Tariffs on Canada delayed for 30 days after talk between Trudeau and Trump. Trump folds.

DesRicardo

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And you have figured this out just now ?
that does not matter to him
Just proves how unhinged he is.

But lets see him tell us USMCA was the worst trade deal of all-time.

I know people like you will make excuses. Actually, he'll probably tell some lie and you guys will roll with it.
 

shack

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.The rats know when the ship is sinking

Sure they will a whole pile of Nazis made their way to South America
a rats survival instinct kicks in
Fleeing for one's life is not equivalent to raising your hand in legislature to prop up Hitler. But even during the war, when millions of Jews were led to gas chambers, they were still supporting Hitler. Even his level of evil was not enough for them to dissent. The GoP seem to be willing to do whatever it takes prop up trump. Liberals baled because they were down in the polls. That is not cultish behaviour. Sorry. If Trudeau initiated a Canadian version of Jan.6, he'd be left standing with his dick in his hands.

people generally vote in their own best interest
You are correct in that. Americans think that trump wants to help the common man and act in their best interests. They are wrong in that. trump is self-serving. End of story. (my personal opinion.)
if Trump is successful he will retain support
if he is not, he wont
He did learn something from his first go round, and upgraded the his team
Agree 100%
it would require something along the lines of a constitutional change to allow him to run for a 3rd term
And his upgraded team is rapidly helping him with that. He is busting down walls in the Department of Justice and weaponizing it. He is very capable of throwing dissenters in jail to silence them. He already has a 6-3 stacked Supreme Court. He has a majority of Governors in power and most of them are probably willing to change election laws to support him remaining in power.

And this is just 2 weeks in. He's got plenty of time to get everything lined up for that constitutional change. Please don't dismiss this possibility out of hand. One must at least retain some belief that this is a possibility. None of us can read trump's mind and shouldn't automatically put it past him. In fact, I believe that is his exact plan.

it looks like its Carney.
and he wants to offload the consumer carbon tax burden onto the corporate sector
while trump is going to cut the tax burden on the US corporate sector
jobs, companies and investment dollars will flow south.to the US
Carney has spoke of UBI , a great ideologically driven gift to the electorate, but a recipe for economic disaster

I truly believe, that Canada absolutely must elect Pierre P in order to not get run over economically by Trump
There is no guarantee Pierre P can prevent that from happening, but we will have fighting chance with him.
Another liberal govt will put Canadian unity at great risk as well. Alberta has had enough of the Trudeau family , they wont stand for Trudeau 3.0
TBH, you never actually answered my question directly. PP has nothing to do with me asking if the the next liberal leader will be more or less left wing than Trudeau. You stated a couple of his policies but did not state where you feel Carney stands on the political spectrum compared to Trudeau. Is he more or less left wing wing than JT. Just interested in your opinion on where the party is going.
 

WyattEarp

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Another quote that flushes down Trumputin's golden toilet.
It was pretty much a general comment that takes in the perspective of the last hundred years.
 

JohnLarue

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lol, You act like he wasn't an inch away from getting his head blown off a few months back. I don't have to do anything. He has enough enemies right now.
how so mafioso of you

I am not a fan of his, but I certainly hope nobody assassinate him
all hell would brake loose


If he doesn't tone it down, no he will not make it 4 years.
The pace out of the gate has been rapid , so obviously he cant run like this for 4 years
he apparently is a workaholic , 16+ hrs / day
He is also 78 , so maybe age will catch up to him

But I predict he will continue to fold. You can only speak bullshit for so long.
do not count on it, he has been communicating (bullshitting if you prefer) like this his whole life
He is not done with Canada, he wants to claim he got a better deal on the USMCA
gots to feed that ego.


maybe some of his domestic agenda projects get off the rails or some geopolitical event happens that will divert his attention
but gots to feed that ego.
 

