Cyclist, walkers seriously hurt in crash along U of T

[Anbarandy]

First of all, I'm not blaming the victim. This was a really unfortunate death that could've been prevented in two ways. Firstly, the bin shouldn't have been in the bike lane. Secondly, the cyclist should've looked before she tried to ride around the bin and into a live lane of traffic. But the bin was blocking the bike lane. So in that case, it only makes sense to use extreme caution. I know if it was me, I would've slowed down, done a shoulder check and stopped if necessary, to make sure there were no vehicles coming before I merged into a live lane of traffic.

I cycle between 1,500 and 2,000 kms a year in Toronto. I've lost count of how many times I've been riding when I come upon a vehicle blocking the bike lane, forcing me to ride onto the roadway to go around them. I'd never for a second blindly pull out into a live lane of traffic without first making sure it was safe to do so. It's common sense or situational awareness. Whatever you want to call it.

Perhaps the woman wasn't an experienced cyclist. It's really sad she had to lose her life that way. Completely preventable.

You, nor anyone else can factually claim that the deceased female cyclist did not check over her shoulder when she was forced to exit the blocked bike and enter into a road lane. You were not there, the TPS was not there when the killing of this cyclist occurred.

You have no f*cking idea and neither do the cops nor anyone else, if she slowed down, stopped, looked, checked or didn't check when entering the road lane.

It is entirely probable that the truck driver was not paying attention or was distracted when he killed the female cyclist and it is also equally probable that the driver of the dump truck that killed the cyclist gave self-serving statements that would deny responsibility for killing the female cyclist. It is also probable that the truck driver was nonchalantly driving along on open pavement, really not paying much attention at all and just didn't see the cyclist.

She is dead, killed by a driver driving a dump truck, and thus cannot speak for herself and I am so furious that YOU feel that you are such a self-styled pseudo-expert as to blithely cast blame upon a cyclist who was killed by a motorist when YOU really have no frickin clue as to what really happened.

She is dead, killed, yet you are so full of yourself that you supremely and smugly claim that you know exactly what she did/didn't do to cause her own killing at the hands of dump truck driver

You don't know what really happened 'bike lane monitor boy' as you were not there, just as the cops were not there to witness what happened. So all of your, "she did it to herself" bullshit opining of yours is not only just that, pure bullshit, but as has also been noted with your blaming the Bayview extension cyclist for being killed by a pickup truck driver as just more and more evidence that your posts are filled with and are at their core, corrupted with "totally and completely blaming the cycling victims of motorists as the sources and causes of their own deaths."

You keep restating that "You're NOT blaming the victims", but the truth is that is exactly, totally and completely what are you doing.

 

[Adam_hadam]

And you missed this part:

"This was totally, totally unnecessary. This was an unnecessary death that could have been prevented by simply not having a garbage bin illegally in a bike lane,"

So the bike lane was blocked illegally !!!
The bike lane was there to save lives so if it is blocked it defeats it's intended purpose.

Those who spew off more bike lanes means more deaths conveniently neglect these fine details.

Yes, the company that left the bin there got a ticket. $150 if I'm not mistaken.
Before you change lanes check your blind spot.

 

[Adam_hadam]

As I stated before, a remark obtained by the CBC from a TPS member is not a Police Report nor does it make it one if it is reposted in bold, large print on TERB.

Why do you insist on repeatedly embarrassing yourself, I don't get it?

You crack me up.
Its a police report.

 

[Anbarandy]

You crack me up.
Its a police report.

Stop embarrassing yourself, it's pitiful.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

And you missed this part:

"This was totally, totally unnecessary. This was an unnecessary death that could have been prevented by simply not having a garbage bin illegally in a bike lane,"

So the bike lane was blocked illegally !!!
The bike lane was there to save lives so if it is blocked it defeats it's intended purpose.

Those who spew off more bike lanes means more deaths conveniently neglect these fine details

Of course if there had not been a bike lane on a busy street like that to begin with, she would still be alive today

 

[Adam_hadam]

Stop embarrassing yourself, it's pitiful.

Here's a cyclist not respecting a truck. Its pitiful.

 

[GameBoy27]

You, nor anyone else can factually claim that the deceased female cyclist did not check over her shoulder when she was forced to exit the blocked bike and enter into a road lane. You were not there, the TPS was not there when the killing of this cyclist occurred.

You have no f*cking idea and neither do the cops nor anyone else, if she slowed down, stopped, looked, checked or didn't check when entering the road lane.

