ground, but also hospitals, all in the name of "Tunnels" where Hamas was supposed to be "hiding"?
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How many of those 47,000 were Hamas fighters or agents?
 
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The Oracle said:
How many of those 47,000 were Hamas fighters or agents?
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Close to 20,000. Yet Hamas does not look like it is being eliminated.
But the latest is now almost 62,000 mainly women and children were killed, as bodies are being recovered from the rubble.
Great deflection by oracle to avoid answering the question. So once again:

Was it alright for Israel to react by killing over 61,000 mainly women and children as well as razing not only the homes and businesses in Gaza to the ground, but also hospitals, all in the name of "Tunnels" where Hamas was supposed to be "hiding"?

www.aljazeera.com

Deaths from Israel’s attacks on Gaza close to 62,000 as missing added

Local authorities add 14,000 people, missing and presumed dead, to the list.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com
 
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1887649605447197143

Lindy Li reveals that the Biden campaign felt pressured to prop Biden up because they thought so little of the alternative, Kamala: Shawn Ryan: "Why did they prop him up?" Lindy Li: "Because the alternative for them was so dire. The alternative for them would have been Kamala Harris, they thought she was such a shitty candidate, that they had to prop him up. They didn't hate her, they just thought so little of her. They just didn't think she was capable of litigating a campaign, and they were right." The Biden campaign was just like the rest of America: They thought very little of Kamala Harris.
 
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bver_hunter said:
Close to 20,000. Yet Hamas does not look like it is being eliminated.
But the latest is now almost 62,000 mainly women and children were killed, as bodies are being recovered from the rubble.
Great deflection by oracle to avoid answering the question. So once again:

Was it alright for Israel to react by killing over 61,000 mainly women and children as well as razing not only the homes and businesses in Gaza to the ground, but also hospitals, all in the name of "Tunnels" where Hamas was supposed to be "hiding"?

www.aljazeera.com

Deaths from Israel’s attacks on Gaza close to 62,000 as missing added

Local authorities add 14,000 people, missing and presumed dead, to the list.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com
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So in a space of a few minutes you've jumped from 47,000 to 62,000...Hmm...And you're using Aljazeera as your source.

I see they using the requisite buzzwords, genocide and far-right, in the article...Shocking...A real partisan viewpoint, lol.

Listen it's hard to get around those human shields that Hamas uses....Why don't they just come out and fight? We all know why. They want to drive up the body count so they can escalate the PR damage. They're soulless murders.
 
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The Oracle said:
So in a space of a few minutes you've jumped from 47,000 to 62,000...Hmm...And you're using Aljazeera as your source.

I see they using the requisite buzzwords, genocide and far-right, in the article...Shocking...A real partisan viewpoint, lol.

Listen it's hard to get around those human shields that Hamas uses....Why don't they just come out and fight? We all know why. They want to drive up the body count so they can escalate the PR damage. They're soulless murders.
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The 62,000 is for those who went missing and were unaccounted for. What is wrong with Aljazeera, when they have journalists on the ground in Gaza, and even some of them were killed by the IDF? Now that the Palestinians have discovered more bodies that were missing, that is the latest update. Stop living in denial!!

But rightie media like Fox is allowed to consider anyone left of them as "Radical Left" "Socialist" "Communist" and we see your buddies on this board that suck up to it. Did see your "likes" to such posts. I guess there is only one side of the Spectrum according to oracle!!

Again you have conveniently sidestepped the question...... Ohh well Oracle at play!!
 
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What is wrong with Aljazeera, when they have journalists on the ground in Gaza, and even some of them were killed by the IDF?
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They're funded by Qatar...Same place where all the Hamas royalty in living...Hmmm...Wonder what's going on there.
 
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I don't remember how many times I've asked that question. I keep telling Team hamas that it was stoopid. The leader of Team hamas refuses to admit it. He thinks it was smart because Israel got bad PR for their response.
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Right, while you have declared that the occupation was smart, apartheid was smart and committing genocide was smart.
While declaring you back the views of Meir Kahane.

That's so smart.

Now you back a pariah state lead by a war criminal, facing charges at the ICC and ICJ and global boycotts.


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The Oracle said:
So in a space of a few minutes you've jumped from 47,000 to 62,000...Hmm...And you're using Aljazeera as your source.

I see they using the requisite buzzwords, genocide and far-right, in the article...Shocking...A real partisan viewpoint, lol.

Listen it's hard to get around those human shields that Hamas uses....Why don't they just come out and fight? We all know why. They want to drive up the body count so they can escalate the PR damage. They're soulless murders.
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Trump met with Netanyahu and then publicly announced that only 1.8 million Palestinians are still living in Gaza.
That means trump and Netanyahu think Israel killed 600,000.

Do you believe them?

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The Oracle said:
Was Oct 7th worth it?
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Was the occupation of Palestine worth it?
Was apartheid worth it?
Was the blockade worth it?
Was the genocide worth it?

Was turning the US and Israel into pariah states worth it?
www.aljazeera.com

It is time to move the UN and international law out of the West

Israel’s impunity has brought us to a tipping point where the current international system is no longer viable.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com


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bver_hunter said:
Was it alright for Israel to react by killing over 47,000 mainly women and children as well as razing not only the homes and businesses in Gaza to the ground, but also hospitals, all in the name of "Tunnels" where Hamas was supposed to be "hiding"?
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Minus the 20,000 hamas militia that are included in that total.

Who else would have been in the miles and miles and miles of fortified tunnels? They sure weren't letting Gazan civilians in there.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Was the occupation of Palestine worth it?
Was apartheid worth it?
Was the blockade worth it?
Was the genocide worth it?

Was turning the US and Israel into pariah states worth it?
www.aljazeera.com

It is time to move the UN and international law out of the West

Israel’s impunity has brought us to a tipping point where the current international system is no longer viable.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com


https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1887555602219737600
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Was Oct7th worth it?
 
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bver_hunter said:
Close to 20,000. Yet Hamas does not look like it is being eliminated.
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So why do you disingenuously post that 47,000 died, making it sound like they were innocent casualties. And if you are counting 47K, and 20K of those were hamas, it is highly unlikely that they were mainly women and children. Of the 27K non-militia deaths, only 4K of those need to be adult males for the women and children to be a minority of the 47K dead. Sorry, you can't have it both ways.
 
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