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A warning from Bernie Sanders to America

JohnLarue

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If they have they made that much money from the shit show then they benefited from it.
Trudeau was born rich & Gerald butts diverted massive amounts of taxpayers money to environmental NGOs

Have you not being paying any attention to the sdtc scandal?
The liberals have been filling their pockets with taxpayer $

Estate taxes should be there #1 to fund the govt and lower the tax burden on living Canadians, and 2. To ensure wealth stratification remains in check. I would also say that all financial penalties issued by the legal system should be adjusted for high net worth individuals so that the penalty is non-trivial.
No
Rich folks in Canada earned their wealth legally and contributed to the success of the country
Trudeau and Butts did huge damage to our country and lived like kings via the tax burden on living Canadians

you still do not understand you backed a corrupt moron
 

JohnLarue

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Well thats true, but as you can see the govt spending by Trudeau as a % of GDP was not out of line with Harper, except for Covid. And its headed steeply down since.
% of GDP has become the calling card of the so called modern economic theory
it is a flawed measure as
#1. It is a ratio and will increase quickly in a recession as borrowing increase and GDP declines
#2 it does not account for the cost of borrowing money
#3 it ignores inflation
#4 it does not account for the debt of the provinces

it is a bullshit metric which has been used by the loonie left to justify irresponsible spending and borrowing

try this instead
last years federal budget deficit was $62 B
That is $1,500 per Canadian
or $6,000 for a family of 4
the moron borrowed $6K in your families name last year after taking your hard earned tax dollars

And his is over and above what they already extracted for Canadian Families via income tax, sales tax, carbon taxes and a myriad of other taxes they collected
Then there is provincial taxes and municipal taxes
Canada's total debt, or gross debt, was $3,036 billion in 2023. This is made up of the federal government's debt and the debt of provincial, territorial, and local governments (PTLG).
Canada GDP is at a current level of 3.078T,
the real debt to GDP is closer to 100% , which is insanely irresponsible

Canadians are the most taxed nation in the G7
and irresponsible govts have borrowed trillions over and above after squeezing every last dime out of Canadians via taxation

This insanity has to stop
it will crash and the crash will be devastating
 

JohnLarue

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Well thats true, but as you can see the govt spending by Trudeau as a % of GDP was not out of line with Harper, except for Covid. And its headed steeply down since.
you are repulsive

Half of Canadians are $200 or less away from being unable to cover their monthly bills and debt payments, according to MNP Ltd.'s quarterly report on consumer debt.
"Canada is one of the highest of all the Western nations in the world for the debt ratio ... the volume of the debt is catching up to people," he added.
the govts , federal, provincial are loaded up on debt and so is the consumer

and Trudeau has made Canada a terrible place to do business

this is a disaster
and here you are still trying to pretend all is A-OK, with your bullshit debt to GDP ratio
a Trudeau fan boy to the bitter end.

I really detest people who intentionally try to mislead others
go hide in shame
 

nottyboi

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you are repulsive





the govts , federal, provincial are loaded up on debt and so is the consumer

and Trudeau has made Canada a terrible place to do business

this is a disaster
and here you are still trying to pretend all is A-OK, with your bullshit debt to GDP ratio
a Trudeau fan boy to the bitter end.

I really detest people who intentionally try to mislead others
go hide in shame
Oh stop your pant shitting. All the data shows poverty has actually been reduced significantly in the Trudeau years, No matter what you do there are gona be people that live paycheck to paycheck. There are many people that always take on too much debt. My debt is zero. Why? because I don't buy shit I can't afford. Some people have very tight budgets and they still don't try and save money on groceries etc. You are repulsed by the facts that prove you are full of shit. Why is Trudeau responsible for all those conservative provincial govts. All govts are borrowing money to fight a stupid proxy war with Russia. How many billions have we sent? Insolvencies are really not out of historical norms

https://ised-isde.canada.ca/site/of...nd-research/insolvency-statistics-canada-2023
 
