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myst1cal

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Thought I'd chime in on this topic, I've tried the whole SA thing for a while and in my opinion it's just not worth it. If you add all the costs of membership, dinners, lunches, gifts, hotels, travel and the $$$ the girl expects it's way cheaper to see multiple good SP's often from one of the agencies. The sex is just not good enough and the price to value ratio is just not there. And frankly most of the women on those sites are just not that hot to command such value.
 

FunInToronto2023

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Thought I'd chime in on this topic, I've tried the whole SA thing for a while and in my opinion it's just not worth it. If you add all the costs of membership, dinners, lunches, gifts, hotels, travel and the $$$ the girl expects it's way cheaper to see multiple good SP's often from one of the agencies. The sex is just not good enough and the price to value ratio is just not there. And frankly most of the women on those sites are just not that hot to command such value.
I’ve had a way different experience than what you’re saying.
 

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Thought I'd chime in on this topic, I've tried the whole SA thing for a while and in my opinion it's just not worth it. If you add all the costs of membership, dinners, lunches, gifts, hotels, travel and the $$$ the girl expects it's way cheaper to see multiple good SP's often from one of the agencies. The sex is just not good enough and the price to value ratio is just not there. And frankly most of the women on those sites are just not that hot to command such value.
Her expectations are not your obligations.

My only obligation is to honour the allowance that we have agreed upon.

Having said that, I've done flowers, jewelry, vacations etc. But that only happens when she has enhanced my existence and makes me feel special. I give extra because I want to and to show my appreciation, not because she thinks she deserves it.

FYI, I have met some beautiful and exceptionally hot women. My latest meet was a Nigerian girl, bordering on BBW with ginourmous tits, was horny as hell and squirted. At the end of the evening she did not ask for any money. I'm seeing her again next Friday. I'm short, old and chubby so a lot depends on your game and not necessarily your wallet.
 

Leimonis

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Thought I'd chime in on this topic, I've tried the whole SA thing for a while and in my opinion it's just not worth it. If you add all the costs of membership, dinners, lunches, gifts, hotels, travel and the $$$ the girl expects it's way cheaper to see multiple good SP's often from one of the agencies. The sex is just not good enough and the price to value ratio is just not there. And frankly most of the women on those sites are just not that hot to command such value.
it's super nice that SPs are available on a very short notice. Especially for married or busy people. But if you have time and treat it as a hobby, the whole SA thing is still the best access to a semi-pro market you can possibly get and it's cheaper per hr and you can pretend you are friends and do activites and stuff. It's not as good as it used to be, but it's still as good as it gets
 
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myst1cal

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I’ve had a way different experience than what you’re saying.
That's because the time when you got into it was probably better. Now it's a shit show with lots of scammers and women who are just not that attractive to me,4-6's and lots of catfishing, fake pictures.
I've been on quite a few dates and slept with a few. It's just not worth it in my opinion.
 
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myst1cal

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it's super nice that SPs are available on a very short notice. Especially for married or busy people. But if you have time and treat it as a hobby, the whole SA thing is still the best access to a semi-pro market you can possibly get and it's cheaper per hr and you can pretend you are friends and do activites and stuff. It's not as good as it used to be, but it's still as good as it gets
No it's not, when you start adding the costs up, it's actually much more expensive.
 

myst1cal

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Her expectations are not your obligations.

My only obligation is to honour the allowance that we have agreed upon.

Having said that, I've done flowers, jewelry, vacations etc. But that only happens when she has enhanced my existence and makes me feel special. I give extra because I want to and to show my appreciation, not because she thinks she deserves it.

FYI, I have met some beautiful and exceptionally hot women. My latest meet was a Nigerian girl, bordering on BBW with ginourmous tits, was horny as hell and squirted. At the end of the evening she did not ask for any money. I'm seeing her again next Friday. I'm short, old and chubby so a lot depends on your game and not necessarily your wallet.
Well I'm not short fat or old and have met quite a few women and most look better in their pictures than in reality. As for game I've been with over 50 women in my civi life not counting sp's or sa.
It's pretty clear we have different tastes, I'm in to fit women not BBW and why we have different opinions.
 
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FunInToronto2023

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That's because the time when you got into it was probably better. Now it's a shit show with lots of scammers and women who are just not that attractive to me,4-6's and lots of catfishing, fake pictures.
I've been on quite a few dates and slept with a few. It's just not worth it in my opinion.
I’m on one of the sites right now and have been having a good time. I would say there has always been a fair amount of catfishing, just like there is with SPs as well.

Not sure how much you’re offering girls but I still find there are really attractive ones that are a great hookup who happen to need a bit of extra help.

And then comparing money isn’t fair because a legit SB isn’t an SP. Often a 22 or 23 yo Uni student that’s beautiful, in wicked shape, great to talk with and can absolutely smash. And we’re better than their previous boyfriends because they’re attracted to us and love hooking up and they’re thinking “Yes he’s older but he’s good looking, has a six pack, treats me better than other guys and I love having sex with him he makes me cum so much - And gives me some money and drinks/dinners/romance!