WyattEarp

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And his upgraded team is rapidly helping him with that. He is busting down walls in the Department of Justice and weaponizing it. He is very capable of throwing dissenters in jail to silence them. He already has a 6-3 stacked Supreme Court. He has a majority of Governors in power and most of them are probably willing to change election laws to support him remaining in power.

And this is just 2 weeks in. He's got plenty of time to get everything lined up for that constitutional change.
You and others can do a little reading on the high hurdles to change the U.S. Constitution.
Or, or, we can spend the next three years literally entertaining this fantasy.
 
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Naturally she is going to lie to you to protect your image of her. If you only knew squeegee, if you only knew..... But don't take my word for it. Mitch was there too....
That is impossible, Mitchy is in MaroLago cleaning his King's balls and feeding him Quarter Pounders so please stop lying.
 
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shack

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You and others can do a little reading on the high hurdles to change the U.S. Constitution.
So you are saying that there are hurdles but you are not saying that it is impossible.

If it's not impossible it means that we must consider the possibility. The potential outcome is too serious to simply ignore.
 

WyattEarp

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So you are saying that there are hurdles but you are not saying that it is impossible.

If it's not impossible it means that we must consider the possibility. The potential outcome is too serious to simply ignore.
You claim you're reasonable and pragmatic. Read the U.S. Constitution. Google AI will take you to how to amend the Constitution.

Then tell us this all comes to be in the next three years.
 
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JohnLarue

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WTF ?

How can you even remotely expect to portray yourself as being be honest(TBH) when you try to ring fence the discussion??

do you think i have not seen that before?

you never actually answered my question directly.
a very convenient way for you to avoid the issue


PP has nothing to do with me asking if the the next liberal leader will be more or less left wing than Trudeau.
the question is irrelevant if the replacement is not intended to make a major shift

TBH i really do not think any of the liberal candidates will move far away from Trudeau enough to avoid a disaster
they all devotedly followed a moron and did not suddenly become competent intelligent or capable , Caney included, he has been Trudeaus economic advisor and the results speak for themselves

you completely ignored/ erased the most important point
because you do not want to have to talk about the reality
that is not TBH


Read this
I truly believe, that Canada absolutely must elect Pierre P in order to not get run over economically by Trump
There is no guarantee Pierre P can prevent that from happening, but we will have fighting chance with him.
Another liberal govt will put Canadian unity at great risk as well. Alberta has had enough of the Trudeau family , they wont stand for Trudeau 3.0


You stated a couple of his policies but did not state where you feel Carney stands on the political spectrum compared to Trudeau. Is he more or less left wing wing than JT. Just interested in your opinion on where the party is going.
hopefully to the election woodshed for a very through and very deserved beating
they will be decimated , possibly lose official party status , an exorcism of the WEF agenda and the corruption

It will be important they rebuild after that with their traditional left / center positioning
it is critical to have credible viable choices for the electorate for a properly functioning democracy
 

WyattEarp

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That post makes no sense.

Why would he lie about what his opinion is? What would that accomplish?

However, I am not surprised that you made a post like this.
You're taking it too literally.
 
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JohnLarue

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The point is that not enough people think for themselves and just blindly follow party lines on every topic and I find it disappointing.
is this thinking for yourself?

JohnLarue said:
Carney has spoke of UBI , a great ideologically driven gift to the electorate, but a recipe for economic disaster

I truly believe, that Canada absolutely must elect Pierre P in order to not get run over economically by Trump
There is no guarantee Pierre P can prevent that from happening, but we will have fighting chance with him.
Another liberal govt will put Canadian unity at great risk as well. Alberta has had enough of the Trudeau family , they wont stand for Trudeau 3.0
This is the liberal trick to avoiding accountability
" I dont like it and do not want to discuss it"
So lets redact that part

who do you think you are fooling?
Mr. I m objectively analysing the parts I like to look at

you asked a question
i answered it

Have I struck through shit? Yes
When it was pure repetitive crap from a fool that had been address properly and certainly not a sincere direct answer to a question I have asked

who do you think you are fooling?
 
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