Trump freezes Ukraine aid, SPARES ISRAEL

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To pass as a qualified president of the U.S. you have to be
a poodle of its master. Trump is after all a good poodle of
Israel. That should lift ranking of his presidency in history
well above the absolute bottom.
 
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It's a bit unclear to me that he made any exception for Israel.
There are funds which are long-term treaty obligations that this doesn't touch and Israel gets a lot of money from that, but it isn't the only country to do so.
(And those funds can't be stopped by executive order.)

Edit - I know he gave the Secretary of State the right to waive the freeze on any given program or money, so maybe Rubio did something concerning Israel here that I missed?
 

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Putin cannot simply withdraw from Ukraine without achieving some form of tangible success. At a minimum, he aims to secure control over eastern Ukraine. Meanwhile, Trump’s actions of reducing military and financial aid to Ukraine are indirectly aiding Putin by shifting the burden of support onto the European Union. This undermines NATO’s unity, sending a signal to Russia and the world that the alliance is fractured. Trump is playing politics and using human lives as chess pieces.
 
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To pass as a qualified president of the U.S. you have to be
a poodle of its master. Trump is after all a good poodle of
Israel. That should lift ranking of his presidency in history
well above the absolute bottom.
Are you saying that trump is afraid of Israel? The only person trump serves is trump. Everybody knows that.

You guys need to get it through your combined thick and racist skulls and admit that Israel is the US' greatest ally in the region and does a lot of work and provides intelligence to the US.

Hey, Oily&Gassy, who in the region is a greater ally to the US than Israel? Who else has a western style democracy. Which country does more for the US than Israel in the area? Who else provides an active deterrence to Iran and has severely hampered their nuclear program. Mel Lastman (aJew) had the answer. Not sure how many "O"s were in there.

Every administration since Israel's inception has supported Israel because Israel is important to the US. It is the fantasy of all Jew haters that tiny Israel somehow has this magical and unexplainable stranglehold around the neck of the US. There is no other logical explanation as to why the US supports Israel other than Israel is an ally that protects US interests in the region and provides intelligence. The Israeli intelligence agencies are arguably the greatest in the world. I highly suspect that they helped the US track down bin Laden. You must admit that it is at least in the realm of possibility.

The saying is that the simplest answer is the correct answer. Open your collective eyes to reality and stop with the conspiracy theories that reveal your bias against Israel.
 

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To pass as a qualified president of the U.S. you have to be
a poodle of its master. Trump is after all a good poodle of
Israel. That should lift ranking of his presidency in history
well above the absolute bottom.
It is truly amazing that you can buy the foreign policy of USA for $100M.
 
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They never had a choice, both parties are aligned with Israel.
True.
The Dems would have still been better for them than Trump.
Netanyahu prefers Trump to the Dems, so you vote for the same candidate your supposed enemy prefers?
Doesn't seem to make sense to me.
 
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shack

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It is truly amazing that you can buy the foreign policy of USA for $100M.
Do you know the saying that if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is?

This is right along those those lines. You sound incredulous that the foreign policy of the US could be bought for such a seemingly paltry amount.

Well, that's for good reason. You are correct. It can't. It's a stupidly low amount for something so valuable. The US supports Israel because Israel is a valuable asset to the US and helps protect other US assets in the region that are probably worth hundreds of billions of dollars, if not more, along with the vital intelligence they provide. Nobody in the region does more to protect American interests in the Middle East. Is anybody willing to say with 100% certainty that it's not possible that some bit of Israeli intelligence helped the US locate bin Laden?

And if it's strictly money and such a small amount why don't other Arab nations outspend Israel 100 fold to curry such important US favour? The Saudis already spend that and it's just for golf. You guys are hilarious. Unfortunately for you, it's unintentional LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Thank you for helping me prove my point, once again, that US support for Israel has nothing to do with any money sent the US' way. It has to do with geopolitical strategy.

You guys always sound so ridiculous talking about the tail wagging the dog. Reality is that the US is always and only looking out for #1, themselves. Supporting Israel is for no other reason than to look out for themselves and their interests.

Once again, the anti-Semitic hate does not allow you people to see reality clearly even though it's staring you right in the face. This is just one more anti-Semitic trope like Jews have big noses, Jews are cheap, Jews control the world banking system, Jews have space lasers. Keep exposing yourselves.

Keep up the good work, guys.
 
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mellowjello

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You're asking me?

mellowjello said:
They never had a choice, both parties are aligned with Israel.

LOL. It was you who used that wording. Don't you know who you meant when you used the word "they"? I just repeated after you.
I'm asking you, who do YOU mean when you're saying they.
Everything's a shit show with you.

Who do YOU mean when you say THEY?
It's not a trick question.
 

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I'm asking you, who do YOU mean when you're saying they.
Everything's a shit show with you.

Who do YOU mean when you say THEY?
It's not a trick question.
I understand.

TBH, it doesn't matter because everybody always has a choice. The parties have choices and the voters have choices. Now you have a choice. "They" can be whoever you want them to be. What is your choice.
 

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I understand.

TBH, it doesn't matter because everybody always has a choice. The parties have choices and the voters have choices. Now you have a choice. "They" can be whoever you want them to be. What is your choice.
What?????!!!!
Ok.........
 

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There are people getting killed in Russia Ukraine too. If preventing aid to Ukraine, stops this war, nothing wrong it.
Few terb mates are too obsessed with Palestine and hate against Jews. And every thread is pulled to Palestine and hate against Israel.
Muslim brotherhood ?
 
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