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Charged but no conviction, eh Geno? Innocent until proven guilty. No conviction.
No. He's talking about the side that HRW declared committed crimes against humanity on Oct. 7 and also ordered that side to immediately return the hostages. I highlighted that side for you.
Hamas-led armed groups committed numerous war crimes and crimes against humanity against civilians during the October 7 assault on southern Israel.
Palestinian fighters committed summary killings, hostage-taking and other war crimes, and the crimes against humanity of murder and wrongful imprisonment.
Governments with influence over the Palestinian armed groups should press for the urgent release of all civilian hostages.
Well I've been accused of being a Zionist for quoting the Ministry of Health for Gaza.
Everything I have said is backed up by new sources like Reuters, Newsweek, AP etc.
Apparently it's not human shields, because even if you count every dead they do as a civilian which they don't, it's only 2% of the population in over a year. Their natural growth rate is about 2%. That isn't demographic suicide.
I've also disproved the "killing of women and children indiscriminately" point. THe evidence is clear that the IDF is doing unheard of efforts to avoid this, and it's Hamas who is nerfing those efforts. Giving evacuation warnings before attacks which Hamas tells their people to ignore., getting the civilian to combatant death rate to new records of low for built up areas. From a normal 9 to 1 to even lower levels than the Americans managed in Iraq
Your mention of the IDF goal of extermination I've proved to be a lie, a hate filled lie done to provoke hatred in favor of a group whose stated aim is... ironically literal genocide.
I've cited all these via main stream news sources, not going to bother again because I know it's pointless.
If you are going to dismiss that as "fake news" then we have nothing more to discuss. Enjoy your Der Stürmer echo chamber.
So your post says nothing about my post, it's just a claim against Israel
SO you admit by your silence that my statement
"1: So one side specifically target civilians with murder rape and hostage taking and you are hero. "
Is true. Otherwise you would address my statement debunking it.
So you admit via your silence [well semi silence, as you quote it without addressing it that you literally support targeting civilians with murder rape and hostage taking.
As we have established beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a fan of murdering rape and hostage taking when it comes to Jews... why should anyone take you seriously when you complain about it happening to other people.
This assumes there is any level of truth to what you say, and considering all the things you have said that have been repeatedly debunked and according to Lancet you keep making the same claim, I think doubt is a suitable response.
Oh, when I in a moment of weakness do turn on show ignored content. I just skim past all those twitter posts and other links you share. Much like anti vaccer "evidence" I've seen too much to know it's not worth looking at.
What's next, Paul Bernardo complaining that he was assigned the booty warrior as a cell mate.
I tried to fact check it. The closest I could get is numbers working on the assumption that the birth rate hasn't declined during hostilities which is a bit assumption. Pretty sure there hasn't been a recent census and even if there has [more important things to do] if it isn't a yearly census it wouldn't really show the results.
Counting civilian dead and Hamas dead IIRC the natural increase in population before the war would exceed the death rate of current events.
Still shows that the whole, genocide claim is over blown [plus a lot of other evidence]
But I would hesitate using that claim because I cant' verify it... You don't want to go down the path of say quoting Lancet over things they never actually said, do you.
You have to be a bit twisted to say that counting the dead is 'silly'.
But then again....
Israeli snipers ‘shoot Palestinians for sport’
Eyewitness accounts reveal Israeli snipers are systematically targeting unarmed civilians, including children, using tactics that point to deliberate genocidal intent and a chilling policy of terror designed to annihilate a people, not just wage war.
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HRW has declared both sides committed war crimes, Shazi.
In fact, as you well know, they're reported that Israel has committed way more war crimes, along with apartheid and decades of attacks.
According to your terms, you just said they were talking about Israel.
Since you're talking about HRW and that accusations levelled by them should be taken seriously here you go.
The claim comes from CIA's standard population projections for Gaza while also totally discounting any effects of a year of genocidal attacks.
Your claims that the numbers from the Gaza Health Ministry are correct ignore the 20,000 missing children and 50 days of no aid allowed in along with no reporting or health care in north Gaza.
1.3 million of the people in Gaza are children.
Nice monologue, but a total failure of logic.
You said
Currently the only legit accusations of rape are on Israelis, who are also holding 8,000 Palestinian hostages.
The ICC and ICJ charges are about specifically targeting civilians.
