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squeezer

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It's funny when you ask for what Poilievre's plan is to distract away from the reality of Trudeau incompetence.

It's like you're in an abusive relationship but asking if the relationship with someone else would be better, rather than realizing you're being abused.
No, it is that I know Pee Pee is incompetent but you will lick up all his future fuck ups like he's the next coming of Jesus Christ.
 

squeezer

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So now that you have seen clear evidence that Trudeau has ruined the economy and run up the debt, you want to change the subject. So if you're okay with a bad economic plan and excessive spending (clearly the deficits is going to be over $40 billion again), but have some other reasons to support "sock boy", what exactly are you getting to offset those hardships. Most Canadians want to be able to afford groceries and not be burden and saddled by excessive government debt and the associated costs.
You just can't stand he kicked ass for 3 elections in a row! He couldn't have been that bad now could he and being faced with a pandemic, two wars I think he did pretty damn well. Your ilk wants to place everything at his doorstep and at the moment the electorate like in every country are looking for change and the incumbents are facing losses but hey, never let reality slap you upside the head, just keep inhaling the fumes of nonsense, it feels better.
 

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No, it is that I know Pee Pee is incompetent but you will lick up all his future fuck ups like he's the next coming of Jesus Christ.
Please enlighten us as to why you think he's incompetent?

Is it because he's killing Trudeau in the polls?
Is it because Trudeau is slowly adopting Poilievre's policies?
Is it because he makes Trudeau look like a fool?

Or is it that you just don't like him and your view is based on biased hatred?
 

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If he were to pull off a small minority in the next election would you roast your little nuts like chestnuts on a fire? LMAO
Back to the ol' if ifs and buts... I see.

Pity. That's really all you have. Good luck with that.
 

squeezer

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Please enlighten us as to why you think he's incompetent?

Is it because he's killing Trudeau in the polls? A trained seal can be ahead of Trudeau in the polls after 9 years and the hate on for incumbents
Is it because Trudeau is slowly adopting Poilievre's policies? Yeah, ok, sure he is. Is it ok for Doug to bend and turn to please voters yet not for Justin?
Is it because he makes Trudeau look like a fool? I think PEE PEE makes himself look like a fool and the reality is majority of folks do not like PEE PEE the individual but the desire for change is overriding his nasty personality. BTW, why the makeover if you think he's awesome??

Or is it that you just don't like him and your view is based on biased hatred?
Is your view on Justin based on biased hatred?
 

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the general

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You just can't stand he kicked ass for 3 elections in a row! He couldn't have been that bad now could he and being faced with a pandemic, two wars I think he did pretty damn well. Your ilk wants to place everything at his doorstep and at the moment the electorate like in every country are looking for change and the incumbents are facing losses but hey, never let reality slap you upside the head, just keep inhaling the fumes of nonsense, it feels better.
Not sure what you mean by kicked ass, since he lost the popular vote to the conservatives the last two elections and only because he grovelled (which is about the only thing Trudeau is good at) to the NDP did he retain power the last election. That said, you were asked why you support him and couldn't even name anything. Sounds like if you can't name anything, you should be looking for a change, sounds like you vote Liberal because it is in your viens, no matter how bad it gets. Me I am not looking for a change, I always wanted one.
 

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Is your view on Justin based on biased hatred?
Not that I was every a big fan, but what he did to Jody Wilson-Raybould and then to Jane Philpott, two of his strongest female Cabinet members, just because they wouldn't support his desire to cover-up the corruption at SNC Lavalin was the final straw. And many people fell on the sword him, including the head of the privy council and his puppet master, Gerald Butts. Trudeau should have resigned at that time and things have only got worse since they. And the guy that said he would never interfere and respected his women cabinet members. Both proved untrue. So, fiscally and economically irresponsible, unethical, allows others to do his dirty work and you wonder why only a few base members haven't abandoned him. Sounds like you'll stick with him no matter. You can't fix stupid.
 

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The previous federal Conservatives had to deal with a global financial meltdown and still managed to get Canada through it successfully.
Ford had to deal with the pandemic halfway into his first term and then won a second majority in 2022 as the world was crawling out of the pandemic.
Ford inherited world-record setting debt from the Liberals in 2018 after 15 years of their reckless spending and poor fiscal management. He didn't start at zero.

