United Healthcare CEO shot and killed in Manhattan
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Except employer paid for most is the only option. Right? Add in deductibles, co pays and they really do nothing. And think about what you just said, it cost businesses more too. For what? An extra layer of bureaucracy? Paying a middleman? Paying inflated costs? Paying shareholders?
Cripes you keep on proving my point. Universal healthcare is cheaper, costs businesses less, and even allows(like mine) to ADD coverage like dental, eyeglass, physio and more. Meanwhile in the USA, only Platinum payers gain decent coverage. The rest have to get approvals, waiting months sometimes, fighting many times for it.
Sounds like "death panels" to me!
It's interesting that this issue seems to be uniting a lot of left-wingers and right-wingers
I think the usual 4% sociopathic rate for CEO's(general population is 1%) is low for this field.
And Right Wingers tend to have more guns! MAHA is a thing now. When you lose the grassroots of both parties it's may just be a matter of time now.
I have repeatedly said over the last 10 years reckoning are coming. That things will have to get worse before they get better. That it's a class war, not a political one. And been called an accelerationist for it.
A stock crash, real estate crash, and bailout, and Occupy Wallstreet will not be so peaceful this time.
If you are not a sociopath I dont think you can work in either pharmaceutical or health insurance.
I have consulted a lot with pharmaceuticals. This example is from 15 years ago. I was shocked.
On one such project with Eli Lilly their marketing team conducts a lot of focus groups with patients taking their drugs.
The patients express side effects - diarrhea, headache etc
You know what the pharma guys do with that info?
You'd think they'd fix those issues so the drugs dont result in such side effects.
They instead change their marketing material, so customers feel better about taking their drugs.
This is coming straight from their consumer insights team by the way. Am not making it up.
They dont even consider patients as their customers.
They consider doctors as their customers and provide them a kickback.
When meeting with their product managers and marketers, they told me that there are drugs they have research on which could cure ailments like breast cancer at much cheaper rates to consumers.
But they dont bring it to market because they cannot compete with another pharma who currently has a patent.
So they shelve it.
No mention of somehow cutting a deal with the other company to share profits in the interests of the consumer.
God knows how much research they are hiding for ailments with currently no viable cure.
The entire thing is fucked up.
I saw a report of a speech given a few years ago by former Governor of the Bank of Canada Mark Carney where he said pretty much the same thing. The audience consisted of the rich and powerful. I don't know if they took him seriously or not.
Deny of care. Appeal refusal generated by AI. All this as no side. They do not ask for who you vote. They fuck both sides
I don't think it is. People need to be better advocates for themselves. If they get the employer paid health insurance make sure you know in advance what it does and does not cover. Have a lawyer look over the policy. If you don't like the insurance provider opt out and negotiate with your company on providing you $ for your healthcare spending account. If your family has a history of cancer or heart disease purchase additional coverage. Save for a rainy day. Don't rely on a government to hand shit out to you.
Don't fool yourself, we don't have universal health coverage in Canada. Every year I have to pay out of pocket for a myriad of healthcare expenses - prescriptions, physiotherapy, massage therapy, chiropractic. Now I have to get an eye test because I likely need to get glasses. None of that is covered by OHIP. And if I don't accumulate at least $2,700 worth of out of pocket medical expenses in a 12 month period, I don't get any tax relief. I have a friend who's an independent real estate agent. She's just been diagnosed with stage 3 lymphoma. And while her chemo and radiation are covered by OHIP, the expensive cancer drugs aren't. We're talking hundreds to thousands of dollars per month. She doesn't have an extended health benefits plan.
All that being said I do think that the healthcare insurance market in the U.S. needs some major reform. It has for years. The costs of everything in healthcare in the U.S. are bordering on insane.
The HMO's are doubling down, they want anyone who uses the slogan, "Deny, Defend, Depose" to be charged with sedition. Mr. Mangione had back problems that he was denied coverage for.
An Italo/Jewish attorney in NYC, this is going to be slugfest.
An Italo/Jewish attorney in NYC, this is going to be slugfest.
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I haven't looked into this much, but because of his back if he wasn't on meds for them anymore then pain will make most people eventually snap and lose their mind. This is a well known fact. And not everyone has a high tolerance of pain to deal with it. End of the day no company or person becomes rich without some sort of exploiting. Rich bitch about the poor and the poor bitch about the rich.
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Former US Army intelligence officer thinks Mangione didnt act alone:
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Investigators reveal why they believe Luigi Mangione didn't act alone
Top crime investigators are convinced the suspected UnitedHealthcare CEO shooter carried out the cold-blooded murderer with the help of an accomplice, DailyMail.com can reveal.