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Frankfooter

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Oh stop your pant shitting. All the data shows poverty has actually been reduced significantly in the Trudeau years, No matter what you do there are gona be people that live paycheck to paycheck. There are many people that always take on too much debt. My debt is zero. Why? because I don't buy shit I can't afford. Some people have very tight budgets and they still don't try and save money on groceries etc. You are repulsed by the facts that prove you are full of shit. Why is Trudeau responsible for all those conservative provincial govts. All govts are borrowing money to fight a stupid proxy war with Russia. How many billions have we sent? Insolvencies are really not out of historical norms

https://ised-isde.canada.ca/site/of...nd-research/insolvency-statistics-canada-2023
Most of the homeless in Ontario are there because of provincial policy.
Killing rent protection, killing social services, health care cuts, social assistance cuts....

Not to mention DoFo's only plan for the homeless is to fine them $10,000 for living in tents.
 

Skoob

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Skoob

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The best part is it's going to be MAGA that turns on the oligarchs.
Gotta love those predictions!

btw wasn't it the Dems who received much more money for campaign donations from said oligarchs compared to the Republicans?
 

JohnLarue

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Oh stop your pant shitting. All the data shows poverty has actually been reduced significantly in the Trudeau years, No matter what you do there are gona be people that live paycheck to paycheck. There are many people that always take on too much debt. My debt is zero. Why? because I don't buy shit I can't afford. Some people have very tight budgets and they still don't try and save money on groceries etc. You are repulsed by the facts that prove you are full of shit. Why is Trudeau responsible for all those conservative provincial govts. All govts are borrowing money to fight a stupid proxy war with Russia. How many billions have we sent? Insolvencies are really not out of historical norms

https://ised-isde.canada.ca/site/of...nd-research/insolvency-statistics-canada-2023
this is a disaster
and here you are still trying to pretend all is A-OK, with your bullshit debt to GDP ratio
a Trudeau fan boy to the bitter end.

I really detest people who intentionally try to mislead others
go hide in shame
 
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nottyboi

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Gotta love those predictions!

btw wasn't it the Dems who received much more money for campaign donations from said oligarchs compared to the Republicans?
Both parties are funded by oligarchs, the USA is an Oligarchy.
 

nottyboi

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Actually


Finances of the Nation is an awesome source. Ya, while the interest paid on the debt is extremely annoying (about the same as we spend on Defense), I can't agree with those that Chicken Little that we're doomed. As you've pointed it, it's not all that different from the past. I'd have to re-look at the source to see if it's cumulative or just annual amounts. A LOT of the current debt forecast is the billions and billions that we apparently owe the First Nations. That is another subject.
Why do you object to debt to GDP ratio? Its a standard way of measuring the ability of any entity to service debt. I would say the debt is somewhat high, but we are only a few years after covid, and that crisis is still reverbreating though the global economy. Meanwhile the loony biden admin started a massive war in Europe and is allowing a massive war in the middle east grow and evolve. Its what happens when you allow a demented old man to run the USA.
 
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Skoob

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Both parties are funded by oligarchs, the USA is an Oligarchy.
If that's the case then it's fair to say that less oligarchs support the Republicans than the Democrats.

Which of course raises another question...why?
 

Skoob

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Please. 🙄 When it comes to $, you know you have no idea so don't even pretend that you do. Just keep posting opinions from other people.
Let's look at Wynn's budget and compare to Ford's latest Budget

Per below, in the latest budget,
  • Ford is spending 39.61% of the Budget on Health & Long Term care while Wynn spend 28.57% for a differences of ~39%. That's a massive increase in Health Care as a % of the budget. In a $ Per Capita basis (thanks immigration), it's 23% higher.
  • For Children , Community and Social Services, Ford is 9.29% and Wynn was 8.37% for a difference of ~11%. On a $Per Capita basis (thanks immigration), it's ~1% less. This is a rounding error.
PLEASE, tell me where these cuts you're referring to are coming from since they are similar/higher under Ford than Wynn. Your claims are not backed up by reality and you're just repeating FUD 'cause it gives you a boner. He's wacking education, the environment and natural resources to pay for leeching old people's Health Care (as well as Energy & Infrastructure).

