Trump claims he will overturn the 14th Amendment

[mandrill]

Trump is a lying, scambag fuck. The next 4 years are going to be a series of big, lying promises for scam shit that Trump cannot possibly deliver. Trump is going to scam and lie and then - a week or 2 later - move on to the next big scam lie. The most recent lie is that he will end birthright citizenship.......

It happens to be constitutionally protected by the 14th Amendment and Trump is - as always - bullshitting.

Welcome to MAGA World, folks! This is your next 4 years!

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/topics/birthright-citizenship

Birthright citizenship is a legal principle under which citizenship is automatically granted to individuals upon birth. There are two forms of birthright citizenship: ancestry-based citizenship and birthplace-based citizenship. Birthplace-based citizenship, which grants citizenship based on place of birth, is formally referred to as jus soli, a Latin term meaning "right of the soil."

In the United States, birthright citizenship is guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution. Specifically, it states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside." This principle was confirmed by the 1898 Supreme Court case United States v. Wong Kim Ark, which clarified that children born in the U.S. to immigrant parents are citizens, regardless of their parents' immigration status.

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Wouldn't be the first crazy ruling by the Supreme Court. 13th ammendment thr next to go ?

 

[squeezer]

Wouldn't be the first crazy ruling by the Supreme Court. 13th ammendment thr next to go ?

Yup, with a biased religion bent Supreme Court, anything is possible now. He also keeps bringing up Canada and now Mexico as becoming 51st and 52nd States of the US. This bag of shit has some crazy plans in his mind.

 

[Leimonis]

Wouldn't be the first crazy ruling by the Supreme Court. 13th ammendment thr next to go ?

Or Supreme Court may say okay they have the right to become citizens when they turn 18 but until then they are not. I think that’s the law in the Netherlands

 

[jalimon]

this Trump idiot lied that the US was the only country on earth giving birthright citizenship. Ass hole there is about 40 countries giving it.

I am always amazed why the interviewer does not correct this prick right on the spot.

 

[richaceg]

I said this before they kicked Biden out of the election...
They better have a back up plan and that'snot Kamala Harris... but no... because the MSM fed you Kamala Harris as this 2nd coming of Jesus Christ, you guys ate it all up...
And now you have to endure 4 years of Donnie...

 

[The Oracle]

''Birth tourism'' might just be a thing of the past...It's always been a big draw for illegal immigrants to come into the country.

Would have many legal challenges if he tries to do an executive order though.

Other choice would be a constitutional amendment.

 

[silentkisser]

''Birth tourism'' might just be a thing of the past...It's always been a big draw for illegal immigrants to come into the country.

Would have many legal challenges if he tries to do an executive order though.

Other choice would be a constitutional amendment.

Considering birthright citizenship is part of the constitution, he cannot use an executive order to override it. I don't think an act of congress could change it, nor the Supreme Court. As @mandrill pointed out, this is something he'll blather about but effectively do nothing. Just like repealing the ACA. He still only has "concepts of a plan," despite him having like seven years to figure something out...

 

[mandrill]

Or Supreme Court may say okay they have the right to become citizens when they turn 18 but until then they are not. I think that’s the law in the Netherlands

They can't.

It's in the Constitution.

This is Trump University and Trump Vodka on a national scale. He will bullshit incessantly about shit he has no intention nor ability to actually do. It's who he is.

 

[Leimonis]

They can't.

It's in the Constitution.

This is Trump University and Trump Vodka on a national scale. He will bullshit incessantly about shit he has no intention nor ability to actually do. It's who he is.

I’m not disputing that he’s full of shit and that his words most of the time mean nothing.
But a whole lot of countries have a whole lot of different laws about this so I wouldn’t be surprised if things change https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli
Supreme Court interpreted it once https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark and so why can’t they revisit it

 

[The Oracle]

Considering birthright citizenship is part of the constitution, he cannot use an executive order to override it. I don't think an act of congress could change it, nor the Supreme Court. As @mandrill pointed out, this is something he'll blather about but effectively do nothing. Just like repealing the ACA. He still only has "concepts of a plan," despite him having like seven years to figure something out...

The legal argument would have to go to the supreme court...Are illegal immigrants subject to the laws of the U.S.

Anyways that's just what I've seen in a video from a lawyer.

Trump is just huffing and puffing here...Step one is getting Mexico to shut down the caravans on their side.

