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Israel wiped Palestine off the maps, its what you've wanted, isn't it?
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Israel wiped Palestine off the maps, its what you've wanted, isn't it?
I'm not interested in your faulty rationalizations for colonization, apartheid and genocide.
I really don't care about your incredibly wrong version of history.
Israel has been occupying all of Palestine, including Jerusalem, Gaza and the West Bank since 1948.
Israel needs to end the occupation and obey international law.
You have repeatedly stated you don't think the state of Palestine exists, meaning you think Israel has wiped it off the maps.
That is a fair comment.
Palestinians fought for the UK in WWII under the promise that they would be given their homeland back.
The UK lied to them.
You just cited "since 1948". That was when the state of Israel was created and its' borders at that time were established and recognized as such as can be seen on world maps and globes from then. One has to accept that because before then, there was no Israel.
Those borders remained the same until 1967 and the 6 Day war. It was only then, and following future aggressions against Israel that one can argue that Israel's legal borders possibly expanded.
As such, my original point stands.
Let's say that you're 100% correct, that they got a raw deal.
But the fact remains that even that raw deal included more than enough land for an actual State of Palestine for 5 or 6 million Palestinians to live and develop instead of still being stateless refugees almost 80 years later.
Straight question: Suppose that the Arab leaders at that time had accepted what was offered and formed the State of Palestine. Do you think that those people and their descendants would be better off or worse off than they are now. Better or worse.
TBH, It's basically a rhetorical question but I suspect that you won't give a straight answer. I'm expecting some kind of deflections or spinning.
In light of recent rulings, I am really trying hard to keep my posts measured and rationally composed instead of allowing myself to get emotionally triggered. Sometimes it takes more verbiage to accomplish that.
How can one measure how much they like wallowing in self pity and being martyrs to their own misery?
You're now bragging about the Nabka?
During the foundational events of the Nakba in 1948, approximately half of Palestine's predominantly Arab population, or around 750,000 people,[9] were expelled from their homes or made to flee through various violent means, at first by Zionist paramilitaries, and after the establishment of the State of Israel, by its military. Dozens of massacres targeted Palestinian Arabs and over 500 Arab-majority towns, villages, and urban neighborhoods were depopulated,[10] with many of these being either completely destroyed or repopulated by Jews and given Hebrew names. Haganah employed biological warfare against Palestinians by poisoning village wells. By the end of the war, 78% of the total land area of the former Mandatory Palestine was controlled by Israel.
Is that like arguing that Ukraine should just hand over half of the country to Russia because.....
Like in another post today when you attempt to put words in my mouth, I will not engage.
If you want to debate honourably, I'm ready to listen.
You are claiming that Israel achieved peace in 1948, after they committed the Nabka.
Are you denying when and what happened, along with what you said?
Its a fair comparison, you argue that you think Palestinians should have allowed foreign colonialists to just take half of their country the way Putin wants to take Ukraine.
Feel free to tell me why you think that's different.
You keep putting words in my mouth.
I clearly stated my claim several times and you are not accurately quoting me.
Or geography. In 1966, it was Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt. A year later POS Nation would launch an invasion of 3 of those countries.What kind of education does he have?
You will not bait me and I'm not going down your rabbit hole.
I made a factual claim about Israel's borders and you have been unable to refute it. End of story.
Talking about other events and countries is simply a diversion.
You specifically claimed that Israel was the most peaceful after 1948, just after the Nabka.
No wonder you've been defending genocide, its the same idea after all.
Kill your way to 'peace'.
