Trump claims he will overturn the 14th Amendment

[Skoob]

Skoob, no one is "fixing" anything. It's all just playacting. Trump needs attention and "wins" to boost his ego. He rants. Others fawn on him. Life goes on.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-border-security-1.7405372

Canada was going to do it anyway due to Putin's aggression in Eastern Europe.

And no. He can't "fix" the constitution - unless he's willing to go to the trouble of a formal amendment motion - which he doesn't have the numbers for in Congress. So it's just farting around.

He seems to have lit a fire under the Federal Libs and he's not even in office yet...so there's that.

Canada hasn't met it's NATO commitments in decades and you think it's just a coincidence that they're doing something about it now...like 2 years after Russia invaded?

Trudeau's government never banked on Trump getting re-elected. Now they're scrambling with their own necks on the line in a year. It's as simple as that.

That's how effective Trump is if you hadn't noticed.

 

[mandrill]

He seems to have lit a fire under the Federal Libs and he's not even in office yet...so there's that.

Canada hasn't met it's NATO commitments in decades and you think it's just a coincidence that they're doing something about it now...like 2 years after Russia invaded?

Trudeau's government never banked on Trump getting re-elected. Now they're scrambling with their own necks on the line in a year. It's as simple as that.

That's how effective Trump is if you hadn't noticed.

Hey, I've got a course at Trump University you can enroll in. You'll graduate in a month's time with a "Trump Diploma" and make a Million $$$$ as a business entrepreneur.

And how about some Trump vodka as well?!?!?!

And how about that Wall?!?!?!?... Stopped those illegal immigrants dead in their tracks.

Just like Trump will solve the War in Ukraine in a couple of days.

 

[Dutch Oven]

Here you go, buddy.

United States v. Wong Kim Ark - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yes, I was already up to speed on 1898 caselaw. The thing about caselaw is that it develops as changing circumstances demonstrate negative, and probably unanticipated, consequences. Can I take it that you think the 1898 decision contemplated that millions of people (becoming a significant percentage of the population) would intentionally enter the US illegally for the purpose of having a child while illegally present and for the purpose of staying in the US to look after that child?

What do you think the language actually means? As a lawyer, you know that no statutory or constitutional language is ever included for no purpose.

 

[mandrill]

Yes, I was already up to speed on 1898 caselaw. The thing about caselaw is that it develops as changing circumstances demonstrate negative, and probably unanticipated, consequences. Can I take it that you think the 1898 decision contemplated that millions of people (becoming a significant percentage of the population) would intentionally enter the US illegally for the purpose of having a child while illegally present and for the purpose of staying in the US to look after that child?

What do you think the language actually means? As a lawyer, you know that no statutory or constitutional language is ever included for no purpose.

Yeah..... Nobody immigrated to the US in the 1890's..... Gotcha.

The caselaw is pretty conclusive. "Subject to the jurisdiction" refers to diplomatic staff who are not subject to US law or jurisdiction.

 

[Dutch Oven]

Yeah..... Nobody immigrated to the US in the 1890's..... Gotcha.

The caselaw is pretty conclusive. "Subject to the jurisdiction" refers to diplomatic staff who are not subject to US law or jurisdiction.

I think there is a difference between clear and conclusive. The statement about diplomatic staff children is clear, just not comprehensive or conclusive of all other fact situations. And no, I don't think there was a epidemic of anchor babying in the 1890s. There were no government programs to latch onto for free stuff at that time!

And isn't the reason for diplomatic exclusion that citizenship confers both rights AND DUTIES? Wasn't the court recognizing that a foreign diplomat could not be expected to show loyalty to the country of the United States? What about children born in the US who would be also be granted citizenship by blood in the countries in which their parents are citizens? Is it reasonable to assume they would choose loyalty to the US in a conflict with the nation of their parents? I don't think so.

 

[lomotil]

Trump University closed or did it ? He is offering free online courses still , full of mendacity and the MAGAs are his faithful students.
Trump is a patch for the hole in the America psyche, a grifter who has a bunch of suckers as his rightful prey for the next four years, that is if he makes that long.

 

[Leimonis]

The caselaw is pretty conclusive. "

so was roe v wade

 

[PeterParker1000]

This is a stupid amendment. Founding fathers never knew country would get invaded by millions by criminals purely for the political gain of the Democratic party. Most of these people would’ve gotten shot back in the 1800s.

 

[kherg007]

Crime at a 50 year low. Crime rate higher for us citizens v immigrants. Where are the millions of criminals?

 

[Bucktee]

The world is coming to an end.

We've seen this movie before. TDS going strong since 2015.

 

[Bucktee]

Anchor babies weren't a thing when the Constitution was written.

 

[kherg007]

Anchor babies weren't a thing when the Constitution was written.

Although a huge proportion of the population was.

 

[Skoob]

Hey, I've got a course at Trump University you can enroll in. You'll graduate in a month's time with a "Trump Diploma" and make a Million $$$$ as a business entrepreneur.

And how about some Trump vodka as well?!?!?!

And how about that Wall?!?!?!?... Stopped those illegal immigrants dead in their tracks.

Just like Trump will solve the War in Ukraine in a couple of days.

Yup TDS is alive and well despite most of the US voting public disagreeing with you.
You seem bothered.
Is that true?

Are you ignoring the couple points I shared or is the reality of that fact too real for you to handle?

 

[The Oracle]

Although a huge proportion of the population was.

I'm thinking not...

 

[Skoob]

The world is coming to an end.

We've seen this movie before. TDS going strong since 2015.

They're in the "just wait and see" part of their hysteria.

The "he won't be allowed to run for office" phase didn't end well for them.

 

[Bucktee]

Maintaining such a high level of hysteria for a decade can't be healthy for one's mind and body.

 

[mitchell76]

Hey, I've got a course at Trump University you can enroll in. You'll graduate in a month's time with a "Trump Diploma" and make a Million $$$$ as a business entrepreneur.

And how about some Trump vodka as well?!?!?!

And how about that Wall?!?!?!?... Stopped those illegal immigrants dead in their tracks.

Just like Trump will solve the War in Ukraine in a couple of days.

Yes, but you were totally wrong on the Penny verdict......LMAO

 

[mandrill]

This is a stupid amendment. Founding fathers never knew country would get invaded by millions by criminals purely for the political gain of the Democratic party. Most of these people would’ve gotten shot back in the 1800s.

The new immigrants are pretty much the same as the Jews and Italians and Poles who came to the States in the 1890's. Poor desperate people who wanted a fresh start.

You think the folks who started the mafia were squeaky clean????

 

[mandrill]

Yes, but you were totally wrong on the Penny verdict......LMAO

No, I wasn't.

I think Penny "got away with murder" - or at least manslaughter. But he's an attractive, likeable young white guy who probably charmed the jury on the stand and the vic was a crazy, black guy.

I thought it likely the jury would be hung. Sounds like the jury members who wanted to convict gave in faster than the jury members who wanted to acquit in the jury chamber. You don't have to be a genius to predict how that would play out. And even the jury members who wanted to convict probably felt a little sorry for Penny and felt "Whatever!" about letting him go free.

Not the first time that a white man killed a black man in the US and walked out of the courtroom a free man. Not the last.

 

[mandrill]

Yup TDS is alive and well despite most of the US voting public disagreeing with you.
You seem bothered.
Is that true?

Are you ignoring the couple points I shared or is the reality of that fact too real for you to handle?

Which points were those, Skoob?

At a certain point, I just skim your crap and don't bother too much.