Your terms identified that you must be talking about Israel.
looks like they are consistently doing better than canada...if their place is a concentration camp they seem to be breeding well in captivity
Palestine - Population Growth (annual %) - 2024 Data 2025 Forecast 1991-2023 Historical
Population growth (annual %) in Palestine was reported at 2.3933 % in 2023, according to the World Bank collection of development indicators, compiled from officially recognized sources. Palestine - Population growth (annual %) - actual values, historical data, forecasts and projections were...
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related?looks like they are consistently doing better than canada...if their place is a concentration camp they seem to be breeding well in captivity
Palestine - Population Growth (annual %) - 2024 Data 2025 Forecast 1991-2023 Historical
Population growth (annual %) in Palestine was reported at 2.3933 % in 2023, according to the World Bank collection of development indicators, compiled from officially recognized sources. Palestine - Population growth (annual %) - actual values, historical data, forecasts and projections were...
In 2003, Benjamin Netanyahu opined that if the percentage of Arab citizens of Israel rises above its current level of about 20 percent, Israel would not be able to retain a Jewish demographic majority, the basis of Israel's self-definition as a "Jewish democratic state". Netanyahu's comments were criticized as racist by Arab Knesset members and the Association for Civil Rights in Israel.[18][19] In May 2009, Michael Oren wrote an article in Commentary in which he discussed the "Arab Demographic Threat" as one of "Seven Existential Threats" facing Israel.[20] In 2005, Shimon Peres told US officials that Israel had "lost" land in the Negev "to the Bedouin" and would need to take steps to "relieve" the "demographic threat". In 2010, Netanyahu warned in a government meeting that a Negev "without a Jewish majority" would pose "a palpable threat".[21] In February 2014, then Israeli finance minister Yair Lapid said failure to establish a Palestinian state would leave Israel facing a demographic threat that could undermine its Jewish and democratic nature.[22]
He didn't say that counting the dead was silly. He said the counting you relied on was silly.
There is a huge difference and you know it
I see you are back to lying and misrepresenting other members again.
Sigh. I made a claim. Your response did nothing to address said claim. I pointed out the rhetoical implications
Again nothing you said actually addressed what I said.
As for your other claim. You just can't stop telling lies can you
Questions and Answers: The Hamas-Led Armed Groups' October 7, 2023 Assault on Israel
Human Rights Watch research found that Palestinian armed groups involved in the assault on Israel on October 7, 2023, committed numerous violations of international humanitarian law – also known as the laws of war – that amount to war crimes.
Reasonable Grounds to Believe Conflict-Related Sexual Violence Occurred in Israel During 7 October Attacks, Senior UN Official Tells Security Council | Meetings Coverage and Press Releases
There are reasonable grounds to believe that conflict-related sexual violence — including rape and gang-rape — occurred across multiple locations of Israel and the Gaza periphery during the attacks on 7 October 2023, a senior United Nations official reported to the Security Council today, as she...
A UN envoy says there are 'reasonable grounds' to believe Hamas committed sexual violence on Oct. 7
The U.N. envoy focusing on sexual violence in conflict says there are “reasonable grounds” to believe Hamas committed rape, “sexualized torture,” and other cruel and inhuman treatment of women during its surprise attack in southern Israel on Oct. 7 that left about 1,200 people dead and some 250 othe
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Israel Gaza: Hamas raped and mutilated women on 7 October, BBC hears
The BBC has seen and heard evidence that Hamas fighters committed horrific sexual violence in Israel.
www.bbc.com
"The BBC has seen and heard evidence of rape, sexual violence and mutilation of women during the 7 October Hamas attacks."
Yeah Yeah I know. Human Rights Watch, The United Nations, AP news, Big Black Cock. All Zionists right, unless of course you quote, or more often misquote them, in which case the UN is the ultimate in truth.
So let us recap
I said something
You didn't actually dispute the claim
I point this flaw
You retort with a claim that I being illogical yet you don't actually assail my position but introduce new information, which if true doesn't make my position illogical based on the original information
However your new claims are lies.
Not a good look. Also I notice you haven't switched gears on your campaign of misinformation and false claims, easily debunked.
Which is NOTHING to do with the demographics of Gaza since Oct 7th or the claim that the numbers are increasing. Utterly nothing.
You could have countered what he said by actually addressing what he said, but for some reason you didn't. I don't know why. Are you a bot? Your persistent use of powerfully debunked information, the utter lack of rhetorical ability screams bot.
The last time I've seen posting this divorced from what is actually said was in the days of
Serdar Argic - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
We are back to you saying you trust the Hamas Ministry of Health but not the Lancet, are we?
