Trump orders the transfer of Trans inmates from Women's prisons to Men's

[The Oracle]

People with common sense know that gender identity and sex are different.
I depend on trusted sources of research to educate me on this.
Stepping away from gender a little bit, generally speaking, our understanding of the world has repeatedly evolved over time.
It is in our best interests to evolve with these times, than stick to our biases and look to sources that confirm those biases.

What is gender? What is sex? - CIHR

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The final word...

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

The final word...

Am not interested in the intellectual dark web....

 

[The Oracle]

Am not interested in the intellectual dark web....

You're not interested in intellectual truth...

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

You're not interested in intellectual truth...

I am.
Which is why am not interested in the intellectual dark web....(I've watched that entire podcast by the way).

 

[danmand]

The US is the best place you can live if you want to maximize your potential. It is set up so talent gets rewarded. That’s why the best talent wants to come here. No offense to everyone but Canada has gone to shit. As bad as America got in the last 4 years, it can’t compare to how bad it got in Canada. EU is even worse. The only other place I would choose besides the US is Japan.

You are at least partly right
USA is a great place to make a lot of money (I did)
When you get old, Canada is good. You get universal health care for most things, and you can go to USA for urgent things.And it is safer.
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[PeterParker1000]

I am.
Which is why am not interested in the intellectual dark web....(I've watched that entire podcast by the way).

You’re not interested in truth at all. You make what you want to.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

You’re not interested in truth at all. You make what you want to.

MAGA aren't the ones speaking the truth.
So as much as you like to assert it is, it isn't.

 

[PeterParker1000]

You are at least partly right
USA is a great place to make a lot of money (I did)
When you get old, Canada is good. You get universal health care for most things, and you can go to USA for urgent things.And it is safer.
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Legit comment. Thank you making sense and not going off the rails like Oatmeal.

Despite what you’ve seen on the news, safety is not an issue. Very interesting that externally it is starting to get viewed this way. Possibly the BLM riots and NYC subway crimes, California looting? They’re isolated and most Americans have never experienced this. All of the above you can blame on the democrats.

I don’t know anyone who legally has a permit to carry a gun. I’ve lived in densely populated areas and have seen maybe one fist fight in my live outside the typical fights you see at the bar scene.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

You are at least partly right
USA is a great place to make a lot of money (I did)

For you, for me, for PeterParker1000 may be.
Educated and privileged people can.
Poor people are working 3 jobs to make ends meet with no proper social safety nets.

 

[Valcazar]

Why is their possible rape/sexual assault more desirable than housing them in women's prisons (which I am not strictly an advocate of)?

I'm surprised the rape jokes didn't start in the first post.
Waiting until post #3 was restraint for this crew.

 

[cumstainz]

Why is their possible rape/sexual assault more desirable than housing them in women's prisons (which I am not strictly an advocate of)?

Because they rape women in women's prisons. So do women to men trans prisoners get to be housed in women's prisons too? Both types of transsexuals get to be housed in women's prisons, is that fair?

 

[Valcazar]

A psycho doctor isnt the origin of the "trans movement". lol.

It's an article of faith among this crew that Money invented the whole thing.
Holy writ for them.

 

[Butler1000]

Legit comment. Thank you making sense and not going off the rails like Oatmeal.

Despite what you’ve seen on the news, safety is not an issue. Very interesting that externally it is starting to get viewed this way. Possibly the BLM riots and NYC subway crimes, California looting? They’re isolated and most Americans have never experienced this. All of the above you can blame on the democrats.

I don’t know anyone who legally has a permit to carry a gun. I’ve lived in densely populated areas and have seen maybe one fist fight in my live outside the typical fights you see at the bar scene.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Because they rape women in women's prisons. So do women to men trans prisoners get to be housed in women's prisons too? Both types of transsexuals get to be housed in women's prisons, is that fair?

Yes, I think it is fair.
Trans people in general face lots of discrimination, systemic abuse and sexual violence chiefly at the hands of men.
So it is fair to house them in women's prisons (where they may not be entirely safe either, but possibly better than male prisons).
Maybe they should have trans men and trans women units separately, I dont know.
I am aware of a case where a male prisoner purposefully pretended to be trans and raped a female prisoner.
But how many cases of trans women raping women in prisons have occurred? I am guessing if it had, it is probably a couple of outliers.
On the contrary there is tons of evidence of trans women being raped in male prisons.
So it doesn't make sense to do something that is already proven to be very dangerous for the inmate.

