Trump orders the transfer of Trans inmates from Women's prisons to Men's

Shaquille Oatmeal

Well-known member
Jun 2, 2023
3,612
3,223
113
No way should we build prisons for trans - that is nuts, let them live in segregation if needed but enough of the whole two spirit nonsense
Lesbians and gays have functioned in prisons forever, if a trans person is in prison they will no doubt be treated as bitches but I'd rather that then have women possibly raped by them
So basically you are okay with rape as long as it is trans people being raped.
When you hardly even encounter one of the 50K trans people in Canada in your everyday life, who haven't done anything to you.
Aren't you the manly man white knight. lmao.
 
  • Like
Reactions: danmand

Bucksnort

Well-known member
Jan 3, 2023
285
270
63
I bet you can't wait for the conjugal visits. The only free sex you will ever get in your pathetic life
Interesting how you insult publicly but keep begging me via pm for some of my cum stained underwear for you to jerk off to.

You‘re such a disgusting pathetic vile uneducated worthless excuse for a human, but in a sickening way you’re a great incentive for me to feel blessed I have my great life instead of yours.

Thanks for that. Please keep insulting, it invigorates me and my lovely life. If only you knew. if only you knew. 🤣
 

dirtydaveiii

Well-known member
Mar 21, 2018
7,661
5,434
113
Interesting how you insult publicly but keep begging me via pm for some of my cum stained underwear for you to jerk off to.

You‘re such a disgusting pathetic vile uneducated worthless excuse for a human, but in a sickening way you’re a great incentive for me to feel blessed I have my great life instead of yours.

Thanks for that. Please keep insulting, it invigorates me and my lovely life. If only you knew .
Wow I seem to have struck a nerve. Why are all you conservatives so thin skinned ? You have quite the weird little imagination
 

Leimonis

Well-known member
Feb 28, 2020
10,029
9,831
113
So basically you are okay with rape as long as it is trans people being raped.
When you hardly even encounter one of the 50K trans people in Canada in your everyday life, who haven't done anything to you.
Aren't you the manly man white knight. lmao.
All kind of people can be raped in prisons. Weak people, young people, disabled people, stupid people, degenerate gamblers, junkies are all at a disadvantage. Maybe if you can’t stand up for your self don’t go to prison.
That constant worrying about losers and minorities of all kinds is what got Trump elected
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

Well-known member
Jun 2, 2023
3,612
3,223
113
All kind of people can be raped in prisons. Weak people, young people, disabled people, stupid people, degenerate gamblers, junkies are all at a disadvantage. Maybe if you can’t stand up for your self don’t go to prison.
That constant worrying about losers and minorities of all kinds is what got Trump elected
Kowtowing to MAGA on cultural and social issues will only embolden them and make them stronger.
There needs to be pushback and I believe there will be as a natural consequence.
Losers or not, just because one is in prison, doesn't mean we should facilitate their rape.
 

Leimonis

Well-known member
Feb 28, 2020
10,029
9,831
113
Kowtowing to MAGA on cultural and social issues will only embolden them and make them stronger.
There needs to be pushback and I believe there will be as a natural consequence.
Losers or not, just because one is in prison, doesn't mean we should facilitate their rape.
The whole woke democratic movement is mostly a claimed care and support for losers and minorities of all kind.
And look, it got people annoyed so much that they voted for a felon in White House.
Maybe we should care about losers a little less?
 
  • Like
Reactions: whynot888

Shaquille Oatmeal

Well-known member
Jun 2, 2023
3,612
3,223
113
Maybe we should care about losers a little less?
And undo decades of progress on civil rights and equality? No thanks.
Yes, we should instead care less about these MAGA losers and not embolden them more by kowtowing to their pressure.
They win an election due to multiple factors and your suggestion is to just wave the white flag?
 

Knuckle Ball

Well-known member
Oct 15, 2017
7,490
3,687
113
I would hope that they would move the trans women into some sort of protective custody if they are sending them to a mens facility.
 

Leimonis

Well-known member
Feb 28, 2020
10,029
9,831
113
And undo decades of progress on civil rights and equality? No thanks.
Yes, we should instead care less about these MAGA losers and not embolden them more by kowtowing to their pressure.
They win an election due to multiple factors and your suggestion is to just wave the white flag?
It’s hard enough to justify caring about losers when majority of people wants it. It’s harder to justify when people vote to not care about them.
 