And then they go back to class each day or to their first job in Toronto that barely supports their living and look forward to seeing you again. We have to be somewhat generous to afford seeing a SB because it’s a two way street.

I think money-wise it’s no different than finding a great SP that charges 500 an hour. Those SPs are going to add up in no time at all. And in between seeing that SP, she’s been with 10-20 other guys that week whereas the SB is likely only seeing you or maybe one other guy.



That's because the time when you got into it was probably better. Now it's a shit show with lots of scammers and women who are just not that attractive to me,4-6's and lots of catfishing, fake pictures.
I've been on quite a few dates and slept with a few. It's just not worth it in my opinion.
 
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FunInToronto2023

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Her expectations are not your obligations.

My only obligation is to honour the allowance that we have agreed upon.

Having said that, I've done flowers, jewelry, vacations etc. But that only happens when she has enhanced my existence and makes me feel special. I give extra because I want to and to show my appreciation, not because she thinks she deserves it.

FYI, I have met some beautiful and exceptionally hot women. My latest meet was a Nigerian girl, bordering on BBW with ginourmous tits, was horny as hell and squirted. At the end of the evening she did not ask for any money. I'm seeing her again next Friday. I'm short, old and chubby so a lot depends on your game and not necessarily your wallet.
💯 THIS!!!
 

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Well I'm not short fat or old and have met quite a few women and most look better in their pictures than in reality. As for game I've been with over 50 women in my civi life not counting sp's or sa.
It's pretty clear we have different tastes, I'm in to fit women not BBW and why we have different opinions.
When I read your posts and then my posts, you are the one that seems unhappy with your results while I'm fairly satisfied. My point was that you don't need to be an Adonis or overpay to have a good time.
It's all about making them feel comfortable around you. Combine that with wit and charm and you'll be shocked at how much mileage you get. I don't have the looks or body but I do well, IMO. But if you don't have the interpersonal skill, you are at a disadvantage. Being good looking works better in bars.

As I said before, I'm into all types of women so I'm sure we overlap. I don't know your age, but if you grew up when there were video games, you spent too much time in front of a screen instead of interacting with other humans.

I have a date with another black girl on Tuesday. She's 20. Her body is smoking, she wears the shortest dresses and loves when I'm dominant with her. She is NOT free of charge, though. LOL. She's $400 but she's slept over every time. Seen he about 8 times since October.

Happy sugaring. Maybe your luck will change.
 

Leimonis

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When I read your posts and then my posts, you are the one that seems unhappy with your results while I'm fairly satisfied. My point was that you don't need to be an Adonis or overpay to have a good time.
It's all about making them feel comfortable around you. Combine that with wit and charm and you'll be shocked at how much mileage you get. I don't have the looks or body but I do well, IMO. But if you don't have the interpersonal skill, you are at a disadvantage. Being good looking works better in bars.

As I said before, I'm into all types of women so I'm sure we overlap. I don't know your age, but if you grew up when there were video games, you spent too much time in front of a screen instead of interacting with other humans.

I have a date with another black girl on Tuesday. She's 20. Her body is smoking, she wears the shortest dresses and loves when I'm dominant with her. She is NOT free of charge, though. LOL. She's $400 but she's slept over every time. Seen he about 8 times since October.

Happy sugaring. Maybe your luck will change.
For every ten big WOC there’s probably one fit white girl on these sites. And there’ll be a ton fakes and SWs of all kinds among fit white girls. So it’s not only luck, it’s math that’s helping those of us who are lucky to have certain standards that are further away from conventional ones
 

shack

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For every ten big WOC there’s probably one fit white girl on these sites.
And a lot of them are pros, want to be treated the way they deserve to be treated, just want to do stuff online.

TBH, some of the ones that don't look the greatest, have a hard time getting laid. They are dying for action and will accommodate you in terms of money and service. I never pay over $400. There's always someone else out there.
 
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And a lot of them are pros, want to be treated the way they deserve to be treated, just want to do stuff online.

TBH, some of the ones that don't look the greatest, have a hard time getting laid. They are dying for action and will accommodate you in terms of money and service. I never pay over $400. There's always someone else out there.
You don’t need to convince me lol if my dick was able to get hard with fattest oldest ugliest women who have hard time getting laid that’s who I would be fucking lol. Unfortunately, they cannot get laid for a reason and the reason is exactly that a lot of us are unable to have fun with those undervalued gems.
 
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shack

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You don’t need to convince me lol if my dick was able to get hard with fattest oldest ugliest women who have hard time getting laid that’s who I would be fucking lol. Unfortunately, they cannot get laid for a reason and the reason is exactly that a lot of us are unable to have fun with those undervalued gems.
Old, I don't think I could do. I'm usually in the 18-25 range. This was was 31. 😲 But I had a feeling she had big, big tits. It turns out they were way bigger than I anticipated. And she squirted a few times.
 
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You can find good ones for under $400 for multiple hours and staying the night. The few I seen 2 or 3 years ago were $100-200 PPM. I hardly did a lot of gifting besides meals and 420.
 
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