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[Frankfooter]

You will not bait me and I'm not going down your rabbit hole.

I made a factual claim about Israel's borders and you have been unable to refute it. End of story.

Talking about other events and countries is simply a diversion.

You can't even place Israel's borders on a map and now you think you made a 'factual claim' about them?
Your argument is that after the UK promised to give Palestinians their land back and regeneged that once they were attacked and put under occupation you think they should have accepted it. Which is the exact same as arguing that Ukraine should not resist the occupation by Russia and just hand over the land.

If you make an argument you need to be able to back it up.

 

[MaverickPunter]

You're now bragging about the Nabka?

The Nakba (Arabic: النَّكْبَة, romanized: an-Nakba, lit. 'the catastrophe') is the ethnic cleansing[4] of Palestinian Arabs through their violent displacement and dispossession of land, property, and belongings, along with the destruction of their society and the suppression of their culture, identity, political rights, and national aspirations.[5] The term is used to describe the events of the 1948 Palestine war in Mandatory Palestine as well as the ongoing persecution and displacement of Palestinians by Israel.[6] As a whole, it covers the fracturing of Palestinian society and the long-running rejection of the right of return for Palestinian refugees and their descendants.[7][8]
During the foundational events of the Nakba in 1948, approximately half of Palestine's predominantly Arab population, or around 750,000 people,[9] were expelled from their homes or made to flee through various violent means, at first by Zionist paramilitaries, and after the establishment of the State of Israel, by its military. Dozens of massacres targeted Palestinian Arabs and over 500 Arab-majority towns, villages, and urban neighborhoods were depopulated,[10] with many of these being either completely destroyed or repopulated by Jews and given Hebrew names. Haganah employed biological warfare against Palestinians by poisoning village wells. By the end of the war, 78% of the total land area of the former Mandatory Palestine was controlled by Israel.

A false narrative is presented above.

For a fuller explanation, see the tweet by Imtiaz Madmood at the link below

History of the Naqba

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https://x.com/imtiazmadmood/status/1838905391125504232/mediaviewer

 

[Klatuu]

How can one measure how much they like wallowing in self pity and being martyrs to their own misery?

Every accusation by a Ziontologist is a confession. And that one is a whopper.

 

[shack]

Straight question: Suppose that the Arab leaders at that time had accepted what was offered and formed the State of Palestine. Do you think that those people and their descendants would be better off or worse off than they are now. Better or worse.

TBH, It's basically a rhetorical question but I suspect that you won't give a straight answer. I'm expecting some kind of deflections or spinning.

I knew you wouldn't answer.

It's blatantly obvious, even to your Little Buddy, I suppose, that in retrospect, the Palestinian people would be immeasurably better off now if they'd accepted the land and had their own state to do with and live as they please instead of having been refugees for 80 years.

Your refusal to answer is an admission that you know I'm correct.

 

[Klatuu]

You will not bait me and I'm not going down your rabbit hole.

I made a factual claim about Israel's borders and you have been unable to refute it. End of story.

Talking about other events and countries is simply a diversion.

It has already been refuted and you ran. Like all grubby Ziontologists do.

 

[shack]

You specifically claimed that Israel was the most peaceful after 1948, just after the Nabka.

I made no such claim, nothing even close. You are putting words in my mouth. That is your interpretation.

Find me the quote where I used those words.

 

[Frankfooter]

I made no such claim, nothing even close. You are putting words in my mouth. That is your interpretation.

Find me the quote where I used those words.

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You just cited "since 1948". That was when the state of Israel was created and its' borders at that time were established and recognized as such as can be seen on world maps and globes from then. One has to accept that because before then, there was no Israel.

Those borders remained the same until 1967 and the 6 Day war. It was only then, and following future aggressions against Israel that one can argue that Israel's legal borders possibly expanded.

As such, my original point stands.

You are arguing that committing the Nakba lead to years of peace.
Same argument you make with the ongoing genocide.