Knuckle Ball

Well-known member
Oct 15, 2017
7,490
3,687
113
What to know about President Donald Trump’s order targeting the rights of transgender people
What to know about President Donald Trump’s order targeting the rights of transgender people
Image

An executive order President Donald Trump signed on his first day back in office offers a new federal government definition of the sexes that could have a major impact on transgender people nationwide.

The order calls for the federal government to define sex as only male or female and for that to be reflected on official documents such as passports and policies such as federal prison assignments. As for federal spending, it’s not clear what his vow to end broader gender classifications will mean on the ground.

Many of the provisions are likely to be challenged in court.

Here’s a look at the order.

Related Stories
Defining male and female based on cells that don’t exist at conception
The order declares that there are just two sexes, male and female. It rejects that people can transition from one gender to another or be considered something other than male or female such as nonbinary, which describes people who don’t identify as strictly men or women, or intersex.

The position reflects what many social conservatives have called for — and conflicts with what the American Medical Association and other mainstream medical groups say: that extensive scientific research suggests sex and gender are better understood as a spectrum than as an either-or definition.

Trump’s order says it is intended to protect women’s spaces from those who “self-identify” as women.

It defines the sexes in an unconventional way, based on the reproductive cells — large cells in females or small ones in males. And it suggests that humans have those cells at conception.

Biologists say that’s a problem because egg cells develop many weeks later, and sperm cells are produced at puberty, not at conception.

“At that stage, sexual differentiation has not started to take place,” said Carl Bergstrom, a University of Washington evolutionary biologist. “I can’t see any logically coherent way to interpret the definition in this executive order, given the addition of the phrase ‘at conception.’”

Bergstrom said a scientific explanation could specify sex chromosomes, but the executive order seems to deliberately avoid that, presumably to sidestep the range of variations that include intersex people, who have physical traits that don’t fit typical definitions for male or female categories.

What parts of the order are in effect?
The order has been signed, but much of it requires more federal action.

“Nothing is in effect,” said Heron Greenesmith, deputy director of policy at the Transgender Law Center.

The executive order tells one White House staff member to draft a bill for Congress within 30 days that would codify the definitions into law.

Federal agencies must tell the president within 120 days what they’ve done to comply with the order. Some parts might require going through the regulatory process or passing new laws.

Omar Gonzalez-Pagan, a Lambda Legal lawyer, said on a call with journalists this week that the order does not change current law but rather creates “a clear signal and road map of where this administration’s policies lie when it comes to transgender people.”

State laws on participation in sports, bathroom use, gender-affirming care and other issues are not directly affected.

What does it mean for federally issued documents?
The order calls for passports, visas and Global Entry cards to reflect the administration’s definition of sexes.

The State Department, which is responsible for passports, declined to answer questions about the current state of policy. The order suggests getting rid of the “X” designation that has been available on passports since 2021 after a long legal battle waged by an intersex activist.

A department webpage that described how people could change their gender marker was taken offline, and Chase Strangio, an ACLU lawyer, said it’s unlikely that any new application to change the gender marker on a passport will be approved.

A White House spokesperson told the news outlet NOTUS this week that passports that have not expired will remain valid. But people will have to comply with the new order when they apply for a new passport or renew an old one.

What about transgender federal prison inmates?
The order contains specific details on how it should apply in federal prisons, which house nearly 2,300 transgender inmates — about 1.5% of the total population.

It calls for housing transgender women — there are more than 1,500 — in men’s prisons, and for halting gender-affirming medical care.

At least two transgender inmates have had government-funded gender-affirming surgery in recent years as a result of court orders. A larger number have received other treatment, such as hormones.

Sarah Warbelow, legal director at Human Rights Campaign, said court orders that grant inmates access to treatment remain in effect, even if federal policy changes.

The ACLU says it’s heard from some defense lawyers that incarcerated transgender women were being moved into isolation or being told they would be transferred to men’s prisons.

The Bureau of Prisons did not respond to questions about whether inmates are to be moved.