Explain why you think 50 days of refusing to allow aid into Gaza, which was already suffering, won't kill people?
Explain why you think a campaign of starvation on a population that is half children is just.
No aid or access as Israel intensifies its ethnic cleansing of the North Gaza governorate, says Oxfam - The AIM Network
Israel is in the late stages of ethnic cleansing of the North Gaza governorate, Oxfam says. For fifty days, Israel has prevented Oxfam, its partners, and other humanitarian agencies from delivering life-saving aid to thousands of starving people in north Gaza. Amitabh Behar, Oxfam Executive...
Everything I posted is accurate and supported by evidence.Sigh. I made a claim. Your response did nothing to address said claim. I pointed out the rhetoical implications
Again nothing you said actually addressed what I said.
As for your other claim. You just can't stop telling lies can you
"cruel and other inhumane treatment; crimes relating to sexual and gender-based violence;"Questions and Answers: The Hamas-Led Armed Groups' October 7, 2023 Assault on Israel
Human Rights Watch research found that Palestinian armed groups involved in the assault on Israel on October 7, 2023, committed numerous violations of international humanitarian law – also known as the laws of war – that amount to war crimes.www.hrw.org
“It was a catalogue of the most extreme and inhumane forms of killing, torture and other horrors,” including sexual violence, she stated. The team also found convincing information that sexual violence was committed against hostages, and has reasonable grounds to believe that such violence may still be ongoing against those in captivity.Reasonable Grounds to Believe Conflict-Related Sexual Violence Occurred in Israel During 7 October Attacks, Senior UN Official Tells Security Council | Meetings Coverage and Press Releases
There are reasonable grounds to believe that conflict-related sexual violence — including rape and gang-rape — occurred across multiple locations of Israel and the Gaza periphery during the attacks on 7 October 2023, a senior United Nations official reported to the Security Council today, as she...press.un.org
The U.N. envoy focusing on sexual violence in conflict said in a new report Monday that there are “reasonable grounds” to believe Hamas committed rape, “sexualized torture,” and other cruel and inhumane treatment of women during its surprise attack in southern Israel on Oct. 7.
A UN envoy says there are 'reasonable grounds' to believe Hamas committed sexual violence on Oct. 7
The U.N. envoy focusing on sexual violence in conflict says there are “reasonable grounds” to believe Hamas committed rape, “sexualized torture,” and other cruel and inhuman treatment of women during its surprise attack in southern Israel on Oct. 7 that left about 1,200 people dead and some 250 othe
Israel Gaza: Hamas raped and mutilated women on 7 October, BBC hears
The BBC has seen and heard evidence that Hamas fighters committed horrific sexual violence in Israel.
"The BBC has seen and heard evidence of rape, sexual violence and mutilation of women during the 7 October Hamas attacks."
Yeah Yeah I know. Human Rights Watch, The United Nations, AP news, Big Black Cock. All Zionists right, unless of course you quote, or more often misquote them, in which case the UN is the ultimate in truth.
So let us recap
I said something
You didn't actually dispute the claim
I point this flaw
You retort with a claim that I being illogical yet you don't actually assail my position but introduce new information, which if true doesn't make my position illogical based on the original information
However your new claims are lies.
Not a good look. Also I notice you haven't switched gears on your campaign of misinformation and false claims, easily debunked.
You went back to the allegations in March but ignored the fact that the UN investigated and found no evidence to back up the claims.
To date there are no names of any Israeli victims, the 'journalists' who made the original allegations were found to be IDF and were fired by the NYT who posted them and the allegations were found to have come from a serial pedophile who ran a rescue operation in Israel.
Your articles are from March, in June the UN posted this.
The NYT story fell apart.
Here is the source of the rape allegations.
I already repeatedly addressed the demographic claims.Which is NOTHING to do with the demographics of Gaza since Oct 7th or the claim that the numbers are increasing. Utterly nothing.
You could have countered what he said by actually addressing what he said, but for some reason you didn't. I don't know why. Are you a bot? Your persistent use of powerfully debunked information, the utter lack of rhetorical ability screams bot.
The last time I've seen posting this divorced from what is actually said was in the days of
I'd figure in 30 years bot technology would have advanced, and there is improvement but it isn't prime time yet.Serdar Argic - Wikipedia
The numbers were posted by the CIA as projections of previous birth rates in Gaza.
They are projections that do not factor 1 year of genocide and not an actual population count.
Why do you keep claiming they are accurate?
It just makes you look foolish.
