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Danielle Smith turns her back on Canada...

bver_hunter

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That is GDP not income. How much do Albertans actually get? How well is it distributed? Albertas child poverty rate is 17% inspite of all that easy wealth. Why? Probably becuase of how people are jerked around on every boom bust cycle.
Also we have to realize that Alberta has failed to invest for the future. They are not capable of refining all the Bitumen Oil that they extract.
No wonder that a nation like Norway that has a similar population as Alberta had savings in 2017 of $1 Trillion. Alberta was a mere $17 Billion!!
One critical reason was this:

“Norway realized revenues of $87.69 per barrel in 2013. Alaska managed $38.54. And Alberta? Just $4.38 — one-twentieth what our Norwegian cousins managed to rake in,” Anderson wrote.

Not surprising that just giving away large proportions of their revenues in tax cuts mainly to the elitists in the end just does not trigger the economy, especially in dire times!!
 

oil&gas

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Canada needs its own industries, needs to militarize, and become more dynamic and self reliant.
Not to mention expand trade relations with other parts of the world.
It is like we put all our eggs in one basket and we are now scrambling because we never thought this could ever happen.
As far as Albertan oil exports go putting (almost) all eggs in one basket is
not as serious a problem if that basket is Canada. Had we built the infrasctures
needed to transport oil from western to eastern Canada gasoline gluttons in
Ontario and Quebec could easily absorb a substantial fraction of total oil exports
to the U.S. And if only we had the political will to build the pipelines and LNG ports
required to transport and process Albertan natural gas for energy export to Europe
we could help Europe to alleviate Trump's threat of buying more U.S. LNG to avoid
facing heavy tariff. But Trudeau's response to Scholz's appeal for Canada LNG
exports was to suggest Germany to switch to hydrogen from natural gas.

Now is the time to rethink over-dependence of Canada's energy export
on the U.S.
 

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No wonder that a nation like Norway that has a similar population as Alberta had savings in 2017 of $1 Trillion. Alberta was a mere $17 Billion!!
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Norway's oil business is easier to run and manage. They don't seem to
have their counterpart of Steven Guilbeault to impose zero-emission selectively
on oil sector. Their small population means they can consume all of its energy
output and export the surplus to friendly Europe. They are one of the few nations
in the west that is totally energy independent. In (eastern) Canada we prefer to consume oil imported from Saudi Arabia and Iran in the. That makes us vulnerable
to Trump's tariff threats.
 

bver_hunter

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Norway's oil business is easier to run and manage. They don't seem to
have their counterpart of Steven Guilbeault to impose zero-emission selectively
on oil sector. Their small population means they can consume all of its energy
output and export the surplus to friendly Europe. They are one of the few nations
in the west that is totally energy independent. In (eastern) Canada we prefer to consume oil imported from Saudi Arabia and Iran in the. That makes us vulnerable
to Trump's tariff threats.
Norway was one of the first countries to introduce the Carbon Tax in 2008!!
So I'm not sure where you are going with this "Stevan Guilbeault" BS?
It is on course to be Zero Carbon Emission by 2030. So get your facts right!!
They have around the same population as Alberta. Their Mongstad Refinery has a refined oil surplus of 4 times their consumption!!
Hence they can export to other Nations. The problem in Canada is the lack of refineries and hence we are dependant on exporting the crude oil to the USA and then importing their refined oil!!
Alberta should have invested more heavily in that refinery sector!!
 

JohnLarue

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what an idiot Trudeau is.
he's bragging about taxpayers spending $34 billion dollars on a pipeline that sold for $4.5 B and $4.5 B was too much then
it it had not been for him Canada would have had at least 2 or 3 pipelines at zero cost to the taxpayer
including the energy east pipeline
if energy east had been built, Canada would have energy leverage on Trump and Alberta would play along as they would still have a market for their oil