Will this stop Medicaid from paying for gender-affirming care?
Medicaid, a joint federal-state health insurance program for lower-income people, covers gender-affirming care in some states.

Former President Joe Biden’s administration adopted a rule to make it do so nationally. But judges put that on hold.

So far, it’s unclear what might happen to the coverage in states that chose to offer it.

Lindsey Dawson, director of LGBTQ health policy at the health policy research organization KFF, said that eliminating the coverage where it’s already in place would likely involve a long process — and, like others, would probably face court challenges.

___
The Associated Press Health and Science Department receives support from the Howard Hughes Medical Institute’s Science and Educational Media Group and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. The AP is solely responsible for all content.

Image
GEOFF MULVIHILL

Mulvihill covers topics on the agendas of state governments across the country. He has focused on abortion, gender issues and opioid litigation.
CARLA K. JOHNSON
Johnson covers research in cancer, addiction and more for The Associated Press. She is a member of AP’s Health and Science team.



Sounds like there are some limits to what Trump can actually accomplish through Executive Order but it is concerning nonetheless as he can still impose a good deal of harm.
 

Bucksnort

Well-known member
Jan 3, 2023
285
270
63
Wow I seem to have struck a nerve. Why are all you conservatives so thin skinned ? You have quite the weird little imagination
Ha! If only you knew. But you’re such a stupid excuse for a human, you’ll never have the chance to know.
I think I’ve spent enough of my great life on such low level scum. This will be the last time I spend one precious second on someone as vile and inconsequential as you.
My feed will now be minus your uneducated vile and totally stupid posts.
Ciao baby 😘
Over and out.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

Well-known member
Jun 2, 2023
3,612
3,223
113
It’s hard enough to justify caring about losers when majority of people wants it. It’s harder to justify when people vote to not care about them.
Didn't stop people from caring for or supporting the actual losers from 2020 in 2024 even though people voted to not care about them.
So no reason the left should stop pushing back against attacks on people's civil rights either.
 

Vinson

Well-known member
Nov 24, 2023
1,887
1,655
113
CANADA: Trans-Identified Male Charged After Allegedly Sexually Assaulting Multiple Women While Staying At A Women’s Shelter


A trans-identified male in Edmonton, Alberta, has been charged after allegedly sexually assaulting multiple women at a women’s shelter in the city. Mika Lin Katz, 37, is also known as Michael Collins.

On January 24, the Edmonton Police Service (EPS) issued a press release on the incidents, revealing that Katz had first come to their attention in August of 2024 after two women came forward to report they had been victimized by Katz. Following an investigation, Katz was arrested and charged with two counts of sexual assault.

Despite the serious nature of the charges, Katz was then released with conditions, including to not contact or communicate with any of the complainants; not possess any weapons, firearms or ammunition; and not be within 50 meters of any women’s shelter in Alberta.

However, two additional victims have since come forward and reported that Katz had also victimized them in August of 2024 at the same shelter. The incidents took place on different days. On Thursday, January 23, Katz was re-arrested by EPS and faces two additional charges of criminal harassment and sexual assault.

The EPS is now asking any additional complainants to come forward, as Katz is believed to have potentially victimized more women.
Screenshot 2025-01-26 190358.png

Anyone who feels they may have been harmed by Katz is asked to contact the EPS at 780-423-4567

Reduxx has identified multiple social media profiles believed to belong to Katz, including one where he claims to have started taking cross-sex hormones in January of 2024. Katz identifies himself using “she/her/they/them” pronouns, and utilizes a “transgender pride” banner across several of his Facebook accounts.

On one of his Instagram accounts, Katz calls himself a “woman trapped in a man’s body”,” and follows a number of transgender and lesbian-focused pornography accounts.

Katz also operated a profile on ChatKK, a free chat site, seeking “female friends” explicitly, and claiming to have been “widowed due to unforseen” circumstances.

This is not the first incident involving a trans-identified male being accused of sexually assaulting women at a female shelter in Canada.

In April of 2023, a man was apprehended in Windsor, Ontario, in relation to a sexual assault that had taken place at a local women’s shelter. The suspect was identified by Windsor Police Service as 32-year-old Desiree Anderson, also known as Cody D’Entremont. Anderson, who appears to have since detransitioned, was later acquitted of the charges after his lawyer argued that the victim was not credible.