It is entirely probable that the truck driver was not paying attention or was distracted when he killed the female cyclist and it is also equally probable that the driver of the dump truck that killed the cyclist gave self-serving statements that would deny responsibility for killing the female cyclist. It is also probable that the truck driver was nonchalantly driving along on open pavement, really not paying much attention at all and just didn't see the cyclist.

She is dead, killed by a driver driving a dump truck, and thus cannot speak for herself and I am so furious that YOU feel that you are such a self-styled pseudo-expert as to blithely cast blame upon a cyclist who was killed by a motorist when YOU really have no frickin clue as to what really happened.

She is dead, killed, yet you are so full of yourself that you supremely and smugly claim that you know exactly what she did/didn't do to cause her own killing at the hands of dump truck driver

You don't know what really happened 'bike lane monitor boy' as you were not there, just as the cops were not there to witness what happened. So all of your, "she did it to herself" bullshit opining of yours is not only just that, pure bullshit, but as has also been noted with your blaming the Bayview extension cyclist for being killed by a pickup truck driver as just more and more evidence that your posts are filled with and are at their core, corrupted with "totally and completely blaming the cycling victims of motorists as the sources and causes of their own deaths."

You keep restating that "You're NOT blaming the victims", but the truth is that is exactly, totally and completely what are you doing.

Here's three simple questions for you. Not that I think you'll answer them.

1. When you cross the street at a pedestrian crossover, do you push the button then immediately step off the curb, or do you look both ways to ensure vehicles are going to stop before you cross?

2. When you exit a streetcar, do you blindly step off or do you check to make sure traffic is stopped before you cross the street to the sidewalk?

3. When you're riding in a bike lane and there's something blocking it, a car, truck, emergency vehicle etc. do you blindly ride into a live lane of traffic or do you do a shoulder check and proceed when it's safe to do so?

While you may have the "right-of-way" in all of the above scenarios, you may also find yourself badly injured or dead. But hey, give yourself a pat on the back, you were in the right.

It's called situational awareness. Be aware of your surroundings, especially when you're in the mix with big, heavy moving objects. I've drilled this into my kids heads, because it just may save their life one day.

 

[Anbarandy]

You, nor anyone else can factually claim that the deceased female cyclist did not check over her shoulder when she was forced to exit the blocked bike and enter into a road lane. You were not there, the TPS was not there when the killing of this cyclist occurred.

You have no f*cking idea and neither do the cops nor anyone else, if she slowed down, stopped, looked, checked or didn't check when entering the road lane.

It is entirely probable that the truck driver was not paying attention or was distracted when he killed the female cyclist and it is also equally probable that the driver of the dump truck that killed the cyclist gave self-serving statements that would deny responsibility for killing the female cyclist. It is also probable that the truck driver was nonchalantly driving along on open pavement, really not paying much attention at all and just didn't see the cyclist.

She is dead, killed by a driver driving a dump truck, and thus cannot speak for herself and I am so furious that YOU feel that you are such a self-styled pseudo-expert as to blithely cast blame upon a cyclist who was killed by a motorist when YOU really have no frickin clue as to what really happened.

She is dead, killed, yet you are so full of yourself that you supremely and smugly claim that you know exactly what she did/didn't do to cause her own killing at the hands of dump truck driver

You don't know what really happened 'bike lane monitor boy' as you were not there, just as the cops were not there to witness what happened. So all of your, "she did it to herself" bullshit opining of yours is not only just that, pure bullshit, but as has also been noted with your blaming the Bayview extension cyclist for being killed by a pickup truck driver as just more and more evidence that your posts are filled with and are at their core, corrupted with "totally and completely blaming the cycling victims of motorists as the sources and causes of their own deaths."

You keep restating that "You're NOT blaming the victims", but the truth is that is exactly, totally and completely what are you doing.

Here's three simple questions for you. Not that I think you'll answer them.

1. When you cross the street at a pedestrian crossover, do you push the button then immediately step off the curb, or do you look both ways to ensure vehicles are going to stop before you cross?

2. When you exit a streetcar, do you blindly step off or do you check to make sure traffic is stopped before you cross the street to the sidewalk?

3. When you're riding in a bike lane and there's something blocking it, a car, truck, emergency vehicle etc. do you blindly ride into a live lane of traffic or do you do a shoulder check and proceed when it's safe to do so?

While you may have the "right-of-way" in all of the above scenarios, you may also find yourself badly injured or dead. But hey, give yourself a pat on the back, you were in the right.