 

[cumstainz]

Yes, I think it is fair.
Trans people in general face lots of discrimination, systemic abuse and sexual violence chiefly at the hands of men.
So it is fair to house them in women's prisons (where they may not be entirely safe either, but possibly better than male prisons).
Maybe they should have trans men and trans women units separately, I dont know.
I am aware of a case where a male prisoner purposefully pretended to be trans and raped a female prisoner.
But how many cases of trans women raping women in prisons have occurred? I am guessing if it had, it is probably a couple of outliers.
On the contrary there is tons of evidence of trans women being raped in male prisons.
So it doesn't make sense to do something that is already proven to be very dangerous for the inmate.

You've lost the plot, even for a leftie. Trannies are treated well in male prisons. Usually become the property of the alpha male who treats the tranny well.

Plus if they lose their tranny meds they won't look female for long.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

To be fair what 'you believe' and the collective desires of Canadians coast to coast are two vastly different things. You're welcome to believe that but it doesn't make it so. I happen to believe that Canadians too are awakening to the fact that this movement was a mistake and needs to be addressed as such. 'Identifying' as something does not make it a reality and once you start accepting 'identifying' as a basis for belief you're on a slippery slope. That being said if I decided to 'identify' as the rightful Prime Minister of Canada does't that by default make it so? I mean, cmon, I really believe it. Way down at the bottom of my soul so I'm Prime Minister, right? The concept is flawed and from a evidence based perspective there are 2 genders, male and female. In all species. And it's assigned at birth despite what mental illness is leading you to 'believe'

You analogy is logically and scientifically flawed followed by an assertion of your own biases.
Not worthy of being addressed.
The trans issue is not really an issue anywhere.
You hardly meet any trans people in your life.
That is because there are just a few 1000 trans people in Canada.
It is not a movement or a conspiracy either.
It is a civil rights issue imo and Canada has already taken the right steps.
So there is nothing to address. Non issue.
It's drummed up as an issue by the MAGA cult.
In Canada people prioritize affordability, housing, cost of living etc and most people are accepting of trans people.
Except for a few MAGA aficionados.
It is not even an issue candidates usually comment on.
Even Pierre just brushed it off as personal business.

 

[WetSeeker]

Lots of new bitches are going to be transferred - it is definitely a policy I agree with, no way a biological man should be in a women's prison - that's wrong
Same with no men playing women in sports - that's another policy that must change around the world

 

[danmand]

Lots of new bitches are going to be transferred - it is definitely a policy I agree with, no way a biological man should be in a women's prison - that's wrong
Same with no men playing women in sports - that's another policy that must change around the world

I don't care where the trans people are incarcerated, as long as they are safe and are treated with dignity, which unfortunately is not the case in the USA or Canadian prisons.

 

[WetSeeker]

I don't care where the trans people are incarcerated, as long as they are safe and are treated with dignity, which unfortunately is not the case in the USA or Canadian prisons.

No way should we build prisons for trans - that is nuts, let them live in segregation if needed but enough of the whole two spirit nonsense
Lesbians and gays have functioned in prisons forever, if a trans person is in prison they will no doubt be treated as bitches but I'd rather that then have women possibly raped by them

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Can you provide a 'scientific' study that proves unequivocally that there are 43 genders in the human species?

Why are there hundreds of countries with zero trans populations? For example what is the trans population in say Iran?

In Canada people accept what they are told to accept including highly inept leadership. Canadians are the most passive, apologetic, accepting population on the planet.We do as we're told without question and as a result we have a badly broken country. I'm hoping that begins to change with the incoming party.

Give him some time, he has to take that position until he becomes Prime Minister. I have a feeling you're in for a surprise(or two).

Many health and research institutes accept that sex and gender identity are different.
Why do you claim that you know more than them?

What is gender? What is sex? - CIHR

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There are no countries with zero trans populations.
Some may report and some may not. Some may legally recognize and some may not.
By the way in Iran, the freedoms are very limited, and people may be harassed, but they do recognize trans people.

Transgender rights in Iran - Wikipedia

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Beginning in the mid-1980s, however, transgender individuals were officially recognized by the government, under condition of undergoing sex reassignment surgery, with some financial assistance being provided by the government for the costs of surgery, and with a change of sex marker on birth certificates available post-surgery.
And yes, Canada is accepting because it is a civilized nation. No true Canadian wants that to change.
Do you propose we now adopt sharia and ban trans people? Not sure what you are smoking but it has to be strong.
Also trans rights are legally protected in Canada. Canada ranks 3rd in the global trans rights index.
You know because we are civilized. Let us strive to keep it that way.

Global Trans Rights Index: 203 Countries Ranked in 2023

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