Stop spreading misinformation and conveniently leaving out facts that don't jive with your narrative. You are predictable and everyone knows your tactics.
You are the one spreading all the lies about The Ford Government's fiscal responsibility!! Ford's deficits and debt have far exceeded Wynn's record!!
Now you are making excuses for Ford's debt, but when The Federal Govt came to the aid of all the Provincial Governments yet you are the one that cannot accept this simple fact!!
Ford has gone on to create a bigger and far worse debt for Ontario. In fact even in his first year in office his deficit of $11.5 Billion exceeded the Liberal's intended deficit of $6 Billion!!
Also, if Ford's ridiculous Brampton to Scarborough tunnel undergoes fruition, then goodness knows how he would justify the $80 Billion. He is a an uneducated and clueless Premier!!
Once again Harper inherited a healthy surplus and turned it into debts and deficits over the years. He left office with Canada STILL IN A RECESSION!!
I showed you the actual facts and yet you cannot accept it!!
 

DesRicardo

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You are the one spreading all the lies about The Ford Government's fiscal responsibility!! Ford's deficits and debt have far exceeded Wynn's record!!
Now you are making excuses for Ford's debt, but when The Federal Govt came to the aid of all the Provincial Governments yet you are the one that cannot accept this simple fact!!
Ford has gone on to create a bigger and far worse debt for Ontario. In fact even in his first year in office his deficit of $11.5 Billion exceeded the Liberal's intended deficit of $6 Billion!!
Also, if Ford's ridiculous Brampton to Scarborough tunnel undergoes fruition, then goodness knows how he would justify the $80 Billion. He is a an uneducated and clueless Premier!!
Once again Harper inherited a healthy surplus and turned it into debts and deficits over the years. He left office with Canada STILL IN A RECESSION!!
I showed you the actual facts and yet you cannot accept it!!
Kathleen Wynne's budgets were all lies. She was using crooked accounting to hide the true deficit numbers.
 

squeezer

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What a great leader Trump is going to be! Dumbass twats who voted for this shmuck need to have their heads examined.

Trump refers to 'Governor Justin Trudeau' after prime minister says Canada will respond to tariff threat
 

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You are the one spreading all the lies about The Ford Government's fiscal responsibility!! Ford's deficits and debt have far exceeded Wynn's record!!
Now you are making excuses for Ford's debt, but when The Federal Govt came to the aid of all the Provincial Governments yet you are the one that cannot accept this simple fact!!
Ford has gone on to create a bigger and far worse debt for Ontario. In fact even in his first year in office his deficit of $11.5 Billion exceeded the Liberal's intended deficit of $6 Billion!!
Also, if Ford's ridiculous Brampton to Scarborough tunnel undergoes fruition, then goodness knows how he would justify the $80 Billion. He is a an uneducated and clueless Premier!!
Once again Harper inherited a healthy surplus and turned it into debts and deficits over the years. He left office with Canada STILL IN A RECESSION!!
I showed you the actual facts and yet you cannot accept it!!
You never show facts...you just spew biased hatred...be honest.
In the same breath you accuse me of making excuses, you yourself make excuses. Lol!


The numbers speak for themselves...Trudeau has saddled generations with crippling debt...more than double what it was when Harper left office. Let's hear your excuse for that...

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https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/canada/national-government-debt
 

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bver_hunter

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You never show facts...you just spew biased hatred...be honest.
In the same breath you accuse me of making excuses, you yourself make excuses. Lol!


The numbers speak for themselves...Trudeau has saddled generations with crippling debt...more than double what it was when Harper left office. Let's hear your excuse for that...

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https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/canada/national-government-debt
You just try to pick and choose your usual biased statistics, and not go with the real critical Net Debt to GDP facts.

Canada's Net Debt to GDP Ratio in 2015 was 18.54%.

Presently it is 14.43%. Yes, the lowest among the G7 Nations. Next lowest is Germany at 45.63%.

Like you care:


But Doug Ford's Ontario has a Net Debt to GDP ratio of 38.0%


Hmmmmmm!!
 
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