Looking at a Pareto Chart, homelessness is more of a function of Mental Health, Addiction, and cost of housing. Many of the homeless that you see on the street are not welcome in shelters due to their violent behavior and drug issues.

You really need to stop going to your NDP circle jerks. A LOT of tiny penises there.



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You have to remember...people like Frankfooter first decide they just don't like someone for reasons such as how they look or speak or shallow reasons like that.
Then they make up stuff to justify their unwarranted hatred so they don't look like kooks.
 

Frankfooter

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Please. 🙄 When it comes to $, you know you have no idea so don't even pretend that you do. Just keep posting opinions from other people.
Let's look at Wynn's budget and compare to Ford's latest Budget

Per below, in the latest budget,
  • Ford is spending 39.61% of the Budget on Health & Long Term care while Wynn spend 28.57% for a differences of ~39%. That's a massive increase in Health Care as a % of the budget. In a $ Per Capita basis (thanks immigration), it's 23% higher.
  • For Children , Community and Social Services, Ford is 9.29% and Wynn was 8.37% for a difference of ~11%. On a $Per Capita basis (thanks immigration), it's ~1% less. This is a rounding error.
PLEASE, tell me where these cuts you're referring to are coming from since they are similar/higher under Ford than Wynn. Your claims are not backed up by reality and you're just repeating FUD 'cause it gives you a boner. He's wacking education, the environment and natural resources to pay for leeching old people's Health Care (as well as Energy & Infrastructure).

Looking at a Pareto Chart, homelessness is more of a function of Mental Health, Addiction, and cost of housing. Many of the homeless that you see on the street are not welcome in shelters due to their violent behavior and drug issues.

You really need to stop going to your NDP circle jerks. A LOT of tiny penises there.



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1) Ford changed the reporting of the budget
2) Ford's privatization of services means we pay way more for less services, from agency nurses to private surgeries.
3) Ford is cutting $20 billion, which is nearly a quarter of the budget listed there
4) You don't account for inflation

More importantly, ask yourself if ER's are in better shape, if you can get a family doctor or if you think the health care system is better now than under Wynne.

 

Frankfooter

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Why do you object to debt to GDP ratio?
Yes it is a standard method but Cash is King. I prefer to see how much cash it takes to service the debt. This means we're spending $ on interest which is a debatable waste instead of other budget items. Plus, if interest rates change (depending on a lot), this would significantly drive up the Debt to GDP ratio and thus...interest... is more 'interesting' than the ratio.

In Ontario, IIRC, interest on the debt is the 3rd? 4th? highest budget item. It used to be 8th only a short time ago. This is not a good news story.
That means your entire rationale of how well you think governments are doing is out of their control and subject to global interest rates.
 

JohnLarue

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Not true. Not even close. You really need to do your research before you develop your opinions. How about giving a reference for your Chicken Little stuff.

OECD Tax Rates by Country 2024
Assuming you're referring to Personal Taxation, at 100% of the countries average wage, the breakdown is as follows;
United States - 30.5%
United Kingdom - 31.5%
Germany - 44.4%
France - 40.7%
Italy 40.1%
Japan 31.2%
Canada - 30%
try including sales tax, carbon tax, property taxes, hidden tax (ie clean fuel standards) etc. etc. etc.
 

Butler1000

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Gotta love those predictions!

btw wasn't it the Dems who received much more money for campaign donations from said oligarchs compared to the Republicans?
Who said the Dem oligarchs aren't in the same boat? What is coming won't be about partisanship, it will be about economic class.
 

nottyboi

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If that's the case then it's fair to say that less oligarchs support the Republicans than the Democrats.

Which of course raises another question...why?
I don't see data that supports that. Both sides have tech and old economy oligarchs.
 
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