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Shocking and couragous speech by Trump

Lenny59

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He's right. There are forces trying to trigger a major global conflict to sabotage his ascendance to the presidency.
 

Anbarandy

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He's right. There are forces trying to trigger a major global conflict to sabotage his ascendance to the presidency.
Yes.

Oh, yes. Oh, yes!

That must, has to, gotta be it!

Such worldwide persecution of and skullduggery aimed directly at the Divine Donny like the world has never seen before since Jesus H.
 

Valcazar

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I was not a fan but this impressed me. The most presidential i have ever seen him appear. https://x.com/i/status/1858617654308991313
Why are we posting up speeches from a year and a half ago?
(This speech has been up as part of his "Agenda 47" for ages.)

Is it just that you became pro-Trump back in 2023 and this is to explain why?
(He "looked presidential" here and you never looked back?)
 

mandrill

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Why are we posting up speeches from a year and a half ago?
(This speech has been up as part of his "Agenda 47" for ages.)

Is it just that you became pro-Trump back in 2023 and this is to explain why?
(He "looked presidential" here and you never looked back?)
The only president that notty truly respects is Presidentsky Putinsky.
 

nottyboi

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Why are we posting up speeches from a year and a half ago?
(This speech has been up as part of his "Agenda 47" for ages.)

Is it just that you became pro-Trump back in 2023 and this is to explain why?
(He "looked presidential" here and you never looked back?)
this speech was posted Nov 18. Still not a fan, but he is less bad then the demented geezer or giggles. ..I hope.
 

lomotil

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trump was a fraud in the 80's. In the 90's. All banks stopped loans to him so he went to Russian bank. Trump is still a complete fraud today. It seems nowadays it's much easier to attract votes by being a fraud than being good. sadly.
Trump is the greatest American conman since PT Barnum and he knows his prey very well.
Trump Nation or is it MAGAstan is now a powerful force with affiliate members right here in Canada, loyal soldiers who realize that they are being replaced and they are absolutely terrified.
 

Valcazar

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this speech was posted Nov 18. Still not a fan, but he is less bad then the demented geezer or giggles. ..I hope.
That speech was posted by that twitter account November 18.

Trump put it up on his website in March last year: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47/agenda47-preventing-world-war-iii

Some people seem to have just noticed that he had this "Agenda 47" site. Saying that Agenda 47 was the real thing, not Project 2025, was a whole thing for a while, but people who said that didn't seem to ever want to go and look what was actually up on the Agenda 47 site.
 
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lomotil

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trump was a fraud in the 80's. In the 90's. All banks stopped loans to him so he went to Russian bank. Trump is still a complete fraud today. It seems nowadays it's much easier to attract votes by being a fraud than being good. sadly.
Russian mafia and oligarchs financed Trump out of some of his bankruptcies with his distressed NYC properties and Casinos when American banks recognized the fraud and would lend no further . This probably explains some of Trump’s affinities for Putin.
Magastan members are too stupid to process this that their dear leader is significantly beholden to Vladimir Putin.
 

nottyboi

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Russian mafia and oligarchs financed Trump out of some of his bankruptcies with his distressed NYC properties and Casinos when American banks recognized the fraud and would lend no further . This probably explains some of Trump’s affinities for Putin.
Magastan members are too stupid to process this that their dear leader is significantly beholden to Vladimir Putin.
Better Putin then BIBI
 

bver_hunter

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Oops Putin what on earth are you doing?

Putin is sending a not-so-friendly message to Trump

Is Vlad dissing the Donald? It sure looks like it.

A few days ago, Russia’s prime-time “60 Minutes” program congratulated Melania Trump on her husband’s electoral victory by displaying on air a handful of nude photographs of the future first lady that had originally appeared in GQ Magazine in 2000.


President-elect Trump may or may not have found the photographs to be offensive, but he was likely miffed by their appearance in Putin’s propaganda media. Make no mistake, it was Putin, and not the program’s obnoxious hosts Yevgeny Popov and Olga Skabeeva, who decided to show the pics. That both were visibly amused only underlined the degree to which the photos were meant to embarrass, not to celebrate.


It gets worse. Not only did Putin show the photos, but he did so before formally congratulating Trump on his victory, while also denying the veracity of the Washington Post’s report that he had spoken with Trump by telephone.

None of this is serendipitous. Putin is obviously sending some kind of message. But what and to whom? Several possibilities come to mind.

It may be that Putin is intimating that he possesses embarrassing “kompromat” on him. Rumors of such compromising materials have been circulating since the first Trump presidency, although they haven’t been substantiated. If it is true, Putin might be warning Trump not to go too far with his peace plans.

It may also be that Putin is playing hard to get, especially when one considers his delayed congratulations and denial of the phone call. In this scenario, which doesn’t contradict the first, Putin may be telling Trump that he doesn’t need him or the U.S. to start negotiations, and that he’ll end the war against Ukraine on his own. In other words, Putin is telling Trump to stay out of his business.

Finally, it’s possible that Putin’s target audience is Russian — both the masses and the elites. Accordingly, Putin is fully in charge, while Trump is the cuckolded husband who can’t behave like a tough Russian, a “muzhik,” and keep his wife under control. Many average Russians will likely giggle along with Skabeeva and wonder how Trump and his crazy Americans can possibly outmaneuver their genius leader. In contrast, Russian elites will get a charge out of Trump’s possible anger, but may see through Putin’s transparent attempt to strengthen his position by making Trump look weak.


Whichever interpretation is correct — and they could all be — the fact of the matter is that Putin really does not have much to crow about. His games with the Trumps are just games, bespeaking weakness and failure.

Do serious leaders really resort to publishing nude photographs of their interlocutors’ spouses? Do serious people really think that such tasteless displays can possibly intimidate their opponents? Can they really not believe that such cheap tricks can only have the effect of making them look ridiculous?

We don’t know how much Putin knows about actual conditions on the front in Ukraine. Does he know that well over 700,000 Russians have been killed or wounded? Does he know that roughly 1,500 soldiers are dying or being wounded every day? His bizarre claim at the recent Valdai conference that Russia has surrounded thousands of Ukrainians in Kursk Province suggests that he’s completely out of touch with reality on the front — or that he’s just lying.


Putin presumably knows that his own officials publicly worry about the unsustainability of his economic policy, but then how can we be sure that he’s not being protected from bad news? Subordinates everywhere always tell autocrats what they want to hear. For all we know, Putin may be living in blissful ignorance.

The important thing is that, whether or not he knows the true state of affairs in Ukraine, Russia and the front, Russia is losing the war, and its hand in any forthcoming negotiations will therefore be weak. Russia’s human losses are unsustainable, unless North Korea’s Kim Jong Un decides to transport his entire army to Russia. Recent Russian territorial gains, bizarrely termed significant or strategic by gullible Western commentators, amount to less than 0.5 percent of Ukraine’s territory.

Putin will bluster and bluff, of course, but he will be in no position to make demands if both the Americans and Ukrainians know how weak his hand is. The Ukrainians know. The question is, does Trump?

 
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