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mellowjello

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They will never arrest that scumbag, the U S. will go in with their military, everyone knows that, easy for them to make empty promises.
Stop sending arms, that's the only thing that means anything.
Even if they try that there will be serious consequences.
Israel is scum and they're taking the heat, but this is happening because the U.S. is driving the agenda. This is much more far reaching than just the Palestinians.
 
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Frankfooter

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They will never arrest that scumbag, the U S. will go in with their military, everyone knows that, easy for them to make empty promises.
Stop sending arms, that's the only thing that means anything.
Even if they try that there will be serious consequences.
Israel is scum and they're taking the heat, but this is happening because the U.S. is driving the agenda. This is much more far reaching than just the Palestinians.
I dunno, this level of meltdown by american politicians over what everyone can see has happened is so unprecedented.
The Biden supporters might argue he's senile except this is his one consistent platform.
What this does to the dems party is the big question.

If Trudeau didn't back the ICC everyone would be moving over to the NDP, but in the US all they did was walk away from the election and let rump win.
But will the dem leaders really change?

 

southpaw

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Though you have to wonder what would happen if the 5 million Palestinian refugees declared they all converted to Judaism.....
I don't think the zionists would accept their conversion. My understanding is you must show maternal descent to qualify.
 

shack

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Have you called for an end to the genocide yet, Shazi?
Or are you still here saying anyone who protest genocide is filled with hate?
That's Islamophobic. You are disgusting.

Why do you support killing more civilians in Gaza.
 

shack

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How many angels can you fit on the head of a pin?
This and other important questions brought to you by Zionist shack.
From the Oxford dictionary.

Zionism (noun)
  1. a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel. It was established as a political organization in 1897 under Theodor Herzl, and was later led by Chaim Weizmann.
What point are trying to make by calling me a Zionist?
 

shack

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Have you called for an end to the genocide yet, Shazi?
I've called for a Hamas surrender which stops the killing immediately. You are happy every time a ceasefire negotiation fails so more palis can die. Your calls for a ceasefire are a call for more civilian deaths. They are a sham.
 

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From the Oxford dictionary.

Zionism (noun)
  1. a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel. It was established as a political organization in 1897 under Theodor Herzl, and was later led by Chaim Weizmann.
What point are trying to make by calling me a Zionist?
That you back a movement whose clear goal is wiping Palestine off the maps.

 

Frankfooter

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I've called for a Hamas surrender which stops the killing immediately. You are happy every time a ceasefire negotiation fails so more palis can die. Your calls for a ceasefire are a call for more civilian deaths. They are a sham.
Netanyahu has already declared that he wouldn't stop killing even if Hamas surrendered.
The only way to stop is a ceasefire.

Its time to dismantle the genocidal zionist state, Shazi.
Nazis weren't allowed to rule Germany after WWII and zionists should never rule anywhere ever again.

 

mellowjello

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From the Oxford dictionary.

Zionism (noun)
  1. a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel. It was established as a political organization in 1897 under Theodor Herzl, and was later led by Chaim Weizmann.
What point are trying to make by calling me a Zionist?
Oh, I don't know.....
 
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basketcase

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Its too late for that, basketcase.
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Because Hamas rejected the UNSC ceasefire.

You and Hamas don't care the slightest about the lives of Palestinians, just supporting anything you think harms Israel and the jewish presence.
 

basketcase

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Cam any US taxpayers buy this land? Or is it reserved for a "chosen" few?
Yes, all land in Israel can be bought by anyone, including foreigners and including Arab foreigners. Foreigners may not be able to move there but they can own land. And I notice that there are many countries where land ownership is exclusively determined by religion. For example, most of the Middle East will sell land to American Muslims but not Christians or Jews.



But thanks for making it clear that your posts are fixated specifically about Jews and not isolationist policy like you pretend.
 

southpaw

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But thanks for making it clear that your posts are fixated specifically about Jews and not isolationist policy like you pretend.
Why? I fully support cutting all aid to those middle eastern countries too. No aid for Israel, no aid for Egypt, no aid for Jordan etc. Fuck em all.
 
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mellowjello

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If Trudeau didn't back the ICC everyone would be moving over to the NDP, but in the US all they did was walk away from the election and let rump win.
But will the dem leaders really change?

Dem leaders will never change, the Reps will never change, it's the U.S. and Israel joined at the hip in foreign policy.
Even if the Middle East is the deciding factor for elections moving forward, the two parties will take turns being voted in and out of power,
but foreign policy will not change and Israel is invaluable to the U.S. in reconstituting a new Middle Eastern political landscape.

The only way they stop is if they fail, not because of pressure to appease voters.
 

basketcase

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Why? I fully support cutting all aid to those middle eastern countries too. No aid for Israel, no aid for Egypt, no aid for Jordan etc. Fuck em all.
Yet you saw the need to comment on the 'chosen people' idea.
 

southpaw

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Yet you saw the need to comment on the 'chosen people' idea.
Yes I did. If Israel is a country reserved for a select group of people, the rest of us don't have to fund it, or arm it, or frankly give a shit about it.
 

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