Trudeau implemented the Gerald Butts plan instead
what an idiot
 
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Norway's oil business is easier to run and manage. They don't seem to
have their counterpart of Steven Guilbeault to impose zero-emission selectively
on oil sector. Their small population means they can consume all of its energy
output and export the surplus to friendly Europe. They are one of the few nations
in the west that is totally energy independent. In (eastern) Canada we prefer to consume oil imported from Saudi Arabia and Iran in the. That makes us vulnerable
to Trump's tariff threats.
actually Canada gets most of its imported oil from the US
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this why an oil embargo wont work
if western Canadian oil is denied to the US, he will just cut off exports to eastern Canada

too bad for Canada Justin Trudeau killed energy east
(eastern) Canada could have had all the oil it needs
what an idiot
 

oil&gas

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Norway was one of the first countries to introduce the Carbon Tax in 2008!!
So I'm not sure where you are going with this "Stevan Guilbeault" BS?
It is on course to be Zero Carbon Emission by 2030. So get your facts right!!
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Which minister of Norway has singled out its oil sector out of other
industries to enforce a 35% emission cap by 2030?

I do admit I don't get all the facts right in that Norway does have its
counterparts to climate hypocrites in Trudeau's administration.
In Canada we have a climate warrior who gave approval to the
climate-destroying mega oil drilling project offshore Newfoundland.
In Norway climate hypocrisy already reared its ugly head by venturing
into the pristine Arctic water from the North Sea drilling for new oil.
 

roddermac

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Separation can be guaranteed not to happen if we vote out
the administration of Trudeau and his Liberals this year.

You too might want to separate from Canada if the government
ordered your business to reduce net emission to zero.
This is tr
LOL. These covid argument are old and misguided. I've crushed them already. How do you respond to a crisis that has never happened?

Alberta should feel lucky Smith wasn't in office at the time. Half the province would have been dead.
You really believe the lockdowns and vaccines saved lives. Sheesh
 

roddermac

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That's not at all what the Liberals did. Alberta is doing well—except in 2021 when the Federal government had to inject 30 billion into Alberta.

Which told us that Alberta needs to diversify!! They need to develop other sector of industry.
Most of Canada's GDP is in it's most populated province that being Ontario. Quebec has double the population of Alberta and is only 4% higher than Alberta's. Alberta has a higher GDP than B.C. which is NDP country. Alberta also has a higher GDP per capita than Ontario. Only NWT and Nunavut have a higher GDP per capita than Alberta.
 

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Stupid B*tch. There is no way around this, you have to work with Canada.

When you are a bigger separatist than Quebec, you need to take a hard look in the mirror.....That's assuming she has a reflection.
She is a dumb cunt, its up to the feds, and they will do what they need to. When a deal is eventually made, she will look like a dumb cunt, which she is.
 

nottyboi

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Most of Canada's GDP is in it's most populated province that being Ontario. Quebec has double the population of Alberta and is only 4% higher than Alberta's. Alberta has a higher GDP than B.C. which is NDP country. Alberta also has a higher GDP per capita than Ontario. Only NWT and Nunavut have a higher GDP per capita than Alberta.
Dude, why is that so shocking, AB is just digging and pumping shit out of the ground and sending it next door to the largest market for that shit, So slap yourself on the back and give yourself a big high 5 for having just a smidgen more sophistication then the Saudi economy. I would say Iran, but thay actually make rockets and shit. 🤣. Maybe as your next trick AB can decomm the wells instead of waiting for the Feds to pay for it while the fumes poison Albertans.
 

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PeePee certainly has the common sense to hide out in his massive taxpayer-financed mansion and say fuck-all to piss off the vast majority of Canadian Tory voters who now hate Trump and also the 25% Tory base like you and Mitch who worship Trump and kiss his ass.

Basically, the longer this Trump bullshit continues, the more painfully PeePee gets fucked in the ass. Moe and Duggo have already sided with the Libs. And Carney's going to jump on the "Canada's not for sale" bandwagon and boost his cred while PeeBoy hides out and becomes more and more irrelevant in his own fucking country and party.
Even Harper is pushing back at Trump. The UCP is in an uproar oven Smith‘s shell games , Poilievre silence and Hatper’s rebuke of Trump.
 
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