Russian Agent
- Thread starter Insidious Von
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Tulsi Gabbard may be one of the good ones in the Trump team.
And to these neo-con war loving Democrats, anyone who even dares criticize NATO is a "Russian Agent".
Perhaps these are the kind of people that are needed to bring that war to a close, even if it means Ukraine loses land.
We cannot keep sending them weapons worth 100s of billions for what is effectively a perpetual state of war that does not swing in Ukraine's favour.
And to these neo-con war loving Democrats, anyone who even dares criticize NATO is a "Russian Agent".
Perhaps these are the kind of people that are needed to bring that war to a close, even if it means Ukraine loses land.
We cannot keep sending them weapons worth 100s of billions for what is effectively a perpetual state of war that does not swing in Ukraine's favour.
I agree with you Shaq, Ukraine belongs to Putin. Give him Lithuania as well, that will bring "peace in our time".If the USA rolls over on Ukraine, Xi will invade Taiwan.
Guaaaranteed!
It worked very well the first time.
Guaaaranteed!
It worked very well the first time.
If he invades Lithuania we'll see about it then.
This argument that Putin will invade Europe is a strawman anyway.
Lets worry about the problem we are facing now.
We gave Ukraine money for 3 years.
No changes.
Time to stop and try something else.
Like enough aid to drive the Russians out and finish things?
Sending peacekeepers for the Belurus border releasing more Ukraine troops for the front line [I mean if Best Korea can send troops to the front line
I couldn't agree more.
Also the idea of ignoring problems till they happen is literally short sighted and if you can't see a problem with that, just gotta shake my head.
On second thought, you are right. I am going to have a large pizza for breakfast and a large pizza for lunch and a sensible meal for supper and utterly stop moving.
If I stroke out or get a heart attack, I'll worry about it then.
I'm not sure about the washing machines. I don't think they actually have those yet.
The King of Kings - putting Russia first.
According to Shaq's 1000 days theory, Churchill should have surrendered to Hitler in May 1942. At least now Ukraine knows where they stand. They can expect another Holomodor when Russia takes over, those who resist Russification will be sent to Omsk. Tulsi Gabbard will keep Sergei Lavrov informed. She has no other choice, she took Russian money.
According to Shaq's 1000 days theory, Churchill should have surrendered to Hitler in May 1942. At least now Ukraine knows where they stand. They can expect another Holomodor when Russia takes over, those who resist Russification will be sent to Omsk. Tulsi Gabbard will keep Sergei Lavrov informed. She has no other choice, she took Russian money.
But you are operating on a strawman.
Even if you were to take that seriously the best way to avoid that is then to admit everyone into NATO.
But at this point we know that is not going to happen.
Even Ukraine is not joining NATO.
We also know that Ukraine is not going to win.
We also know that we do not have the $$ to buy this win.
Public opinion has also turned in favour of ending the war.
So time to stop and try something else.
Am completely supportive of Trump on this, and working on a diplomatic solution to end this war.
It was always going to be this way.
Only that we expected things to be in favour if Ukraine when we did so.
But the last 3 years have proven different.
That is unfortunate for Ukraine but it is what it is.
By the way what is enough aid for Ukraine?
No aid is enough aid.
This war is unwinnable for them. Russia is too big and too strong.
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Putin begging for NK soldiers and Iranian drones says otherwise but agreed Ukraine cannot win without full Nato support
and not just aid.
Russia is using ICBMs to obliterate Ukrainian cities, Dnipro is only the beginning. Get ready for WW III folks...unless NATO chickens out first.
Hopefully President elect Trump will call for Ukraine's unconditional surrender.
Hopefully President elect Trump will call for Ukraine's unconditional surrender.
Full NATO support is only possible if they were to join NATO.
But the west wont be dragged into putting boots on the ground.
I saw this news yesterday.
But the site they launched it from was a few 100Km away.
So doubt it was ICBMs.
Maybe a Russian lie as usual.
They built half the ISS, wrote the code and built most of systems, yet they still go to the river in winter to wash their clothes lol. RIGHTOOOO.
So it's the best way or no way?
Ukraine isn't going to win, they could have won but they have not been getting the support needed and that we could have given them. From early on I've been disappointed at the level of support, drips and drabs.
They don't have the money... but guess who does.
Public opinion? The people are retarded.
No aid is enough aid? Sure if you are a Neville Chamberlain.
Also what we do in Ukraine will have a big impact on how West Taiwan sees an invasion of Taiwan. We can pay now, or we can pay even more later.
BTW I wasn't doing a strawman argument. I was purposely misunderstanding what you posted for humous intent to mock your position. There is a difference. Don't be a Hans Frankfooter.
I don't think obliterate means what you think it means. Also using an ICBM to launch conventional munitions is just a more expensive way of doing what they have been doing all along.
It's just another attempt by Poutine to intimidate the west into believing that they want to commit suicide. Allows the Poutards to clutch their pearls and whine in unison and keep pushing for their Neville Chamberlain policies.
They built half the ISS, wrote the code and built most of systems, yet they still go to the river in winter to wash their clothes lol. RIGHTOOOO.
Indoor Plumbing Still a Pipe Dream for 20% of Russian Households, Reports Say - The Moscow Times
More than one-fifth of Russian households do not have access to indoor plumbing, according to official statistics obtained by the RBC news website on Tuesday.
www.themoscowtimes.com
Ohhh that's awkward.
A 2012 estimate citing official data placed the number of Russians whose households are only equipped with outhouses at 35 million, or roughly a quarter of the population.
Of the 22.6 percent of households without a centralized sewage system, 16.8 percent use a system of pipes connected to pit toilets, RBC cited the State Statistics Service, Rosstat, as saying. The other 5.8 percent lack a sewage system altogether.
In rural Russia, almost two-thirds have no access to indoor toilets, 48.1 percent of whom use outhouses and 18.4 percent do not have a sewage system.
Will you retract your statement on the basis of new evidence or just make up some more lies and bullshit. Next on Geraldo.
Erm, no. There is absolutely nothing stopping individual members of NATO from sending all sorts of support to Ukraine. The Americans do it all the time to countries around the world. There are no treaty limits to this.
Hell there is nothing to stop say Poland from Attacking Russia full out, they would not be covered by article 5 but they could do it. Even if they are not covered by article 5, nothing to stop any other NATO member from backing Poland up.
The US is protecting Kpop Korea and is kinda sort of in Taiwan's camp maybe. France is always helping out or making things worse in their former Wakanda possessions.
NATO can be doing much much more without boots on the ground. The US has 3000 M1 tanks siting in the desert being maintained taking up funds but doing nothing and plenty of other gear.
For that matter I would have 0 issues with the Belurus border being manned by NATO troops, peacekeepers brah. For that matter, would have no problem with pilots in the air, that would fuck up Russia nicely.
Also the West is trying but they could have tried much harder to expand production of munitions. Compared to what the UK did in WWI it's a complete joke and we have a much much larger industrial base than back then, it isn't even close. Granted those shells were simpler, but simple shells still go boom and kill.
If we really wanted to do some good, we should have done what the British Prime MInister Jim Hacker did in St Georges Island but do it before Poutine attacked.