 

[shack]

sigh

You are arguing that committing the Nakba lead to years of peace.
Same argument you make with the ongoing genocide.

Once again, you have no quotes of mine to prove what you say. You don't want honest debates, just put words in my mouth to initiate arguments.

 

[Frankfooter]

Once again, you have no quotes of mine to prove what you say. You don't want honest debates, just put words in my mouth to initiate arguments.

Are you denying that you have been arguing that 1948-1967 were years without attacks?
Will you apologize and admit that you are the one that lies when I provide the quotes?

 

[basketcase]

Who wiped Palestine off the maps?

Jordan and Egypt.

 

[Leimonis]

Jordan and Egypt.
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[shack]

Are you denying that you have been arguing that 1948-1967 were years without attacks?

My posts are very clear and I stand by the words I typed. Feel free to reread my posts as often as you like until you get the words right. You keep changing them.

Will you apologize and admit that you are the one that lies when I provide the quotes?

If you actually provided my actual post(s)/quotes there would be no dispute over what I said. I could not possibly lie about what I said. But you don't. You keep changing the wording to make your own interpretation. Therein lies the problem.

You need to be an honest debater if you want honest debates instead making false accusations in an effort to cause arguments. Your tactics are obvious to all.

 

[Frankfooter]

Jordan and Egypt.

Truman's map is better.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1884970964188012807

 

[Frankfooter]

My posts are very clear and I stand by the words I typed. Feel free to reread my posts as often as you like until you get the words right. You keep changing them.


If you actually provided my actual post(s)/quotes there would be no dispute over what I said. I could not possibly lie about what I said. But you don't. You keep changing the wording to make your own interpretation. Therein lies the problem.

You need to be an honest debater if you want honest debates instead making false accusations in an effort to cause arguments. Your tactics are obvious to all.

Right here.

You stick to your parameters and I'll stick to mine. Your 3rd map proves my point. Nothing changed between 1948 and 1967

 

[MaverickPunter]

You're now bragging about the Nabka?

The Nakba (Arabic: النَّكْبَة, romanized: an-Nakba, lit. 'the catastrophe') is the ethnic cleansing[4] of Palestinian Arabs through their violent displacement and dispossession of land, property, and belongings, along with the destruction of their society and the suppression of their culture, identity, political rights, and national aspirations.[5] The term is used to describe the events of the 1948 Palestine war in Mandatory Palestine as well as the ongoing persecution and displacement of Palestinians by Israel.[6] As a whole, it covers the fracturing of Palestinian society and the long-running rejection of the right of return for Palestinian refugees and their descendants.[7][8]
During the foundational events of the Nakba in 1948, approximately half of Palestine's predominantly Arab population, or around 750,000 people,[9] were expelled from their homes or made to flee through various violent means, at first by Zionist paramilitaries, and after the establishment of the State of Israel, by its military. Dozens of massacres targeted Palestinian Arabs and over 500 Arab-majority towns, villages, and urban neighborhoods were depopulated,[10] with many of these being either completely destroyed or repopulated by Jews and given Hebrew names. Haganah employed biological warfare against Palestinians by poisoning village wells. By the end of the war, 78% of the total land area of the former Mandatory Palestine was controlled by Israel.

More Nakba fairy tales

In reality....

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[Frankfooter]

More Nakba fairy tales

In reality....

no

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1864439786515161279

 

[shack]

Right here.

Correct. You have one map for the entire period of 1948-1967. That is what I said. The borders stayed the same from Israel's inception in 1948 until 1967.

 

[Frankfooter]

Correct. You have one map for the entire period of 1948-1967. That is what I said. The borders stayed the same from Israel's inception in 1948 until 1967.

Like I said, you are claiming it was peaceful after the Nabka.

 

[shack]

Like I said, you are claiming it was peaceful after the Nabka.

I am claiming that the borders did not change. You are saying something else. You have no right to change what I am saying.

 

[MaverickPunter]

The real Nakba