It's called situational awareness. Be aware of your surroundings, especially when you're in the mix with big, heavy moving objects. I've drilled this into my kids heads, because it just may save their life one day.

Your line of questioning and continued "bicycle victim blaming" for her killing at the hands of a motor vehicle driver is an irrelevant, but wholly predictable response to my post.

You were NOT there at the time of the killing of the female cyclist by a dump truck driver nor crucially in the moments just preceding her killing by the dump truck driver and neither were the cops. So, you, they or anyone else for that matter CANNOT factually claim in the slightest that the dead female cyclist did not check, shoulder check, look, peer, scan for traffic before entering into the single road lane.

Stop projecting all of your negative biases against cyclists, "BikeLaneMonitorBoy".

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

BikeLaneMonitorBoy

 

[GameBoy27]

Your line of questioning and continued "bicycle victim blaming" for her killing at the hands of a motor vehicle driver is an irrelevant, but wholly predictable response to my post.

You were NOT there at the time of the killing of the female cyclist by a dump truck driver nor crucially in the moments just preceding her killing by the dump truck driver and neither were the cops. So, you, they or anyone else for that matter CANNOT factually claim int slightest that the dead female cyclist did not check, shoulder check, look, peer, scan for traffic before entering into the single road lane.

Stop projecting all of your negative biases against cyclists, "BikeLaneMonitorBoy".

Typical of the drama queen to avoid answering a few simple questions. The questions are directed at you. What would you do in those situations? Why are you so afraid to answer them?

As for the cyclist doing a shoulder check, she either did or she didn't. It's one of the two. The question is, if she did a shoulder check and saw the truck, why didn't she stop. If she didn't do a shoulder check, then that would explain why she didn't see the truck. As for the bin blocking the bike path, I can't imagine it was that hard to see from some distance away.

One more question, should cyclists share some of the responsibility to ensure their safety? Y or N?

 

[superstar_88]

Bike lanes don't cause deaths!!!
Blocked bike lanes cause deaths!!!

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Even the Red Star is starting to question bike lanes on major streets

https://archive.vn/hEa1g

 

[GameBoy27]

Even the Red Star is starting to question bike lanes on major streets

https://archive.vn/hEa1g

Excellent article. It's what I've been saying for years.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Excellent article. It's what I've been saying for years

It's typical of left-wingers.
They mean well, but everything turns to shit when they touch it

 

[shack]

I wonder if Anbarandy will comment on the article.

 

[GameBoy27]

I wonder if Anbarandy will comment on the article.

I can't answer that. But what I do know, is he seems incapable of answering a few simple questions. Granted, they were very difficult, which may explain things.

 

[shack]

I can't answer that. But what I do know, is he seems incapable of answering a few simple questions. Granted, they were very difficult, which may explain things.

I just know that he is very adamant in his stance and usually responds to anything anti-bike lane.

 

[Goodfellow]

Even the Red Star is starting to question bike lanes on major streets

https://archive.vn/hEa1g

Wow! Thanks for posting this eye-opening article by a very well-regarded Star writer. I have been an avid fair-weather cyclist for decades in this city, and had always regarded bike lanes as a good thing. But this article (and witnessing the traffic gridlock these lanes have caused) has certainly changed my mind.

 

[SchlongConery]

Wow! Thanks for posting this eye-opening article by a very well-regarded Star writer. I have been an avid fair-weather cyclist for decades in this city, and had always regarded bike lanes as a good thing. But this article (and witnessing the traffic gridlock these lanes have caused) has certainly changed my mind.

Similar experience and thoughts as mine. Well said.

 

[GameBoy27]

Wow! Thanks for posting this eye-opening article by a very well-regarded Star writer. I have been an avid fair-weather cyclist for decades in this city, and had always regarded bike lanes as a good thing. But this article (and witnessing the traffic gridlock these lanes have caused) has certainly changed my mind.

I have to admit, when I read your post, I thought you were being sarcastic. Without a sarcasm font, sometimes it can be hard to tell. Although, I now believe you were being serious.

It's a well written article and he makes a lot of good points. I don't believe they should eliminate all the bike lanes, but at the same time, I think there should be some balance. He points out that "the Star’s Robert Benzie revealed that a major provincial-municipal survey ultimately showed only 3.1 per cent of Torontonians commute by bike to work." That's a pretty small number when you think of how much taxpayers spend on biking infrastructure.

The "if you build it, they will come" is a nice saying, if it works. But so far, that's not the case in Toronto.