The Ontario government has started sending out $200 cheques to taxpayers

[Anbarandy]

Can somebody please take the keyboard away from this idiot?

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You're denser than I thought!

Do you see that figure under Current Outlook for the Surplus/Deficit?

What does it say?

Well golly gee Clem, it says a Deficit of $6.37 BILLION!

That's what matters. That's the key number.

A In-Year Change of a March/24 projection means shit. It's meaningless.

The deficit was projected to be $3.437 billion on OCT/24 UNTIL Thug Fraud added $3.2billion to it because of his 18-month early election bribery scheme.

Dense as an oak.

 

[DesRicardo]

^^^^And this guy is allowed to vote.

Can't read a simple income statement but is allowed to have an opinion on public policy. Then you wonder why we are failing as a country. They'll vote for any shill because they are illiterate.

I feel bad for calling him illiterate, but he is. I literally screenshot the Projected, Actual and Difference and he still can't work it out. What do you want me to do? You tell me. And then since he's so confident in his wrongness, think about how many other people get misguided. That's how falsehoods become true.

"Oh, you need more immigration" "What do you mean there are no illegals in America" "You can change your gender". I'm not even a huge Trump guy, but I fucking understand. At some point you say "fuck it, let's see what's down this path because i can't take these fools anymore". It just gets to that point.

I don't know. Thank you for reading my rant. Let me know how you feel.

 

[Anbarandy]

It's quite simple really.

Thuggy Fraud was able to hand out $3.2billion in a bribery scheme for his self-serving, 18-month early, unlegislated for, unnecessary, unneeded and unwanted early election because he needlessly and selfishly added another $3.2billion to an already projected 2024-25 fiscal year budgetary deficit of $3.437 billion.

An extra $3.2 billion of deficit spending using taxpayers as collateral and financed by the downtrodden taxpayers.

Simple.

The Ontario Gov't's own 2024 Fall Statement of its Fiscal Plan and Outlook unequivocally evidences this

 

[Frankfooter]

It's quite simple really.

Thuggy Fraud was able to hand out $3.2billion in a bribery scheme for his self-serving, 18-month early, unlegislated for, unnecessary, unneeded and unwanted early election because he needlessly and selfishly added another $3.2billion to an already projected 2024-25 fiscal year budgetary deficit of $3.437 billion.

An extra $3.2 billion of deficit spending using taxpayers as collateral and financed by the downtrodden taxpayers.

Simple.

The Ontario Gov't's own 2024 Fall Statement of its Fiscal Plan and Outlook unequivocally evidences this

And now he's really got to call an election or he wasted that $3 billion and got nothing.

He's declaring he needs a mandate, except he already has a majority and he keeps his mandates secret. Even suing him won't get them released.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/supreme-court-ford-mandate-letters-secret-1.7101970

 

[Anbarandy]

And now he's really got to call an election or he wasted that $3 billion and got nothing.

No, no, no ..... you're totally wrong according to DesRicardo.

Des' take is that Thuggy's $3.2billion deficit spending, election bribery scheme payola that was plopped atop the already existing $3.437 billion deficit is not deficit spending at all, but newly found money via increased revenue and capital gains changes.

Believe it or not, that's Thuggy and Des' story and their sticking to it!

 

[Anbarandy]

He's declaring he needs a mandate, except he already has a majority and he keeps his mandates secret. Even suing him won't get them released.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/supreme-court-ford-mandate-letters-secret-1.7101970

Yesh, he needs another mandate to keep his existing 18-month mandate a secret.

 

[JohnLarue]

Can somebody please take the keyboard away from this idiot?

He drank the socialist Kool-Aid long ago
a true lifer

or he is a bot programed by a socialist

come to think of it there's not much difference between a bot and a socialist
Neither is capable of independent thought

An AI socialist Bot night be a real problem though
That might produce a half way intelligent response

 

[wigglee]

To note again, the $3 Billion rebate was at no change to the projected budget. So learn the English and do the math.

There is no extra cost.

Best Premier in 35 years. Deal with it.

did the "projected budget" take the 25% tariff into account? If not, it is bullshit and they will need that money to support the half million unemployed. The gov't tax revenues will be less than anticipated. So what does Ford do? He calls an expensive election for no reason other than he wants to get in before the RCMP completes the investigation of his Green Belt corruption scam. Deal with that while your getting no full release at the Ontario Place Spa.

 

[Frankfooter]

He drank the socialist Kool-Aid long ago
a true lifer

or he is a bot programed by a socialist

come to think of it there's not much difference between a bot and a socialist
Neither is capable of independent thought

An AI socialist Bot night be a real problem though
That might produce a half way intelligent response

trump is investing bigly in AI at the same time he's working with the 6 billionaires who own all media to implement censorship.
The bots are all right wing or Russian these days.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1881838809572311077

 

[Frankfooter]

did the "projected budget" take the 25% tariff into account? If not, it is bullshit and they will need that money to support the half million unemployed. The gov't tax revenues will less than than anticipated. So what does Ford do? He calls an expensive election for no reason other than he wants to get in before the RCMP completes the investigation of his Green Belt corruption scam.

Calling an election is easier than having a policy that works with the rest of the country to deal with trump.
That and another 3 months and everyone will be hating right wingers after the nazi saluting gang gets to work.

 

[speakercontrols]

Not only that, they explain the money came from revenue increases from capital gains tax and inflation.

Could be true but for me, it doesn't really matter. If DF ran as a fiscal conservative - which I think he did - he should be putting it towards the debt, reducing the deficit blah blah blah. Ontario is one of the most indebted jurisdictions in North America and it's only a matter of time before that catches up with Ontario. I think Bob Rae was more fiscally responsible.