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Yup, with a biased religion bent Supreme Court, anything is possible now. He also keeps bringing up Canada and now Mexico as becoming 51st and 52nd States of the US. This bag of shit has some crazy plans in his mind.

At least the moron offered to buy Greenland. He thinks Canada and Mexico will give it up for free like Milania does in the Lakers dressing room

 

[mandrill]

The legal argument would have to go to the supreme court...Are illegal immigrants subject to the laws of the U.S.

Anyways that's just what I've seen in a video from a lawyer.

Trump is just huffing and puffing here...Step one is getting Mexico to shut down the caravans on their side.

It already has gone to the USSC. In the 1890's. The law is clear.

 

[dirtydaveiii]

It already has gone to the USSC. In the 1890's. The law is clear.

we all thought that it was pretty clear against insurrectionists, frauds and those seeking abortions also.

 

[kherg007]

Takes 3/4ths of the states to overturn or add an amendment.
Under this ruling Trumps dad would be an illegal, as his grandfather was illegal, and thus Trump illegal alien.

 

[Dutch Oven]

Trump is a lying, scambag fuck. The next 4 years are going to be a series of big, lying promises for scam shit that Trump cannot possibly deliver. Trump is going to scam and lie and then - a week or 2 later - move on to the next big scam lie. The most recent lie is that he will end birthright citizenship.......

It happens to be constitutionally protected by the 14th Amendment and Trump is - as always - bullshitting.

Welcome to MAGA World, folks! This is your next 4 years!

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https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/topics/birthright-citizenship

Birthright citizenship is a legal principle under which citizenship is automatically granted to individuals upon birth. There are two forms of birthright citizenship: ancestry-based citizenship and birthplace-based citizenship. Birthplace-based citizenship, which grants citizenship based on place of birth, is formally referred to as jus soli, a Latin term meaning "right of the soil."

In the United States, birthright citizenship is guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution. Specifically, it states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside." This principle was confirmed by the 1898 Supreme Court case United States v. Wong Kim Ark, which clarified that children born in the U.S. to immigrant parents are citizens, regardless of their parents' immigration status.

What's your view of "subject to the jurisdiction thereof"? Isn't that intended to disqualify at least some children born in the US from being deemed citizens?

Here's an interesting discussion:

‘Subject to the Jurisdiction Thereof . . .’

A recent Washington Post story highlights the problems with our current practices regarding citizenship for children born to employees of foreign embassies and other temporary visa-holders.

cis.org

 

[Skoob]

They can't.

It's in the Constitution.

This is Trump University and Trump Vodka on a national scale. He will bullshit incessantly about shit he has no intention nor ability to actually do. It's who he is.

Like putting tariffs on Canada if the border isn't fixed and now Canada is fixing the border?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-border-security-1.7405372

Or getting countries like Canada to live up to their NATO commitments or else the US will pull out...and now Canada is making headway into meeting those commitments?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-on-track-nato-spending-target-1.7392639

Funny how that kind of "bullshit" works isn't it?

 

[Skoob]

Trump's not even in office yet and the TDS'ers are losing their shit.

btw Where's Biden?

 

[mandrill]

Like putting tariffs on Canada if the border isn't fixed and now Canada is fixing the border?

Skoob, no one is "fixing" anything. It's all just playacting. Trump needs attention and "wins" to boost his ego. He rants. Others fawn on him. Life goes on.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-border-security-1.7405372

Or getting countries like Canada to live up to their NATO commitments or else the US will pull out...and now Canada is making headway into meeting those commitments?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-on-track-nato-spending-target-1.7392639

Funny how that kind of "bullshit" works isn't it?

Canada was going to do it anyway due to Putin's aggression in Eastern Europe.

And no. He can't "fix" the constitution - unless he's willing to go to the trouble of a formal amendment motion - which he doesn't have the numbers for in Congress. So it's just farting around.

 

[mandrill]

What's your view of "subject to the jurisdiction thereof"? Isn't that intended to disqualify at least some children born in the US from being deemed citizens?

Here's an interesting discussion:

‘Subject to the Jurisdiction Thereof . . .’

A recent Washington Post story highlights the problems with our current practices regarding citizenship for children born to employees of foreign embassies and other temporary visa-holders.

cis.org

Here you go, buddy.

United States v. Wong Kim Ark - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org