Similarly, in 2022, it was reported that a woman was allegedly raped by a sex offender at a women’s shelter in West Parry Sound after the predator identified as transgender in order to gain access to the facility.

Shane Jacob Green, 25, was arrested on August 24, 2022, by Ontario Provincial Police (OPP). At the time, the OPP issued a notice stating Green had been charged with two counts of sexual assault, four counts of failing to comply with a probation order, and one count of failing to comply with a release order. But it was later revealed that the crimes had occurred while Green was staying in a local women’s shelter.


Despite Canada’s vast size, there is only one known single-sex shelter in the country.

Vancouver Rape Relief (VRR), located in British Columbia, is Canada’s oldest rape crisis shelter. In 2019 it was stripped of its city funding after asserting it had a right to provide services to females only. Trans activists successfully lobbied the city government to make the shelter’s funding contingent on accepting males who identified as transgender.

As a result of its hardline stance on being exclusively for women in need, VRR was targeted by trans activists repeatedly in incidents of disturbing vandalism which included nailing the corpses of dead animals to its charity shop door.

 
  • Like
Reactions: The Oracle

dirtydaveiii

Well-known member
Mar 21, 2018
7,661
5,434
113
Kowtowing to MAGA on cultural and social issues will only embolden them and make them stronger.
There needs to be pushback and I believe there will be as a natural consequence.
Losers or not, just because one is in prison, doesn't mean we should facilitate their rape.
Prison rape sure would look good on Trump after what he did to so many women
 
  • Like
Reactions: Shaquille Oatmeal

WetSeeker

Well-known member
Jun 23, 2020
582
613
93
So basically you are okay with rape as long as it is trans people being raped.
When you hardly even encounter one of the 50K trans people in Canada in your everyday life, who haven't done anything to you.
Aren't you the manly man white knight. lmao.
I said put them in segregation and while I do not support rape, if it was a choice between a trans man in a male prison or a trans man raping a woman I would choose the former every day. It is insane that mentally ill trans men are allowed to be in female safe spaces. I will not apologize for being pro women on that point.
Would you support a trans male person in your daughters change room, washroom or prison cell?
 
  • Like
Reactions: The Oracle

Shaquille Oatmeal

Well-known member
Jun 2, 2023
3,612
3,223
113
I said put them in segregation and while I do not support rape, if it was a choice between a trans man in a male prison or a trans man raping a woman I would choose the former every day. It is insane that mentally ill trans men are allowed to be in female safe spaces. I will not apologize for being pro women on that point.
Would you support a trans male person in your daughters change room, washroom or prison cell?
Since they are not raping anyone, and it is them that were getting raped, I guess then you should be okay with them staying in women's prisons?
As for your second question, a trans male person would want to be in the male change room,
You probably wanted to ask if Id be okay with a trans woman in my daughters change room and the answer is, yes, I would be. (with the caveat that this trans woman doesn't show up with a beard and a beer belly lmfao).
 

WetSeeker

Well-known member
Jun 23, 2020
582
613
93
Since they are not raping anyone, and it is them that were getting raped, I guess then you should be okay with them staying in women's prisons?
As for your second question, a trans male person would want to be in the male change room,
You probably wanted to ask if Id be okay with a trans woman in my daughters change room and the answer is, yes, I would be.
So biological men who claim to be women should be in women's prisons according to you? You believe they don't rape women or won't ever rape women?
What about the rights of women to be naked in private spaces?
You are okay with biological males in your daughter's change rooms or showers while they are claiming to be women? Is that correct?
 
  • Like
Reactions: The Oracle

dirtydaveiii

Well-known member
Mar 21, 2018
7,661
5,434
113
Since they are not raping anyone, and it is them that were getting raped, I guess then you should be okay with them staying in women's prisons?
As for your second question, a trans male person would want to be in the male change room,
You probably wanted to ask if Id be okay with a trans woman in my daughters change room and the answer is, yes, I would be. (with the caveat that this trans woman doesn't show up with a beard and a beer belly lmfao).
Why are white conservative men so bent on trans using the same washrooms and showers as they do ?
 
Toronto Escorts