 

[speakercontrols]

The bots are all right wing or Russian these days.

I see this statement from you as a tad ironic.

 

[Anbarandy]

To note again, the $3 Billion rebate was at no change to the projected budget. So learn the English and do the math.

There is no extra cost.

Best Premier in 35 years. Deal with it.

A desricardo endorsed Thuggy Fraud bald faced lie.

As Thuggy's own 2024 Fall Statement: Fiscal Plan and Outlook clearly evidences:

The year end deficit WAS projected to be $3.437 Billion UNTIL:

Thuggy Fraud self-servingly added on an extra $3.2 billion in deficit spending for his 18-month early election bribery scheme racket. A $3.2 billion deficit spending bribe collateralized on the backs of downtrodden taxpayers and to be financed with interest by these same taxpayers that Thuggy claims that he adores.

All of this in name of a conniving, self-serving populist charlatan.

It is clear that the only interests Thuggy Fraud serves are his own.

 

[DesRicardo]

Could be true but for me, it doesn't really matter. If DF ran as a fiscal conservative - which I think he did - he should be putting it towards the debt, reducing the deficit blah blah blah. Ontario is one of the most indebted jurisdictions in North America and it's only a matter of time before that catches up with Ontario. I think Bob Rae was more fiscally responsible.

You guys don't know what you talking about and are just saying anything.

If you truly believe Bob Rae was more fiscally responsible, You should qualify for being legally mentally disabled.

 

[DesRicardo]

A desricardo endorsed Thuggy Fraud bald faced lie.

As Thuggy's own 2024 Fall Statement: Fiscal Plan and Outlook clearly evidences:

The year end deficit WAS projected to be $3.437 Billion UNTIL:

Thuggy Fraud self-servingly added on an extra $3.2 billion in deficit spending for his 18-month early election bribery scheme racket. A $3.2 billion deficit spending bribe collateralized on the backs of downtrodden taxpayers and to be financed with interest by these same taxpayers that Thuggy claims that he adores.

All of this in name of a conniving, self-serving populist charlatan.

It is clear that the only interests Thuggy Fraud serves are his own.

There is nothing to talk about with you. You can't read or do math.

 

[DesRicardo]

He drank the socialist Kool-Aid long ago
a true lifer

or he is a bot programed by a socialist

come to think of it there's not much difference between a bot and a socialist
Neither is capable of independent thought

An AI socialist Bot night be a real problem though
That might produce a half way intelligent response

These are straight Trudeau tactics they've learned.

This "talking over the truth" approach is the worst thing to ever happened.

It why Trudeau can get away with saying "You get more money back from the carbon tax". They realized as long as you keep saying it, the idiots will go with it.

 

[bver_hunter]

To note again, the $3 Billion rebate was at no change to the projected budget. So learn the English and do the math.

There is no extra cost.

Best Premier in 35 years. Deal with it.

Even this right wing Fraser Institute has stated this about Doug Ford's record as compared to Wynne's record:

Between 2017 and 2023, inflation-adjusted per-person program spending (spending excluding debt costs) has grown from $12,492 to $12,783. And, as one analysis found, had the Ford government simply maintained the Wynne government’s level of per-person spending, it would have accumulated $27.8 billion less debt than currently expected.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/commentary/instead-pumping-brakes-ontario-government-accelerates-spending-and-debt-accumulation

So maybe, and even a big maybe second best Premier to Kathleen Wynne at the very best!!

 

[JohnLarue]

These are straight Trudeau tactics they've learned.

This "talking over the truth" approach is the worst thing to ever happened.

It why Trudeau can get away with saying "You get more money back from the carbon tax". They realized as long as you keep saying it, the idiots will go with it.

so true

Climate Barbie- Do you remember her ?

Catherine McKenna:
'If you actually say it louder, we’ve learned in the House of Commons, if you repeat it, if you say it louder, if that is your talking point, people will totally believe it!'

I bet in 2015 the liberal party hired a team of professional bullshit artists to coach all the MPs in the "talking over the truth" at one of their "retreats"

This version of the Liberal party is so sleazy, slimy and corrupt
They need to be decimated in the next election and rebuilt along their centralist positioning,
Centralist positioning that past generations proudly supported

Gerald Butts is the architect of the liberal nightmare party of Canada
Gerald Butts is also the architect of Dalton the Dummy's and Granny Wynns mess in Ontario

 

[Frankfooter]

You guys don't know what you talking about and are just saying anything.

If you truly believe Bob Rae was more fiscally responsible, You should qualify for being legally mentally disabled.

You don't remember the history, do you?
Rae came into power as a massive recession hit, he chose to give people 4 day work weeks instead of laying off 1/5 of the workforce.
Doug Ford has given us bigger deficits while the economy is doing fine, and under Ford Ontario manufacturing is down and housing starts are dead.

 

[speakercontrols]

You guys don't know what you talking about and are just saying anything.

If you truly believe Bob Rae was more fiscally responsible, You should qualify for being legally mentally disabled.

Rae had a much bigger problem and he tackled it in a direct way. So far WAY more than Ford is. Other than COVID, Ford has had no serious economic problems. He should have taken the opportunity to right the ship but no.

The ONLY upside is that a lot of his spending is on infrastructure.

Too bad too many fucking seniors are going to just tank health care spending and give-aways on LTC.

Just to repeat an excellent link again...

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/commentary/instead-pumping-brakes-ontario-government-accelerates-spending-and-debt-accumulation