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POS NATION has no intention of abiding by ceasefire

shack

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You recognize and acknowledge that the demand to form Palestine exists just like 140+ countries do.
I think many Israelis already do presently.
I don't think that Israel refuses the concept of a Palestinian state. Right now, they refuse to accept hamas being in control of a neighbouring state. Hamas' stated goal is the destruction of Israel and the elimination of Jews from river to sea.
 

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But the risk of taking a chance that it will happen is too great. That risk is Israel's very existence. If Israel loses even one war, it means that they are gone.
Brainwashed from birth. The logic of racism. It’s the same script as South Africa expressed by todays Afrikaner’s.
 

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I don't think that Israel refuses the concept of a Palestinian state. Right now, they refuse to accept hamas being in control of a neighbouring state. Hamas' stated goal is the destruction of Israel and the elimination of Jews from river to sea.
Every accusation by a Ziontologist is a confession.
 

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But the risk of taking a chance that it will happen is too great. That risk is Israel's very existence. If Israel loses even one war, it means that they are gone.
That risk will always exist but I think it is low because Israel is way more powerful than its neighbours.
But it is as Leimonis said.
If the assessment is that they'd prefer a conflict like this over a Palestinian state, then there is no use expecting peace.
 

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I don't think that Israel refuses the concept of a Palestinian state. Right now, they refuse to accept hamas being in control of a neighbouring state. Hamas' stated goal is the destruction of Israel and the elimination of Jews from river to sea.
I agree Hamas cannot be part of Palestinian governance even if they exist as a fringe movement.
Someone else has to take up that mantle.
 

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All 90 Palestinian hostages released were women or children under 18. Israel then went and took 64 more hostages.
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Still promoting the idea that arresting people for cause is the same as kidnapping elderly and toddlers from their home simply for being jews?

I know in the other thread you said jews just being there is a provocation but sane and moral people think otherwise.
 

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Which is actually Israel and Hamas.

It would be nice to give the Biden Administration a victory of some sort on the way out, but it looks to me Israel is tired and Hamas is exhausted. This is only a ceasefire this is not a peace deal.
Bidens people and the Qataris did the legwork and the threat of trump's unpredictability helped seal the deal. Is it so hard to admit both played a role?
 

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Racism?

Israel is the military occupying power, its not racist to resist an illegal occupation.
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Yes, hamas' long stated stance against the presence of jews in the region is racism, just like your refusal to accept Arabs can make their own choices and jews are in some world conspiracy are signs of your racism.
 

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Still promoting the idea that arresting people for cause is the same as kidnapping elderly and toddlers from their home simply for being jews?

I know in the other thread you said jews just being there is a provocation but sane and moral people think otherwise.
Still promoting the idea that arresting people for cause is the same as kidnapping elderly and toddlers from their home simply for being Palestinian?
Wait, Israel does both.

 
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Yes, hamas' long stated stance against the presence of jews in the region is racism, just like your refusal to accept Arabs can make their own choices and jews are in some world conspiracy are signs of your racism.
You are lying, that is not their long stated stance. You lie to demonize Palestinians in order to justify genocide and apartheid.
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Still promoting the idea that arresting people for cause is the same as kidnapping elderly and toddlers from their home simply for being jews?

I know in the other thread you said jews just being there is a provocation but sane and moral people think otherwise.
Still arguing that Israelis have the right to take Palestinian's hostage but not the other way around?
POW, hostage, prisoner, administrative detention.
Use whatever label you want, its all the same.

 

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